17 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Yeah I’m reserving judgment on Lawrence until I see him in this year’s playoff.  As a freshman he looked great; as a sophomore not so much.  He plays against Walnut Grove Elementary pretty much all season until the last two games of the year 

As did Hurts at Oklahoma

18 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Arthur Smith, please. If we move on from Doug. 

Yikes,  that is pretty damning

Honestly, every day my ire waffles between Howie and Doug.  

I dont think Howie has given Doug the right pieces, and the management-by-consensus approach has turned into a nightmare where Doug has little control.  Howie definitely deserves to go.

Basically, Doug was mostly set up to fail, but he has failed spectacularly.  It sucks, in my heart of hearts I feel like Doug deserves a shot to make his own hires and call his own shots.  But even though he deserves that chance, I don't have faith he'd succeed.   

I was very anti-Duce Staley as OC

But I wouldnt mind seeing Duce in a Mike Tomlin arrangement where he has an OC and DC and his role is to just manage the roster and oversee things

It could get ugly on Sunday. Rodgers at home with his hard-count against this DL...

7 hours ago, wtfcares said:

Nothing at all wrong with the decision going to goedert here for a deep shot. He had his man beat. It’s easy for baldy to point at an batch of grass 50 yards down the field and say that’s where the ball should be. Wentz probably also makes that throw there if he has space to step up which the commentators on tv clearly mentioned. The other view of this play clearly shows Wentz has no room to step into that throw. The right side of the line collapsed immediately in front of him. 
 

But yeah let’s cherry pick one angle of one play that Brian baldinger chose to hate on Wentz and listen to him like sheep. 

I'd normally agree with you here but the bigger problem for me is Carson doesn't even look that direction pre-snap or post snap. It's like he didn't even recognize there was no defender covering Reagor even while he pointed it out. Then to not even look a safety off or at least freeze him first before the throw. And even though he couldn't step into it he had plenty of open area to get that ball out in front of Goedert. Just no excuse for not executing better on that play. 

And it's not the only play that was inexcusable on Carson's part either. He had Ward for an easy completion and first down but he decided to make a harder throw to the other side of the field. Yes it was a still a completion but he's making it harder than it needs to be, he's over thinking and not playing fast.

Morning everyone. One day closer to blowing this thing up. 

27 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

Wow. Good to know he is highly regarded around the league. I don't know what to think now. Did Doug really ruin Wentz? 

 I see that we now are criticizing Wentz for the passes he did complete.

9 minutes ago, AzBirdGang said:

Morning everyone. One day closer to blowing this thing up. 

It's Wednesday. Should've been blown up by now. 

1 hour ago, toughfighter83 said:

nothing is ever wentz's fault is it? no matter how bad he plays, no matter how bad the record is every year, you are always going to find excuses for him, you could care less about this team every winning another sb because it's all about him. in all my years of being a fan, i never seen so much sucking up to qb that plays like bobby hoying and you are ok with that.

20 years ago, you demand players like that to get benched and start someone else and not let the team get worse. it's like this fanbase has just lost their winning mentality and  want to be fans of players no matter what and that's it.

You are just rambling and providing no facts.  Here are some facts.

1.  Goedert said he ran the wrong route.  2.  Doug has called a 25:75 run pass ratio the last three weeks.  3.  Of the 141 passing plays he called, 6 designed roll outs.

I could go on and on, but it is a fact that Carson has not played well, and it is also a fact that he is way down the list of problems on this team.

I was listening to 710 sports out of Seattle on my way home last night, they had regular contributor Michael Bradley on and he and the hosts were doing a post game analysis.  When the radio guys asked Michael Bradley about Wentz, his reply " Carson Wentz is obviously not playing well, but if I was going to talk about the Philadelphia Eagles problems in order, I would need a couple segments before I even got to Carson Wentz "

Then there is this tweet, I will trust what NFL people say over you.

https://twitter.com/ByDavidMurphy/status/1334146294563045376

ESPN article today says NFL execs are "nearly unanimous" that the Eagles should keep Wentz. AFC exec: "I think he would have more success than Goff in that Rams system." NFC exec: "I think he would be a borderline MVP candidate in Indy."

 

4 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

 I see that we now are criticizing Wentz for the passes he did complete.

Just because it's a completion doesn't mean it's the right decision.

8 hours ago, wtfcares said:

Nothing at all wrong with the decision going to goedert here for a deep shot.

Nope.  That's just wrong.  When you are struggling to make 5 yard completions and you have TWO receivers open on your left side, no one covering them and all day to throw from that side, that's the side you go to for an easy 15-20 yard gain (maybe more).

What you don't do is run towards the side of where the pocket is collapsing and throw a bomb 3 yards short that bounces off the defender's helmet.

 

Sad state of affairs, we simply suck at drafting.

 

@In2football

Packers 44

Eagles 19

 

9 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Sad state of affairs, we simply suck at drafting.

 

Equally as disturbing is the fact that our round 4-7 picks aren't developing into quality backups or special teamers. Obvious exceptions are Mailata and Sweat but that isn't enough to replenish the lack of depth at certain positions and help overcome early-round misses.

51 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

Of course they're "keeping Wentz".  He'll be here until (at least) after the 2021 season, they don't have a choice there.  That said, are they willing to gut the entire coaching staff and bring in an entirely new system in order to "take a chance" that Wentz will become the player he was a few years ago?

That's the question.

 

2 minutes ago, Westbrook#36 said:

@In2football

Packers 44

Eagles 19

You guys think we’re as good as our record?

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

 

I made this point earlier in the thread.  There are plenty more examples of QBs having down years. Big Ben and Farve just to name a couple of others. 

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Of course they're "keeping Wentz".  He'll be here until (at least) after the 2021 season, they don't have a choice there.  That said, are they willing to gut the entire coaching staff and bring in an entirely new system in order to "take a chance" that Wentz will become the player he was a few years ago?

That's the question.

What do you think is more likely, Wentz can become 2017 Wentz with new coaches and scheme, or Doug can become 2017 Doug with new assistants ??

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

What do you think is more likely, Wentz can become 2017 Wentz with new coaches and scheme, or Doug can become 2017 Doug with new assistants ??

The former. Of course, one requires the other.

14 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Sad state of affairs, we simply suck at drafting.

 

I just don't see how Howie can survive this.  This is the team he built.  Some of us fans have been saying this for a few years now.  You would think professionals who are paid to analyze and do this stuff for a living could have seen it coming too rather than wait until all ish hits the fan.

8 minutes ago, MrGreenBay said:

You guys think we’re as good as our record?

Anything you read in this thread has just about everything to do with the status of the Eagles and little to do with who they are playing.

6 minutes ago, metal said:

Equally as disturbing is the fact that our round 4-7 picks aren't developing into quality backups or special teamers. Obvious exceptions are Mailata and Sweat but that isn't enough to replenish the lack of depth at certain positions and help overcome early-round misses.

That's a really solid point.  

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

What do you think is more likely, Wentz can become 2017 Wentz with new coaches and scheme, or Doug can become 2017 Doug with new assistants ??

I really don't know at this point, tbh.  There's something seriously going on with Wentz and I'm not convinced it's entirely "systemic".  How do you explain his success in this system from 2017-2019?