Our defense is 16th in the NFL in points surrendered, top 10 in yards.  A 3 point swing puts them just outside the top 5 in points.

Now, the stats don't quite back it up...but adjusted for competition and turnovers, I do believe we have the worst offense in the NFL.

If this defense, was not saddled with this turnover machine, short field producing, 3 and out offense...that could easily shave 3 points of their per game totals and rankings.

The whole team is under the microscope, but for 2020 standards, one might even call this defense good.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Our defense is 16th in the NFL in points surrendered, top 10 in yards.  A 3 point swing puts them just outside the top 5 in points.

Now, the stats don't quite back it up...but adjusted for competition and turnovers, I do believe we have the worst offense in the NFL.

If this defense, was not saddled with this turnover machine, short field producing, 3 and out offense...that could easily shave 3 points of their per game totals and rankings.

The whole team is under the microscope, but for 2020 standards, one might even call this defense good.

Some of the defensive numbers are skewed cause we faced Haskins, dinucci and Mullens. 

Just now, eagle45 said:

Our defense is 16th in the NFL in points surrendered, top 10 in yards.  A 3 point swing puts them just outside the top 5 in points.

Now, the stats don't quite back it up...but adjusted for competition and turnovers, I do believe we have the worst offense in the NFL.

If this defense, was not saddled with this turnover machine, short field producing, 3 and out offense...that could easily shave 3 points of their per game totals and rankings.

The whole team is under the microscope, but for 2020 standards, one might even call this defense good.

I can't disagree with this.

 

And I 100% agree that the focus needs to be on the offense.  That's where games are won and lost now.  Essentially, the last possession is the entire game many times.  The defense has to keep you close, and then the offense needs to close it out when the time comes.   That's the opposite of 30 years ago, where defenses were dominant and you could sneak 17 points out and the defense lock down your opponent and punting in the 4th quarter after holding the ball for a few minutes was good enough with a good defense.

 

Now... that 4th quarter needs to turn in to points.  Either extend a lead, or stay on the see-saw of lead changes to stay within striking range for that final possession.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Some of the defensive numbers are skewed cause we faced Haskins, dinucci and Mullens. 

Meh... other teams faced the Jets, Jags and Eagles   

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Meh... other teams faced the Jets, Jags and Eagles   

Yeah but i don’t think dinucci ever plays QB again in an nfl game. I can make the case minshew is at least a backup QB and ditto with Glennon. Darnold is a NFL Qb. And Flacco is what he is. I think all three of those guys I’d be surprised if they are in the league by end of 2021 (i think Haskins fades away quickly). 

4 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I don't want to talk about it.

 JJ is one of my favorite prospects ever. I'll be in my 50's still being bitter about that pick. Stats showed he was the 2nd best deep threat over Jerry Juedy the year before. Not just a slot dude. 

This team doesn't use analytics though. They just say they do like all the other lies. Our fanbase deserves better. 

1 minute ago, AzBirdGang said:

 JJ is one of my favorite prospects ever. I'll be in my 50's still being bitter about that pick. Stats showed he was the 2nd best deep threat over Jerry Juedy the year before. Not just a slot dude. 

This team doesn't use analytics though. They just say they do like all the other lies. Our fanbase deserves better. 

You say that like 50s is old.   😢

4 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

We all have misses. I know my record and Im proud of it. 

You and I were majorly high on Higgins. The acc championship game was all you needed to see with him. 

Glad he went Bengals with Burrow. Going to have a great career. 

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

You say that like 50s is old.   😢

I'm 31. 50 isn't old either. Lol

Im 45 and yes 50s is old

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

Im 45 and yes 50s is old

I hope not.

16 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Our defense is 16th in the NFL in points surrendered, top 10 in yards.  A 3 point swing puts them just outside the top 5 in points.

Now, the stats don't quite back it up...but adjusted for competition and turnovers, I do believe we have the worst offense in the NFL.

If this defense, was not saddled with this turnover machine, short field producing, 3 and out offense...that could easily shave 3 points of their per game totals and rankings.

The whole team is under the microscope, but for 2020 standards, one might even call this defense good.

The linebackers settling in definitely has helped. Still need one that can at least somewhat cover a RB or TE but they play pretty well in space and are decent against the run. 
 

That being said, if the Eagles have a top 10 pick and don’t get their WR, the pick will be defense. Probably D-Line. Graham or McLeod are one injury away from being done for good and they may be the two best players on defense right now. Barnett is making the case for an extension but is he worth it? Still need a 2nd corner for next year and will probably need another in 2022. Preseason I felt Slay probably has two starter worthy seasons for this team. 
 

Should be interesting. 

A DE like Miamis Rouseau would make sense

25 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

A DE like Miamis Rouseau would make sense

Mixed feelings there. I think he’s a very boom or bust pick and it’s going to rely a lot on whose coaching him. 

14 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Mixed feelings there. I think he’s a very boom or bust pick and it’s going to rely a lot on whose coaching him. 

In 2021, we will have Graham, Barnett, Sweat and Avery on the roster. Sweat/Barnett still project as starters in 2022 (if we want to). No thanks to Rousseau with all the other guys available. 

1 minute ago, RLC said:

In 2021, we will have Graham, Barnett, Sweat and Avery on the roster. Sweat/Barnett still project as starters in 2022 (if we want to). No thanks to Rousseau with all the other guys available. 

I forget where I read/heard it but they said Sweat will never be a starter because of his knee and it won’t hold up with the workload. I think DE is a need but don’t necessarily think it’s a huge need or he’s worth a top pick. 

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

The linebackers settling in definitely has helped. Still need one that can at least somewhat cover a RB or TE but they play pretty well in space and are decent against the run. 
 

That being said, if the Eagles have a top 10 pick and don’t get their WR, the pick will be defense. Probably D-Line. Graham or McLeod are one injury away from being done for good and they may be the two best players on defense right now. Barnett is making the case for an extension but is he worth it? Still need a 2nd corner for next year and will probably need another in 2022. Preseason I felt Slay probably has two starter worthy seasons for this team. 
 

Should be interesting. 

I just find it terrifying that they could actually bring the same offense into 2021.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Our defense is 16th in the NFL in points surrendered, top 10 in yards.  A 3 point swing puts them just outside the top 5 in points.

Now, the stats don't quite back it up...but adjusted for competition and turnovers, I do believe we have the worst offense in the NFL.

If this defense, was not saddled with this turnover machine, short field producing, 3 and out offense...that could easily shave 3 points of their per game totals and rankings.

The whole team is under the microscope, but for 2020 standards, one might even call this defense good.

As much as I criticize Schwartz and want him gone it's based off how the secondary plays and his love for Gerry and Mills.  If you put another good CB opposite of Slay and had good LBs, his defense would be alot better.  Still currently they are pretty solid for the most part.  

The offense is awful.  Maybe the worst in the league.

5 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

As much as I criticize Schwartz and want him gone it's based off how the secondary plays and his love for Gerry and Mills.  If you put another good CB opposite of Slay and had good LBs, his defense would be alot better.  Still currently they are pretty solid for the most part.  

The offense is awful.  Maybe the worst in the league.

I agree Schwartz has his annoying tendencies. I don’t agree with a lot of the fan base that assume whoever replaces him will be an upgrade. I hope I’m wrong, but I think this might be a case of careful what you wish for. 

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I agree Schwartz has his annoying tendencies. I don’t agree with a lot of the fan base that assume whoever replaces him will be an upgrade. I hope I’m wrong, but I think this might be a case of careful what you wish for. 

You're probably right if we did replace him it might be another Bill Davis, who knows?  We can never know for sure.

As crazy as it sounds I wouldn't mind if he came back but only if Mills and Gerry are both gone.  They need to upgrade the talent at LB and CB though.  

32 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I just find it terrifying that they could actually bring the same offense into 2021.

Last year it was a talent issue. This year it’s coaching, preparation, player development, lack of identity, play calling, and the QB being totally mind-F’d 

4 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Last year it was a talent issue. This year it’s coaching, preparation, player development, lack of identity, play calling, and the QB being totally mind-F’d 

If it makes you guys feel better I don’t think we’re winning the SB either.

9 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Last year it was a talent issue. This year it’s coaching, preparation, player development, lack of identity, play calling, and the QB being totally mind-F’d 

The offense this year is basically the same offense last year except it's a worse offensive line because of the injuries and the constant carousel every week, which is in turn leading to the regression that we're seeing from Wentz. From a receiver standpoint, they're still not getting separation and every pass beyond 10 yards is basically a low-end 50/50 minimum percentage play. I can't remember the last time someone in this offense caught a ball 15-20 yards down the field and didn't have a defender within a yard of him. It was really the same thing last season too. Howard getting hurt last season really threw a wrench into things. I think we saw this team's identity in the GB, CHI, and BUF games last season when they were pounding the ball and sustaining drives. Their inability to have a reliable, north/south second back behind Sanders killed them this year too. Wentz is essentially playing that role with his scrambles and designed runs. 

Bottom line is that I think they had the same lack of coaching, game-planning, scheming, and play design as last year. The difference is that Wentz has cratered. For some reasons within his control and for others outside of it. 

I really thought they would commit to Sanders this year and he'd be a weekly 20+ touch type of RB for this offense between carries and catches. But Doug or Duce clearly does not trust him and I think that's probably been the biggest failure in the offense this year. 

I had a feeling this was the predominant feeling around the league and it's the reason why if they decided to pull the trigger on a Wentz trade, they would still get very good value. I'm 100% against that because I'd rather see Wentz on this team with a competent coach who can scheme and play-call rather than Doug's scheming and play-calling with another QB like Hurts. I think most heads around the league view Wentz as being in an abusive home who needs to be rescued. 

 

2 hours ago, AzBirdGang said:

You and I were majorly high on Higgins. The acc championship game was all you needed to see with him. 

Glad he went Bengals with Burrow. Going to have a great career. 

I'm 31. 50 isn't old either. Lol

I feel like I'm not getting my just dues for being on the higgins bandwagon.😄

Having said that I wasn't on the JJ wagon.☹️

9 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I feel like I'm not getting my just dues for being on the higgins bandwagon.😄

Having said that I wasn't on the JJ wagon.☹️

I wanted Higgins as well.  I would have been fine if they took him in the 1st instead of Reagor.

But Reagor might end up being a really good player.