4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

So compare it to the other potential vacancies you mentioned: 

Jets?  Somehow perpetually irrelevant in NY, a hellhole

Jags?  Horrible owner, irrelevant franchise, no

Cowboys? The meddling-est since probably Steinbrenner passed away.  He would have fired a new coach after a year.  Arguable

Texans?  BOB has gutted that team as well, they have a similar situation to the Eagles but not the pedigree or the flashiness of playing in the NFCE.  Arguable

Lions?  Laughable, a perpetual disaster

Chargers?  Promising young QB. Irrelevant franchise with little chance of ever winning in that division.  Probably still an attractive job for a newbie

Bears?  Why?  They have nothing, arguable at best

 

The cap situation is not going to scare a coach who is going to want to blow it up anyway, and its a built-in excuse that would buy time.  I think youre being pessimistic

 

Jets: Trevor Lawrence and a great cap with a trove of draft picks. 

Jags: Good cap, good draft picks and a rookie QB. 

Texans: No draft picks but an elite or close to it QB. 

Bears: Bad job. Agreed. 

Chargers: Good young QB on rookie contract. Those are worth gold. 

Lions: Bad job. 

Cowboys: Dak even with his injury is an attractive QB to work with, and the franchise has prestige despite a bad owner. 

Eagles: ___________________?

Just as Doug has been doing all season

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

Eagles have the most talent of those teams. Theres a lot of OC's/HC's that would lick their chops with Wentz/Miles/Dallas/Reagor + top 10 

They have film of Wentz this year. 

5 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

That would be me... ahhh thank you 

I think it was Joe Banner who said Doug's wouldnt be upset if he got fired. 

Banner didn't say that exactly.  What he said was that Pederson was frustrated and would probably have no problem finding another job where he might have more say over personnel.  

Day after, my opinion hasn't changed. Clean house.

7 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

As for Carson, I worry about the physical toll he is taking on a dead duck season.  If he is the Franchise QB for the future, and I believe he is, then protect him for the future.  The Eagles biggest priority now.

IMO, you let him earn his lumps, he is paid plenty and going through this will earn him credibility and it just may help him develop as a man and leader

Its one thing to get dropped into a perfect scenario and play well, its another to slog through the mud alongside his teammates and come out the other side.  Plus, he already has the "injury prone" label so he needs to get through this and show toughness, hes the only uninjured starter along with Kelce.

Hurts' presence is an unmitigated disaster.  It has been since Day 1.  To me its just a symptom of what is going on in the organization.  The world is starting to realize it now, and its over

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Jets: Trevor Lawrence and a great cap with a trove of draft picks. 

Jags: Good cap, good draft picks and a rookie QB. 

Texans: No draft picks but an elite or close to it QB. 

Bears: Bad job. Agreed. 

Chargers: Good young QB on rookie contract. Those are worth gold. 

Lions: Bad job. 

Cowboys: Dak even with his injury is an attractive QB to work with, and the franchise has prestige despite a bad owner. 

Eagles: ___________________?

The only situation likely better than the Eagles would be the Jets with Trevor Lawrence.

Every other team on that list is a dumpster fire. 

6 hours ago, Br3 said:

Lol oh ok sorry I’m a bit on edge after watching this team play football again

It’s ok buddy. We rooted for you guys in the Super Bowl a couple years ago. We like you all.

7 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I bet they probably have tape of his 11-2 season with Reich too. 

 

Four years ago? Get out of here. 

5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

The only situation likely better than the Eagles would be the Jets with Trevor Lawrence.

Every other team on that list is a dumpster fire. 

We are a dumpster fire too. You have to see that. 

31 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I think you’re optimistic about the situation. This job sucks, and we’d be firing a SB winning HC three years after that win. 

Nothing is exciting about this job other than it’s one of 32 in the world and it comes with a great paycheck. 

 

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Four years ago? Get out of here. 

You imply firing Doug just three years removed from a SB win is a bad look, then you go on to say Wentz hasn't looked good in ages. Those both happened in the same season. Seems like you're trying to have it both ways here.

16 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

How pathetic was that first drive of the game.  They had a 1st and 5 yet went 3 and out in 13 seconds after 3 straight pass attempts.  You knew right then they were losing that game.  Bad coaching, horrible throws from Carson.  Just so much bad all around.  

 

I knew it was over when Alshon was on the field and literally just stood up straight instead of actually running a route and looking for the ball

Just the fact that he is on the field is infuriating.  Then to have multiple plays where he shows very little effort?  Its a total slap in the face

I really do think Doug is intimated by veterans, or something else is going on where he doesn't even have the authority to make decisions on players like that

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

They have film of Wentz this year. 

I think what the Eagles offer is stability and a commitment from the owner to winning.  I mean Lurie can't point to Kelly's, Pederson's and Reid's tenures and say they were each allowed to pick their QB.  If QB is the issue, you will be able to move on from Wentz.  

27 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

It'd be interesting to see how Dougs contract is worded.

Does he get paid if he gets fired but not if he quits?

I can't believe ANY coach could call games so consistantly bad and not have his team prepared.

As far as I know, coaching contracts are guaranteed, but there is usually offset language included also. 
 

Pretty sure guarantees wouldn’t apply though if a coach outright quit. 

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

There was a dramatic drop off in the offense the season after the SB. 

Much love and respect to you guys from Packerland. The Eagles have always given us fits.

9 hours ago, Damanick10 said:

Watch Wentz get traded to the Colts and tear it up. Just add to the depression of this team.

Mark my words he is a franchise qb.  He will be fine, he (like 99% of all qb's) needs a decent Oline, some decent players around him like actual NFL caliber WR's etc, and a decent game plan. 

Thats any qb to be fair. 

I do seriously wonder what gives with our coaching staff?  Have we really missed on all these wr's or is it possible our coaches just suck and cant seem to coach them up at all, nor play to our players strengths?

Probably a bit of all of the above. 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

We are a dumpster fire too. You have to see that. 

For the moment we are but historically the Eagles are (much more) well respected around the league, than most of those teams. 

Most of those teams have been dumpster fires for years (some of them decades)...the Eagles, on the other hand, have been a known, winning organization for the better part of the last 35+ years.  Huge difference.

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

Not this year buddy. 

I don’t think we’re as good as our record. The Bucs whooped us and we lost to the Vikings.

2 minutes ago, MrGreenBay said:

Much love and respect to you guys from Packerland. The Eagles have always given us fits.

We’re giving ourselves fits this year. You guys are good for the W this week. 

Just now, MrGreenBay said:

I don’t think we’re as good as our record. The Bucs whooped us and we lost to the Vikings.

I don’t think we’re as good as our record either, and we’ve only won 3 games. 

Just now, EagleJoe8 said:

We’re giving ourselves fits this year. You guys are good for the W this week. 

Despite you guys owning us in the 2000s with Mcnabb now we kind of love you guys again.

1 minute ago, MrGreenBay said:

I don’t think we’re as good as our record. The Bucs whooped us and we lost to the Vikings.

Maybe but your not as good as your record is still better than whatever the eagles are.☹️

1 minute ago, EagleJoe8 said:

I don’t think we’re as good as our record either, and we’ve only won 3 games. 

I’d rather see you guys win that division over the Giants or Cowgirls.

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

 

You imply firing Doug just three years removed from a SB win is a bad look, then you go on to say Wentz hasn't looked good in ages. Those both happened in the same season. Seems like you're trying to have it both ways here.

It’s a different argument for a few reasons. I’m talking about the optics of firing a SB-winning coach vs the attractiveness of this job. Firing Doug after his first post-SB winning season (which included two playoff appearances) is just one small part of why this job isn’t attractive. The cap, a broken Wentz and a lack of good young players are most concerning.

Wentz playing elite football four years ago is not the draw that people think it is. Yes, he’s been a top-10ish QB over 2018-2019, but not so good that this job is attractive.

Just now, Utebird said:

Maybe but your not as good as your record is still better than whatever the eagles are.☹️

You guys beat us last year on a Thursday night in Philly.