10 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

Tate - What was the plan?

Avery - What was the plan?

the plan was to try to recapture the 2017 magic, which, needless to say, has failed miserably

24 minutes ago, RLC said:

This is one of my favorite plays to show off that it's not on the WRs. 

Why in the heck is Carson fixated on goedert with two guys in him when pre snap no one is covering reagor and post snap both fulgham and reagor are wide open with no one within 5 yards of them.

That pre snap read with reagor uncovered is a little league qb read, to compound the problem Wentz again holds the ball too long.

His internal processer is busted, he should be 1 2 3  step throw not 1 2 3 step hold not step into throw them throw into double coverage with two guys wide open.

People clamouring for Jefferson over reagor, what's jefferson going to do there if Wentz won't throw him the ball when he's uncovered?

This offense is just unbelievably bad and it starts with the coach and the qb. That DB doesn't have his qb prepared to throw to an uncovered WR and that Wentz isn't is inexcusable.

I don't know if lurie watches tape but if he does after I watched this one play after what's gone on the last few weeks I'd fire my head coach.

This stuff is just inexcusable. If Wentz can't make that easy throws on an easier read then something is really wrong.

To be fair, this season would probably look a lot different with a healthy Brooks and Lane, you could survive losing one starter on the OL, but not two pro bowl level linemen.

With those two healthy, Eagles have a top running game, Wentz has a lot more confidence in the pocket, and they can give Mailata help at LT.

Most teams that win the SB have intact OLs for that season. You can cover for one guy (Vaitai) but not 3 or 4.

46 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

The first drive I saw was 2 drops for first downs... 

I thought I recalled a pass in the dirt too.  It was a combination of all issues the Eagles have been facing this year.

6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yeah, true, that Jets offense loaded with so much talent that they're putting up a whopping *checks notes* ...13.8 pts per game.

That’s a pretty dumb response. You’re better than that. 

It's not lost on me that the best the offense looked had John Hightower on the field. He was running deep and loosening up the defense. 

Not throwing deep concepts, one of Wentz's few strengths, is killing this team.

Just now, ManuManu said:

That’s a pretty dumb response. You’re better than that. 

 I guess using logic and facts is dumb now.

35 minutes ago, RLC said:

This is one of my favorite plays to show off that it's not on the WRs. 

That was horrific. Fire Doug!

3 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Why in the heck is Carson fixated on goedert with two guys in him when pre snap no one is covering reagor and post snap both fulgham and reagor are wide open with no one within 5 yards of them.

That pre snap read with reagor uncovered is a little league qb read, to compound the problem Wentz again holds the ball too long.

His internal processer is busted, he should be 1 2 3  step throw not 1 2 3 step hold not step into throw them throw into double coverage with two guys wide open.

People clamouring for Jefferson over reagor, what's jefferson going to do there if Wentz won't throw him the ball when he's uncovered?

This offense is just unbelievably bad and it starts with the coach and the qb. That DB doesn't have his qb prepared to throw to an uncovered WR and that Wentz isn't is inexcusable.

I don't know if lurie watches tape but if he does after I watched this one play after what's gone on the last few weeks I'd fire my head coach.

This stuff is just inexcusable. If Wentz can't make that easy throws on an easier read then something is really wrong.

Probably because he was actually catching the ball 🤷‍♂️

FWIW, outside of the personnel groupings at WR, Kist and Solak thought Doug was good from a playcalling perspective last night. 

5 minutes ago, Br3 said:

Doug is lost as a personnel guy and as a play caller. None of the pass catchers are ever used correctly. 

 even when Alshon was healthy he got little to no jump balls/fades in the redzone. Those were drawn up for Aghlolor. 

Ward Jr gets all the quick plays that should be drawn up for Reagor/Hightower

Now Reagor is getting jump balls were he’s asked to out muscle DBs who are blanketing him. 
 

its painfully obvious pederson is just a block head with a visor on at this point and he’s not even the guy I would fire first smh 

This has been an issue for much of the tenure of doug. Give him a mulligan in 2016 cause the weapons were atrocious and oline had its fair share of suspensions and injuries. 2017 they figured out from start to finish. But 2018-2020 they have consistently play the personnel poorly. You see Jalen reagor getting fade route against a taller corner when that’s not what he does best. Travis fulgham is who does that the best and they don’t even use him that way. Carson Wentz stinks and Roseman has been terrible over last three years. However this team consistently every year does not maximize their personnel to their strength until December. Some reason in December the lightbulb goes off and they start maximizing guys to what they do well. It should not take us three months of football to figure out the personnel we have and what they do well. This year I don’t even know if they get to that point in December because I still don’t think they understand the guys they have on the field and the guys on the field don’t even know what play the running at times. 

12 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Wentz is gonna go somewhere else and light it up.

Tannehill sucked in Miami too.

Yep.  I hate to go all RTK, but it is going to serve us right when that happens.

Where is the emotion on the sideline? Where is someone beating the crap out of the water cooler, or slamming their helmet down? There is ZERO passion from this team!!

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

FWIW, outside of the personnel groupings at WR, Kist and Solak thought Doug was good from a playcalling perspective last night. 

56 called passes to 9 called runs disagrees with Kist and Solak.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

 I guess using logic and facts is dumb now.

What kind of logic is it to talk about the 2020 Jets under Gase and Darnold/Flacco when the Jets will have a new HC and Lawrence?

5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

To be fair, this season would probably look a lot different with a healthy Brooks and Lane, you could survive losing one starter on the OL, but not two pro bowl level linemen.

With those two healthy, Eagles have a top running game, Wentz has a lot more confidence in the pocket, and they can give Mailata help at LT.

Most teams that win the SB have intact OLs for that season. You can cover for one guy (Vaitai) but not 3 or 4.

Would Doug run the ball though? He barely even tried last night and we've actually run well lately

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

That’s a pretty dumb response. You’re better than that. 

I get why people are making fun of the Jets and they’re down on the Jets but I look at the Jets this way, you get Trevor Lawrence in the draft and you have $85-$100 million in cap space to build up that roster it looks much more desirable for a incoming coach. I could have potentially a generational talent at quarterback and I have a bunch of cap space to add talent around him. Also I’m not expected to win in year one so I’m probably going to have high draft picks in year two so I can build up the young talent along with adding veteran talented players to make that team competitive and good for a long stretch. 

12 minutes ago, Br3 said:

Ward Jr gets all the quick plays that should be drawn up for Reagor/Hightower

And Ward gets the slants that should be Alshon and Fulgham.

Ertz is probably coming back next week too. Even less snaps for Hightower/Fulgham/Reagor.

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Would Doug run the ball though? He barely even tried last night and we've actually run well lately

Before last nights game they’ve actually gotten better every single week over the last four weeks at running the ball. Their run blocking over the last four weeks has gotten better than where it was at the time of the ravens game. the passing game has been atrocious over the last four weeks. The passing game has actually gotten worse each consecutive week over the last four weeks. Yet we are trying to pass 55 times with Matt pryor at RT and peters playing his first game ever at RG. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I get why people are making fun of the Jets and they’re down on the Jets but I look at the Jets this way, you get Trevor Lawrence in the draft and you have $85-$100 million in cap space to build up that roster it looks much more desirable for a incoming coach. I could have potentially a generational talent at quarterback and I have a bunch of cap space to add talent around him. Also I’m not expected to win in year one so I’m probably going to have high draft picks in year two so I can build up the young talent along with adding veteran talented players to make that team competitive and good for a long stretch. 

A generational talent on a rookie contract too. The roster is bad and the owner is bad, admittedly, but the cap space and Lawrence would be very enticing to a top HC candidate. 

I know I shouldn’t be surprised at the pushback, but quoting the Jets’ PPG is an asinine argument. 

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Probably because he was actually catching the ball 🤷‍♂️

He didn't catch the ball on that did he?

Nor did he even run the right route on the int later.

Not sure if youre being serious or fecitious but when one has a WR wide open pre snap, even if he's dropped his last ten passes you live that guy up with stickum and fire that pass, no questions asked.

It's a simple gimme read. It's a guaranteed completion and not only did the blow the coverage pre snap and reagor  brings attention to it they also blow the coverage on fulgham as well and both WRs are wide open and Carson doesn't even look to that side of the field even though his pre snap read tells him to and then he under throws a pass into double coverage.

That's losing football in about 11 ways.

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

And Ward gets the slants that should be Alshon and Fulgham.

This is why when I hear solak and kist saying doug had a good night play calling what good is a good play call if you’re running the play to the wrong wide receiver or the wrong player and it fails. Then it’s just a useless play because you’re not maximizing it with the guy who should be running it and who it probably is most affective with

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

This has been an issue for much of the tenure of doug. Give him a mulligan in 2016 cause the weapons were atrocious and oline had its fair share of suspensions and injuries. 2017 they figured out from start to finish. But 2018-2020 they have consistently play the personnel poorly. You see Jalen reagor getting fade route against a taller corner when that’s not what he does best. Travis fulgham is who does that the best and they don’t even use him that way. Carson Wentz stinks and Roseman has been terrible over last three years. However this team consistently every year does not maximize their personnel to their strength until December. Some reason in December the lightbulb goes off and they start maximizing guys to what they do well. It should not take us three months of football to figure out the personnel we have and what they do well. This year I don’t even know if they get to that point in December because I still don’t think they understand the guys they have on the field and the guys on the field don’t even know what play the running at times. 

How many time over the past three years has this team done something that makes you stop and question your sanity hoping that maybe you’re the one that’s missing something and then it always ends up being nope, the Eagles are just fing clueless. Time and time again. You have 79 offensive assistants, nobody knows anything about personnel, Doug’s scheme is designed for Carson to take 7 step drops and wait for guys to get open behind a patch work o-line, and every time something is working, you never see it again for months. 

8 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

What kind of logic is it to talk about the 2020 Jets under Gase and Darnold/Flacco when the Jets will have a new HC and Lawrence?

So the talent on the roster outside of Darnold is completely irrelevant? The WRs, RBs, OL, TEs, I can't talk about their contributions (or lack thereof) to the offensive output on the field every week? Is that what you're saying?