1 minute ago, Br3 said:

How many time over the past three years has this team done something that makes you stop and question your sanity hoping that maybe you’re the one that’s missing something and then it always ends up being nope, the Eagles are just clueless! Time and time again. You have 79 offensive assistants, nobody knows anything about personnel, Doug’s scheme is designed for Carson to take 7 step drops and wait for guys to get open behind a patch work o-line, and every time something is working, you never see it again for months. 

Why can't we run an offense that has guys at every level.  Bad line, 7 step drop, and there is no short outlet most of the time.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

A generational talent on a rookie contract too. The roster is bad and the owner is bad, admittedly, but the cap space and Lawrence would be very enticing to a top HC candidate. 

I know I shouldn’t be surprised at the pushback, but quoting the Jets’ PPG is an asinine argument. 

It is an asinine argument. Especially cause the eagles are averaging 16.5 ppg over the last 4. And the jets are at 16.75ppg. So it’s not as if the Philadelphia Eagles have been better than the New York Jets over the last four weeks on offense. 

The offensive line wasn't perfect last night but let's get serious, either is any other offensive line in the NFL.  A QB needs to make plays when he has time to throw and he needs to "check out" of longer developing plays when he reads a blitz.  How many times did Wentz make a hot read last night?  How much longer are we going to blame the offensive line?

 

 

2 minutes ago, Br3 said:

How many time over the past three years has this team done something that makes you stop and question your sanity hoping that maybe you’re the one that’s missing something and then it always ends up being nope, the Eagles are just fing clueless. Time and time again. You have 79 offensive assistants, nobody knows anything about personnel, Doug’s scheme is designed for Carson to take 7 step drops and wait for guys to get open behind a patch work o-line, and every time something is working, you never see it again for months. 

Even going back to 2017 what the Eagles were doing on third down was not consistently sustainable for success in the NFL. They had over 100 more plays of 3rd down and 7 or longer than the New England Patriots who had the top 5 fewest in the league. The fact that Carson Wentz was so good on third down that year makes you overlook the fact the eagles were in 3rd and 7+ a lot of the time  

This year that trend has continued. The Eagles have had 140 3rd down attempts on the season. They have been in 3rd and 7+ 71 of those 3rd down attempts. That is 51% of their third downs are 3rd and 7+. you want to know why they struggle on third down consistently? that is the reason. Last night they got hot on third down but they were in 3rd and 7+, 8 out of their 12 third down attempts. This shows they are not doing good enough on first and second down a Carson is not playing like 2017 Carson Wentz so he’s not going to save you many games in that situation

 

19 minutes ago, Br3 said:

Doug is lost as a personnel guy and as a play caller. None of the pass catchers are ever used correctly. 

 even when Alshon was healthy he got little to no jump balls/fades in the redzone. Those were drawn up for Aghlolor. 

Ward Jr gets all the quick plays that should be drawn up for Reagor/Hightower

Now Reagor is getting jump balls were he’s asked to out muscle DBs who are blanketing him. 
 

its painfully obvious pederson is just a block head with a visor on at this point and he’s not even the guy I would fire first smh 

Yup.

Reagor wasn't a contested catch guy in college so naturally what does doug do, out him in contested catch situations.

Ward is a slow former qb who can't beat guys after the catch so naturally what does doug do, run a bunch of screens and sweeps to him asking him to beat guys in space.

Fulgham is a good at intermediate and jump ball situations so naturally doug has him running come backs and outs all game.

Hightower a typical deep ball Z receiver who can stretch the field so naturally he's on the bench with Alshon taking snaps.

Reagor a dangerous PR in college so what does doug do, put ward at PR???

Just stupid stupid stuff by doug when it comes to his personnel

6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

So the talent on the roster outside of Darnold is completely irrelevant? The WRs, RBs, OL, TEs, I can't talk about their contributions (or lack thereof) to the offensive output on the field every week? Is that what you're saying?

No, that’s fair game. You didn’t though. You pointed to the PPG as if Gase isn’t the worst offensive coach in the league and has ruined Darnold. 

You can blame everyone, but the key problem all season long has been the OL.

Sure, they run well at times, then someone else gets injured or pass blocks so badly you have to bench him.

And with the problems pass blocking, teams are loading the box, daring the Eagles to pass, knowing Wentz won't have time to complete a deep throw and the receivers are likely to drop passes, putting the Eagles in a hole.

These things compound upon one another, if you can't pass block, teams will load up the box to stop the run, if you can't run successfully, you're in 2nd and 3rd and long, then teams bring blitzes and stunts knowing your line can't handle them.

If you give Peters and Pryor 2 or 3 games to play together, they should be a decent power running tandem (though forget stretch runs to the right), and you can see Seumalo and Mailata struggle at times pass blocking and dealing with stunts b/c they haven't played together. Both talent and continuity are important on the OL, and the Eagles have had neither this season.

Yes, they need better WRs, they need a #2 TE to go with Goedert, they need a #2 RB (Scott is fine as a spot player but no more), but the most important improvement next season will come with a healthy Lane, Dillard and Brooks, Mailata with a season under his belt, and Driscoll, Herbig and Juriga with a full offseason. Pryor will never develop feet and I think Opeta with a disc problem is a lost cause. Still, even if Kelce retires, the Eagles should have a much better OL next season. And that will be a big improvement for this offense.

Problem of course is even if the offense turns it around, Jackson is gone, McLeod and Slay are a year older, as are Graham and Cox. They're going to need an infusion of youth on defense.

Meanwhile, Barnett had the game of his career, so who still thinks he's not a starting NFL DE?

Just now, ManuManu said:

No, that’s fair game. You didn’t though. You pointed to the PPG as if Gase isn’t the worst offensive coach in the league and has ruined Darnold. 

Actually I did. Read my post again. 

5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

The offensive line wasn't perfect last night but let's get serious, either is any other offensive line in the NFL.  A QB needs to make plays when he has time to throw and he needs to "check out" of longer developing plays when he reads a blitz.  How many times did Wentz make a hot read last night?  How much longer are we going to blame the offensive line?

 

 

You’re right mailata played well. The left side of the line played well outside of one or two plays. Now go look at Matt pryor and Jason peters who might have actually been worse than our combo of herbig and Driscoll week 1. That is how bad they were on the right side. Go check their grades out and when you do you’re gonna look at to be like wow they were probably two of the worst starting right guard and right tackle in the NFL in week 12.

It is truly amazing that you only focus on Carson wentz in every single one of your posts. Like Carson played bad but the right side of that line was as bad as Carson Wentz and yet you still have not acknowledged that the entire evening and now into morning. 

Just now, austinfan said:

You can blame everyone, but the key problem all season long has been the OL.

I could not disagree more with this.

The play-calling is bad and the QB is a mess. It's not because of the OL. Wentz got good protection last night...and it didn't matter.

18 minutes ago, downundermike said:

And Ward gets the slants that should be Alshon and Fulgham.

Less Jeffery and more Fulgham please

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

I could not disagree more with this.

The play-calling is bad and the QB is a mess. It's not because of the OL. Wentz got good protection last night...and it didn't matter.

Were we watching the same game last night because the right side of the line of Jason peters and Matt pryor was bad from start to finish. Mailata and seumalo were good outside of one sack where they had a communication issue but the right side of that line was bad all night long. Not just been blocking bad and blitz pick up. And it doesn’t help that Our running backs have regressed to the point of they don’t even see where the blitz is coming from or block. I understand why the Eagles brought in Jordan Howard because they actually know Jordan Howard can pick up a blitz

3 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yup.

Reagor wasn't a contested catch guy in college so naturally what does doug do, out him in contested catch situations.

Ward is a slow former qb who can't beat guys after the catch so naturally what does doug do, run a bunch of screens and sweeps to him asking him to beat guys in space.

Fulgham is a good at intermediate and jump ball situations so naturally doug has him running come backs and outs all game.

Hightower a typical deep ball Z receiver who can stretch the field so naturally he's on the bench with Alshon taking snaps.

Reagor a dangerous PR in college so what does doug do, put ward at PR???

Just stupid stupid stuff by doug when it comes to his personnel

I think Reagor is failing to separate right now.  He has run some deep routes and has completely failed to generate any space, so I think some of those contested catch situations are on him.  He also looked like a deer in headlights as a PR.

I agree that Doug is stupid, but I think, once again, they drafted a WR in rounds 1-2 who wasn't ready.  

At least Reagor possesses physical upside.  They usually draft low upside players who aren't ready and need years of work.  

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Actually I did. Read my post again. 

My bad. The point still stands that Gase has ruined a lot of players or made them to look like busts. They magically play better as soon as they get away from him. 

5 minutes ago, RLC said:

I could not disagree more with this.

The play-calling is bad and the QB is a mess. It's not because of the OL. Wentz got good protection last night...and it didn't matter.

Wentz was sacked how many times? Good protection? Lol

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

You’re right mailata played well. The left side of the line played well outside of one or two plays. Now go look at Matt pryor and jadon peters who might have actually been worse than our combo of herbig and Driscoll week 1. That is how bad they were on the right side. Go check their grades out and when you do you’re gonna look at to be like wow they were probably two of the worst starting right guard and right tackle in the NFL in week 12.

It is truly amazing that you only focus on Carson wentz in every single one of your posts. Like Carson played bad but the right side of that line was as bad as Carson Wentz and yet you still have not acknowledged that the entire evening and now into morning. 

My first sentence literally said, "The offensive line wasn't perfect last night".

And I'll say it for the 100th time and I'll keep saying it, it all starts with the QB, especially when you know pressure could be coming from your right side. (For whatever reason...poor O-Line play, blitz, etc.) It's the QB's responsibility to adjust the offense if he knows pressure is likely coming. 

Anyway, I'll wait until the all-22 comes out but as of now, it's not looking good.

7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

My bad. The point still stands that Gase has ruined a lot of players or made them to look like busts. They magically play better as soon as they get away from him. 

I’m still upset we didn’t give up a pick to bring in Devante Parker when they were trying to sell him off for cheap nonetheless 

If a QB is holding the ball too long, and gets sacked, that's not on the OL.

Major team needs moving forward:

1. GM

2. Offensive coach

3. QB

4. LT

5. WR1

6. RT

7. WR2

8. OG

9. OC

10. WR3

11. CB

12. DE

13. LB

14. S

 

Am I missing anything?

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

I could not disagree more with this.

The play-calling is bad and the QB is a mess. It's not because of the OL. Wentz got good protection last night...and it didn't matter.

Wentz got good protection? What game were you watching? How many of those six sacks were him holding the ball too long? How about his deep throws with defenders literally in his face, his scrambles that kept drives alive because protection broke down. And this was with a game plan that tried a lot of short throws, screens and dump offs (too many dropped) to protect him. And while they should have run more, I didn't see any holes opening up.

Pryor simply can't play RT to save his life. Even with a TE or WR chipping the DE. And Peters looked lost at RG (not surprising, he's smart enough to pick it up).

One problem in the run game all year has been the inability of guards to get to the second level, as Seumalo gets his legs back and Peters gets comfortable at RG, that may change, but they really need Driscoll at RT over Pryor.

6 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yup.

Reagor wasn't a contested catch guy in college so naturally what does doug do, out him in contested catch situations.

Ward is a slow former qb who can't beat guys after the catch so naturally what does doug do, run a bunch of screens and sweeps to him asking him to beat guys in space.

Fulgham is a good at intermediate and jump ball situations so naturally doug has him running come backs and outs all game.

Hightower a typical deep ball Z receiver who can stretch the field so naturally he's on the bench with Alshon taking snaps.

Reagor a dangerous PR in college so what does doug do, put ward at PR???

Just stupid stupid stuff by doug when it comes to his personnel

It’s almost like he’s trying to prove he can put any receiver in any situation and they will thrive because he’s that good a play caller or maybe he doesn’t believe in player skill sets and thinks every player is interchangeable. Whatever the case may be ive seen enough, and hopefully Lurie has too

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

He was on pace for like 150 yards 2 or 3 times this year and we stopped running in the 2nd half. mostly because Doug forgets to run the ball, bot because we're getting blown out

We also havent been able to get ANYONE on a good screen play since 2017. 

I know I say it a ton, but Give Mcvay, Shanahan, Mcdainels, Etc Miles Sanders and I think he's be closer to top 3 then top 10

I think Miles Sanders is a distant second to Fulgham for most overrated player on the roster.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Major team needs moving forward:

1. GM

2. Offensive coach

3. QB

4. LT

5. WR1

6. RT

7. WR2

8. OG

9. OC

10. WR3

11. CB

12. DE

13. LB

14. S

 

Am I missing anything?

 

I think QB is way to high.  I would love to see Wentz with new coaching before I give up on him plus with his contract it is next to impossible. 

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Wentz was sacked how many times? Good protection? Lol

5 sacks came from the right side I believe. Peters and Pryor were horrible