14 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Yes - Lurie hired Joe Banner. 

You just made me look that up... well played.

My heart was in my ass for a minute.

There's a good interview with Seth Joyner this morning on Good Morning Football and he is spot on with everything he says. It's on YouTube. 

1 minute ago, hoosierdaddy said:

Same, I'm actually fine with the Hargrave signing and I think he can be a good DT for us for the foreseeable future. And we do need to build a rotation to allow Cox to get some rest during games as he's not getting any younger. I think it's certain we're cutting Malik this offseason and personally, I hope we draft a playable DT within the first three rounds to rotate with Cox/Hargrave/Ridgeway -- and increase his snaps after Ridgeway gets his annual season-ending injury sometime between weeks 2-6.

Ridgeway looked really good before getting hurt again, and he was on the cheap.

I'm not sure why howie hasn't drafted any DTs and just gone with FA or trades.

Jernigan was a trade, ridgeway was a trade then malik and Hargrave big money FA.

Why not draft a DT a to a cheaper price especially when one expects that DT to be in a rotation Instead of paying 3 DTs top money where none are on the field at the same time except goal line?

7 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I didn't mind the Hargrave signing, I thought the malik signing was ridiculous.

I think hargraves PEC injury, tricep bicep whatever it was affected him more than the team is letting on. He's played better lately, I think his contract is fine and he's a good player but looks worse because of malik ridiculous contract at the same position 

I wouldn't mind the Hargrave signing if it were a different year.  I look at it as signing Hargrave means you can't sign Robby Anderson.  Not that he would have come here but once you pay Hargrave, you can't even try to sign Anderson.  I don't remember if Hargrave signed before or after Byron Jones but that money could have gone to CB.  Maybe another O-lineman?  I just think DT was not a position of need when you have glaring holes all over the roster.  Regarding Malik, yea he was on the decline but you already had a ton of money tied up in to him and Fletcher.  Sign a stop gap DT in the meantime which Hargrave essentially is.  I'll put money on it that he doesn't get a 2nd contract here.  

We also knew that the Eagles were against the cap in 2021 with an aging roster.  Bringing in a guy who is almost 28 at a position you've already invested heavily in just doesn't make financial sense.

 

22 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

There's a good interview with Seth Joyner this morning on Good Morning Football and he is spot on with everything he says. It's on YouTube. 

Also this video is kind of what bo wulf was talking about in their podcasts too  also great points by Seth on WRs being jammed at the line and no adjustment 

 

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t know how you’re going to cut a Malik Jackson. If you cut him pre-June 1 it’s a $12.6 million dead money hit. You only save $967k. So if you do it post June 1 it’s 3.6 mil dead money and 10 mil savings. Same with trading him according to over the cap. So the problem is is you need to get cap compliant by the start of the new league gear and really you can’t cut him until June 1 to actually get cap space that you need. Like people praise howie for his contracts but that contract structure along with the DeSean Jackson contract structure were both bad.

Ahh, got it. I'm obviously not clear on the nuances of MJax's contract. I've just had it in my head that we can save good $$ by cutting him this offseason, but didn't realize it was only as a post-June 1 cut. Thanks for clarifying.

The amount of money they have invested in the DT position in a league that doesn't run the football is laughable.  

Just now, hoosierdaddy said:

Ahh, got it. I'm obviously not clear on the nuances of MJax's contract. I've just had it in my head that we can save good $$ by cutting him this offseason, but didn't realize it was only as a post-June 1 cut. Thanks for clarifying.

No problem. Yeah it’s not a good structured contract for the eagles. Basically tied to him next year unless you are willing to walk away after June 1. At that point you’d have already been cap complaint so you are better off either trading him or just keeping him for 2021. 

Just now, eagle45 said:

The amount of money they have invested in the DT position in a league that doesn't run the football is laughable.  

I don’t think their idea was so they could stop the run. It was so they can get pressure up the middle to get quarterbacks off their spot. The problem is you’re in a league now where more and more teams are moving the pocket anyways and getting their quarterback outside of the pocket more to make plays. Add on you’re in a offense driven league so if you were going to spend big bucks then you might as well do it on the offense of side to get your team scoring 28 to 35 points a game because your defense is good against good offenses is likely giving up 23 to 26 points a game. 

4 hours ago, Bacarty2 said:

his mechanics are awful because he's getting told to drop back 60 times while having a practice squad O-Line. 

Oh right his accuracy is bad because of other people? His mechanics are bad because of other people? My god this guy gets so many freaking excuses made for him. I'm bored of it.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

And Levy's call on this play: "and there's the interception!" as if they just knew Wentz would screw up

And now Wentz is a laughingstock

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t think their idea was so they could stop the run. It was so they can get pressure up the middle to get quarterbacks off their spot. The problem is you’re in a league now where more and more teams are moving the pocket anyways and getting their quarterback outside of the pocket more to make plays. Add on you’re in a offense driven league so if you were going to spend big bucks then you might as well do it on the offense of side to get your team scoring 28 to 35 points a game because your defense is good against good offenses is likely giving up 23 to 26 points a game. 

They are consistently on the wrong side of the evolution of the NFL's game play.

24 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

And that's why I said, "How often does that happen with a rookie QB who has a total of 3 passes in the NFL"

I also find it humerous that guys are dissecting film and criticizing a rookie QB when they don't even know if it was a read option and the play itself went for positive yards, regardless vs dissecting the myriad of other plays that should have/could have been executed properly by our starting QB.  

Is Jalen Hurts (with a total of 3 passes, all completions, btw) the reason this offense is struggling?  Give me a break and stop deflecting from the real issues. 

lol "just show Carson’s bad plays and missed opportunities, don’t show Jalens” 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

lol "just show Carson’s bad plays and missed opportunities, don’t show Jalens” 

It's almost like the entire offense is broken.😞

13 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I wouldn't mind the Hargrave signing if it were a different year.  I look at it as signing Hargrave means you can't sign Robby Anderson.  Not that he would have come here but once you pay Hargrave, you can't even try to sign Anderson.  I don't remember if Hargrave signed before or after Byron Jones but that money could have gone to CB.  Maybe another O-lineman?  I just think DT was not a position of need when you have glaring holes all over the roster.  Regarding Malik, yea he was on the decline but you already had a ton of money tied up in to him and Fletcher.  Sign a stop gap DT in the meantime which Hargrave essentially is.  I'll put money on it that he doesn't get a 2nd contract here.  

We also knew that the Eagles were against the cap in 2021 with an aging roster.  Bringing in a guy who is almost 28 at a position you've already invested heavily in just doesn't make financial sense.

 

Yup. I didn't think it made sense at the time to bring in an aging Declining Malik the year before especially the way his contract was structured.

Howie was of the belief that the eagles were a piece or two away from winning another super bowl in 2019 and the Malik signing was inductive if that, which is fine if say he's on a one year contract or his contract is structured that one can easily get out of it after a year yet the way howie structured the contract makes it next impossible to get out of. 

Just a questionable choice to sign him and more so to the contract he got which was then attempted to correct by signing Hargrave to basically the same contract.

Stupid stuff.

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t think their idea was so they could stop the run. It was so they can get pressure up the middle to get quarterbacks off their spot. The problem is you’re in a league now where more and more teams are moving the pocket anyways and getting their quarterback outside of the pocket more to make plays. Add on you’re in a offense driven league so if you were going to spend big bucks then you might as well do it on the offense of side to get your team scoring 28 to 35 points a game because your defense is good against good offenses is likely giving up 23 to 26 points a game. 

That was the thought.  Pressure up the middle.  Jim Schwartz needs to learn that scheme can help too.  Blitz your safeties, blitz your linebackers.  Run stunts.  They pay top dollar for their DT and expect them to just win their battles.  If the Eagles invested just a small amount in decent linebackers who can blitz AND cover, the schemed to take advantage of that kind of player and got creative then they could get by with Antonio Dixons and Darwin Walkers of the world rather than having $170 million tied up in 3 players.  Thing is, I was a DT in my hs and college playing days so I love the position.  I just don't think it's smart to have that much.

8 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Oh right his accuracy is bad because of other people? His mechanics are bad because of other people? My god this guy gets so many freaking excuses made for him. I'm bored of it.

No one is saying he is playing well, but this entire offense is broken.  Players, scheme, play calling, execution.

1 hour ago, Parrot Head said:

It’s painfully obvious watching him that this is the case.

And it didn’t just start this year, it’s been a problem all along, which is why I have little faith in Wentz long term.

Part of it has been on the young WRs not being able to release, but there have been a lot of sacks on Wentz. He hasn't been great at going through progressions. 

Hero ball is another big problem with the number of sacks. 

Out of the top slowest Time to Throw QBs, I noticed most of them were in the top of the league at being sacked. The only outliers have good o-lines, (Mayfield for example). With this o-line being so inconsistent, the ball needs to get out quicker. That's on Wentz for holding onto the ball for too long at times. It's also on Pederson for calling deep routes when the short and intermediate should be the game; also need the run game. 

Then there's Howie, who really has been awful. Counting on receivers solely through the draft was a big idiotic decision. Banking on guys like JJAW and Dillard without insurance was really bad too. I wonder how Goodwin would've helped had he not opted out. Problem was, I thought if they signed a WR in FA I thought Howie would've avoided WR early in the draft and we desperately needed to take a WR early. 

The decision to go with Reagor over Jefferson still baffles me, and really dictates Howie's poor decision making and thought process. Jefferson was polished coming out of college and Reagor was a project with athleticism. What they needed more than anything is a WR that could've made an impact instantly, a good route runner, someone who could release, but they opted for a development project because of his athleticism. 

People said that Jefferson was just a slot receiver and that we didn't need a slot guy (without hindsight of him being more than a slot guy now), but let me tell you what, I'd rather have had a dominant slot guy making plays early in his career than a project that may or may not pan out in the future. 

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

They are consistently on the wrong side of the evolution of the NFL's game play.

Well that’s definitely true. Don and I had a discussion I want to say before the 2018 season where if the league is going so heavily in favor of the offense that you should spend the big money on that side of the ball. Both of us said we wouldn’t be surprised if you started seeing teams in the draft in the first three rounds go more heavy on offense then defense. I’d like to see what the analytics show from 2014-2016 and 2017-2019 how that’s changed or fluctuated. Granted there’s some variables like was it A good defensive prospect draft or great offensive prospect draft. There’s always gonna be variables. Was just a theory that we were talking about to see over the next couple years if teams began to evolve into less defense commitment and over committing to offense with how the league rules are and how the league is continuing to evolve 

19 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The amount of money they have invested in the DT position in a league that doesn't run the football is laughable.  

Yup it makes zero sense to invest so much money on 3 DTs when only 2 of them are on the field at the same time.

Why not allocated that money to a LB or a corner or safety that will be on the field the same time as those two highly paid DTs instead of another DT that's on the bench.

Unless one is going to run a 34 defense and have those 3 DL be the 3 starters or run a 5 2 defense all game, having 3 DTs making big money is a sunk cost 

The season is saved.  JJAW is back from the Covid list.

2 hours ago, Bacarty2 said:

I just dont get it...

Redskins are top 5 passing defense with that front 4. They're close to 20 in rushing defense and couldnt stop the Eagles rush week 1. 

Doug has Wentz drop back 57 times, he got hit 12? times, sacked another 8 and then you have people on here

1) blaming Wentz

and 2) wonder why his QB rating is down. LOL. 

Eagles were up 17-7 and then Doug runs the ball 7 times in the 2nd half including 13 straight pass plays when they were up 17-10 and tied 17-17

Genius.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

The season is saved.  JJAW is back from the Covid list.

Is he off the ISuckAtFootball list?

4 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Arthur Smith, please. If we move on from Doug. 

Go ahead "NFL execs," back that up with an aggressive trade offer. Put your money where your mouth is.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

lol "just show Carson’s bad plays and missed opportunities, don’t show Jalens” 

We don't even know if it was a "read option"....if it wasn't, it was not a "missed opportunity".   How often has Jalen passed this year?  Right.  So chances are it was a designed run.  Maybe someone can ask Doug if it was a read option or designed run so that we can put this debate to rest...  for one play.  

And do we really want to go that route around here?  Because there's probably 100+ plays we can "assume" in regards to Wentz this year and I assure you, it won't bode well for him.