1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

I wasnt uphappy with the pick. I thought it was actually a safe pick. 

Looked good, tape looked good. Alshon 2.0, passing of tourch, i was ok with it. 

I didnt know he was going to turn into dorrell green beckham 2.0

At this point I'd be happy with DGB numbers from JJAW but he won't even get to that.

4 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Fairly sure you dont know the difference between excuses and facts. 

Top Drop backs

3-7-1 Eagles

4-7 Falcons

3-8 Cowboys(whos QB Died)

2-8-1 Cinncy(whos QB Died)

Tampa Bay.

 

 

RIP Dak and Joe☹️

NFL Run D rankings - Yards

- Green Bay (13)
- NO (2)
- Arizona (22)
- Dallas (32)
- Washington (14)

Rushing the ball in the next couple of weeks isn't going to magically cure our offense.

 

I'm an equipment nerd and this has me excited.  VICIS has their 2nd helmet coming out.  Not a lot of guys wear the ZERO1 (Mahomes, Wilson are the 2 big ones).  Would love to see some of our Eagles wear this next year.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I wasnt uphappy with the pick. I thought it was actually a safe pick. 

Looked good, tape looked good. Alshon 2.0, passing of tourch, i was ok with it. 

I didnt know he was going to turn into dorrell green beckham 2.0

JJAW aspires to be DGB at this point. 

20 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Speaking of the talent on offense, who would you consider the best player on offense right now? I’m going to assume your answer is going to be the one I would also select.

There are a few that are playing well, imo

Sanders would be the obvious choice but Goedert, Mailata, Fulgham, Reagor, Ward, Scott, Kelce (down year but still decent) and Johnson (hurt but played well when healthy) have all played well (at least) at some points during the season.  At least "good enough" to warrant a roster spot moving forward, imo. 

41 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Team sucks, lets do a walkthrough instead of practice. Brilliant. 

At least Driscoll is at RT

What kind of ice cream was there?

Just now, Alphagrand said:

What kind of ice cream was there?

Chocolate or vanilla 

I don’t know how i stumbled upon this but it made me laugh

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

What kind of ice cream was there?

Freezer burned lemon sorbet 

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

Exactly. We had a whole conversation yesterday about simplifying the offense, apparently that doesn’t include getting the ball into the hands of your best player.

Doug's solution to simplifying the offense according to him was making sure Wentz had an out let receiver on every pass and that he looked to throw at it first.

Normally the progression under doug is deepest route to shortest 

Question is why didn't doug always have an out let receiver available in the first place? and while telling qb to look at out let first is simple it kind of defeats the function of an " outlet"

Doug is apparently too dim to realize that running the same crap and asking the qb to look at the out let first while simpler is also incredibly in effective

Most coaches would say my qb sucks my line can't pass block they  like to run block my RB is one of the better players on my offense my TE can block and catch my qb is good on the move why don't I go heavy run and work simple passes off that run action get my qb rolling out and give him simple reads where he only has to read half the field and tops 3 routes???

I guess thats too complicated, much simpler to just tell Wentz to look at his out let first😠

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t know how i stumbled upon this but it made me laugh

Come one now....I could be wrong but if I were to guess, Howie is the main driving force in keeping Wentz in as the starter...and Pederson to a lesser extent.  Howie was the "mastermind" in acquiring Wentz and I would guess he would do anything in his power in order for Wentz to succeed.  If the Eagles end up parting ways with Wentz after 2021, that won't be the "best look" for Howie as a GM.  

20 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Excuse. Excuse. Excuse. 

Excuse after Excuse after Excuse. Every Excuse under the sun. 

It’s not a question of making excuses at this point.  The cake has been baked for 2020 and there isn’t going to be much difference in the last 5 games from what we’re already seeing.  The crucial question right now is 2021 and beyond.

Even if the Eagles did precisely what I want them to do (won’t happen, of course) — draft Ja’Marr Chase or Jaylen Waddle as part of an offense-focused draft, hire Pete Carmichael Jr or Joe Brady as head coach, bring in a hot-shot QB coach and OC with new scheme and ideas — when it comes to Wentz, he’s going to have to spend the entire offseason being "de-programmed” .... meaning back to basics, fixing footwork and mechanics, go to school on game film and fix the deficiencies in his game.  He will need to put in the work on that.  If he doesn’t see the need to do it, or isn’t driven to do it, he’s not going to be magically rebuilt into the QB he was when he was drafted  

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Come one now....I could be wrong but if I were to guess, Howie is the main driving force in keeping Wentz in as the starter...and Pederson to a lesser extent.  Howie was the "mastermind" in acquiring Wentz and I would guess he would do anything in his power in order for Wentz to succeed.  If the Eagles end up parting ways with Wentz after 2021, that won't be the "best look" for Howie as a GM.  

Yup I'd replace howie with pederson in the pic.

10 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Come one now....I could be wrong but if I were to guess, Howie is the main driving force in keeping Wentz in as the starter...and Pederson to a lesser extent.  Howie was the "mastermind" in acquiring Wentz and I would guess he would do anything in his power in order for Wentz to succeed.  If the Eagles end up parting ways with Wentz after 2021, that won't be the "best look" for Howie as a GM.  

I am 100% disagree with you on that. Roseman is the GM he has final say on every single draft pick he makes and every single signing he makes. He decided to take Jalen hurts in the second round. That is on Roseman deciding he needed another quarterback in round two. so he was also the mastermind behind drafting Jalen hurts.

it is also not the "best look” on howie rosemen if Jalen hurts when Carson Wentz has been this bad can’t get onto the field. 

Howie Roseman was trying to help Carson with that second round pick wouldn’t been a back up quarterback which was going to be a bad plan from the start as he just got out of the shadow of Nick Foles. And yesterday it came out Carson was mad about it

Also I think you have a skewed view of who’s not allowing Jalen hurts to play. First off I don’t think doug knows how to use Jalen hurts in more ways then he already has. The fact that we are now in week 13 and he still hasn’t figured out new plays for Jalen Hurts package to run speaks volumes and you seem to not discuss that. Additionally I think Doug knows if he put Jalen hurts out there during this stretch and he doesn’t play well due to the same issues going on then that’s a reflection on Doug. So if that happens who do you think everyone’s going to go after if Jalen hurts struggled and Carson Wentz struggled in the offense for the same reasons that are going on? Yeah likelihood doug. 

Methinks Howie is full of himself.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I am 100% disagree with you on that. Roseman is the GM he has final say on every single draft pick he makes and every single signing he makes. He decided to take Jalen hurts in the second round. That is on Roseman deciding he needed another quarterback in round two. so he was also the mastermind behind drafting Jalen hurts.

Howie Roseman was trying to help Carson with that second round pick wouldn’t been a back up quarterback which was going to be a bad plan from the start as he just got out of the shadow of Nick Foles. And yesterday it came out Carson was mad about it  

Also I think you have a skewed view of who’s not allowing Jalen hurts to play. First off I don’t think doug knows how to use Jalen hurts in more ways then he already has. The fact that we are now in week 13 and he still hasn’t figured out new plays for Jalen Hurts package to run speaks volumes and you seem to not discuss that. Additionally I think Doug knows if he put Jalen hurts out there during this stretch and he doesn’t play well due to the same issues going on then that’s a reflection on Doug. So if that happens who do you think everyone’s going to go after if Jalen hurts struggled and Carson Wentz struggled in the offense for the same reasons that are going on? Yeah likelihood doug. 

I'm not sure about that.

Howie Roseman is the guy responsible for guaranteeing Wentz 100+ million dollars and making him impossible to trade and/or cut until after the 2021 season.  And even then it will be close to a 25 million dollar cap hit. 

That alone would cost Howie his job.  So why on Earth would Howie want that?

The Jalen Hurts pick had everything to do with the "premium" they place on the backup QB position and the fact that Wentz ended his previous 3 seasons due to injury.  That's why they picked Hurts. 

13 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I'm not sure about that.

Howie Roseman is the guy responsible for guaranteeing Wentz 100+ million dollars and making him impossible to trade and/or cut until after the 2021 season.  And even then it will be close to a 25 million dollar cap hit. 

That alone would cost Howie his job.  So why on Earth would Howie want that?

The Jalen Hurts pick had everything to do with the "premium" they place on the backup QB position and the fact that Wentz ended his previous 3 seasons due to injury.  That's why they picked Hurts. 

Again you’re ignoring the point you made Howie Roseman is doing everything to help Carson wentz. That was one of your initial points. No he’s not. He drafted a back up quarterback in the second round instead of putting weapons or a better offensive line around Carson to make his life easier. Add on the shadow he casted of the backup QB drafting high. And on a wide receiver discussion for months ago where I told you was idiotic plan that they had and you kept telling me oh Alshon Jeffery and DeSean Jackson and then the rookies it was gonna be all right. You turned out to be completely incorrect.  that wasn’t helping Carson wentz that was an idiotic plan from the very get-go in the off-season Especially when you consider they haven’t been good at evaluating wide receivers in the draft

He’s also responsible for the second round pick that he claims they think could be the next Russell Wilson. That was part of the reasoning was we didn’t want to pass up on Russell Wilson like we did years ago. They said it. Howie said it. So you’re telling me he believes that he could be Russell Wilson and Carson Wentz is struggling so bad that he doesn’t want him to go out there and try to be the player that he imagined and prove his pick was justified and correct to everyone calling him out saying it was a idiotic pic? I find that highly unlikely. 

just so we’re clear  Roseman would not be going anywhere if Jalen hurts plays or becomes a good qb. Because it means he had the foresight to know that Carson Wentz was in the decline even though we gave them a contract but he rectified the fact that as he was able to get another quarterback of that talent and notice his mistake. If he was able to notice that Carson Wentz wasn’t a guy and manage to get you another quarterback that is better or good before anyone guess it or could see what was coming then Jeffrey lurie isn’t firing that guy. 

now I can see Jeffrey lurie saying if Carson Wentz who they believe in and Jalen hurts who they believe can be Russell Wilson are both out there struggling with the same exact problems then I think Jeffrey lurie is going to look deeper into it as it is a Doug/ coaching problem

 

37 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

What kind of ice cream was there?

The 'Straw that broke the camel's back berry'

Or maybe Rocky Road.

RGIII is still terrible.

 

That is all.

26 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Again you’re ignoring the point you made Howie Roseman is doing everything to help Carson wentz. That was one of your initial points. No he’s not. He drafted a back up quarterback in the second round instead of putting weapons or a better offensive line around Carson to make his life easier. Add on the shadow he casted of the backup QB drafting high. And on a wide receiver discussion for months ago where I told you was idiotic plan that they had and you kept telling me oh Alshon Jeffery and DeSean Jackson and then the rookies it was gonna be all right. You turned out to be completely incorrect.  that wasn’t helping Carson wentz that was an idiotic plan from the very get-go in the off-season Especially when you consider they haven’t been good at evaluating wide receivers in the draft

He’s also responsible for the second round pick that he claims they think could be the next Russell Wilson. So you’re telling me he believes that he could be Russell Wilson and Carson Wentz is struggling so bad that he doesn’t want him to go out there and try to be the player that he imagined and prove his pick was justified and correct to everyone calling him out saying it was a idiotic pic? I find that highly unlikely. 

just so we’re clear  Roseman would not be going anywhere if Jalen hurts plays or becomes a good qb. Because it means he had the foresight to know that Carson Wentz was in the decline even though we gave them a contract but he rectified the fact that as he was able to get another quarterback of that talent and notice his mistake. If he was able to notice that Carson Wentz wasn’t a guy and manage to get you another quarterback that is better or good before anyone guess it or could see what was coming then Jeffrey lurie isn’t firing that guy. 

now I can see Jeffrey lurie saying if Carson Wentz who they believe in and Jalen hurts who they believe can be Russell Wilson are both out there struggling with the same exact problems then I think Jeffrey lurie is going to look deeper into it as it is a Doug/ coaching problem

 

I think you're over complicating it.  There's little chance that it's some sort of "vast conspiracy" that Howie Roseman is intentionally making Wentz look bad in order to "prop up" his 2nd round pick.

I mean, seriously...read what you are writing.  It's a borderline conspiracy theory.

Carson Wentz looked like the Carson Wentz of 2017 heading into the playoffs last year.  He had won several "high pressure" games in a row and could have won his first playoff game had he not been injured. 

Zero chance Howie thinks to himself, "I better draft Jalen Hurts and not draft Wentz any help" so when we cut Wentz after 2021 I can keep my job.  That's insane.  Especially since Wentz looked like an "All pro" at the end of last season.  

It was likely something along the lines of, "We have a guy here that we think highly of available to us in the 2nd round.  As much as we appreciate what Josh McCown did for us last season and as much as we like Sudfeld, we really need to draft a high-caliber guy that we can groom into being a backup for Wentz, especially since we are a playoff team and we could need a guy to come in and win a few games for us in case Wentz were to get injured" 

And all reports state that Pederson was also "high" on the Jalen Hurts pick for the same reasons.

 

 

 

Ben Roethlisberger with an ugly RZ int. 

 

This game is terrible. 

Ben Wentz

5 hours ago, Mike31mt said:

Yikes,  that is pretty damning

Honestly, every day my ire waffles between Howie and Doug.  

I dont think Howie has given Doug the right pieces, and the management-by-consensus approach has turned into a nightmare where Doug has little control.  Howie definitely deserves to go.

Basically, Doug was mostly set up to fail, but he has failed spectacularly.  It sucks, in my heart of hearts I feel like Doug deserves a shot to make his own hires and call his own shots.  But even though he deserves that chance, I don't have faith he'd succeed.   

 

Rooting for a very physical game so Washington can take advantage of the Steelers on short rest.