3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Fair. 

Well... I think we should leave it there then... some common ground.

14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I made the pancake comment that nigth when someone brought up the super bowl play and Ferris was the first to mention how he sucked on that play and the ball bounced to him. I mentioned that he was pancaked. 

It wasnt the play in the Seattle game that Hargrave made first even though Barnett was only blocked by a WR. No one said he got pancaked on that one.

wrong

I went back and found it.  It was confusing because you were responding to someone else who was talking about the play and the first thing you said, "He was pancaked" then you went on to reference the Super Bowl play.

7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

And I disagree.   If it is below market, its only slightly below.... and those picks would have been very helpful in adding young talent to this roster... which hopefully would help us beyond 2021... when it matters.

With Howie drafting? Far from a guarantee. How many times has it been said this year how many all stars he’s drafted in 5 years. 

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

And I disagree.   If it is below market, its only slightly below.... and those picks would have been very helpful in adding young talent to this roster... which hopefully would help us beyond 2021... when it matters.

FWIW, here are the highest paid FA/traded corners that moved this offseason and were given new deals. 

Byron Jones’ deal is basically 3-$54M with $4.2M deadcap. 

James Bradberry was 2-$27M with $3M dead cap.

Trae Waynes was 2-$26M with a $5M dead cap. 

1 hour ago, jwill2420 said:

For the first time all season...

 

I wish I could show up to work every 5 weeks and people say I’m doing exceptionally well....

Pretty demanding atmosphere at IHOP?

The pick is Harris Bama

do it 

Chase is the pick

Don’t F the pick up is the pick. 

It’s gonna be fun looking at prospects in the top 10 this year. It won’t make up for this dreadful season, but it’ll be fun nonetheless. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Don’t F the pick up is the pick. 

I’m sure it will be 2 wrs in a row straight bust 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

It’s gonna be fun looking at prospects in the top 10 this year. It won’t make up for this dreadful season, but it’ll be fun nonetheless. 

The prospects we will get to choose from in the top 10 of the second and third round also going to be nice. 

5 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

I’m sure it will be 2 wrs in a row straight bust 

It’s the eagles i don’t put anything past them. 

Poor LSU #25. 

14 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

It’s gonna be fun looking at prospects in the top 10 this year. It won’t make up for this dreadful season, but it’ll be fun nonetheless. 

Say we have 4th or 5th pick. Who are you taking?

Is Waddle hurt? 

3 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Is Waddle hurt? 

Ya been hurt 

8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Say we have 4th or 5th pick. Who are you taking?

Who’s on the board to choose from. Fields and Lawrence obviously off. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Who’s on the board to choose from. Fields and Lawrence obviously off. 

Strange scenario where Chase and Sewell are both there

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Strange scenario where Chase and Sewell are both there

Ooooo man. I’m guessing eagles go Sewell. Not necessarily what i would say I’d do. That’s brutally tough. 

24 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

You are forgetting the $6.5M he'll also cost in 2022 to drop him immediately after 2021... which raises his cost to an average of $13M.   I am thinking just fine.   Howie is spending good money and good draft capital after bad.  He selected Jones, Douglas, and Maddox... traded for Darby.  None of those moves worked, so he has to go out and trade for Slay, costing money that could have gone to other free agents.. and draft picks that could have brought in cheap players to fill in behind the expensive ones.    The way I see it... they used 2 resources on 1 player.   You don't use both draft capital and cap for a single player, unless it is a truly transformative player.  Slay is a wonderful guy, and a great CB.  But, he's not a difference maker for this team.  But, they weren't going to put more money into the WR position... because they already spent that money on Desean and Alshon.   But, the money would have been better spent on Robby Anderson, and using the draft picks to 'fix the CB position'... not that that's worked in the recent past.   That's the spot Howie has this team in though... spending both cap and draft capital to fix what he hasn't been able to figure out in 5 years as a GM, no matter how hard he's tried.

Since 2016 (Howie Roseman back as GM) the Eagles have:

(I'll rate some of the moves on a 1-5 basis, 1 being the worst, 5 being the best.)

- Hired Doug Pederson as head coach, 7-9 his first year, went 13-3 2nd year as head coach and won the Super Bowl 5/5

- Drafted Carson Wentz.  (Roseman put together a series of trades, including trading Bradford for a 1st round pick) - 5/5

- Drafted Vaitai - Crucial in the Super Bowl run and victory, low cost/high reward guy - 4/5

- Signed Brandon Brooks - arguably the best guard in the NFL - 5/5

- Signed Nick Foles to backup Wentz in 2017.  Nick went on to win the first Super Bowl for the City of Philadelphia as Super Bowl MVP - 5/5

- Signed Alshon Jeffery - a key part to the 2017 Super Bowl run, great NFCCG and great Super Bowl performance. 5/5

- Signed LeGarrette Blount to a team friendly deal - huge in 2017 and in the Super Bowl - 5/5

- Traded a 4th round pick for Jay Ajayi - missing piece of the 2017 Super Bowl team, absolutely essential that year 5/5

- Drafted Jalen Mills in the 7th round.  Outstanding value for a serviceable CB who can excel in specific schemes, when used properly 4/5

- Signed Timmy Jernigan - another solid player who contributed during the Super Bowl and when healthy 3/5

- Signed Patrick Robinson to a team friendly deal - crucial piece of the Super Bowl run, among the defensive MVP's in that run - 4/5

- Signed undrafted free agent Cory Clement - Stellar in 2017 and during the Super Bowl.  Exceptional value for an UDFA - 5/5

-  Drafted Isaac Seuamalo in the 3rd round.  Serviceable/Solid starter, value is good for a 3rd round pick. 3.5/5

- Drafted Dallas Goedert in the 2nd round - Traded up to get 1 pick in front of Dallas, to draft a guy Dallas wanted, named Dallas...in Dallas. (That alone is worth its weight in gold) 5/5

- Drafted Derek Barnett - Solid starter, gets better every year, fumble recovery after the strip sack to secure the first Lombardi - 4/5

- Drafted Miles Sanders - arguably the best playmaker on offense, arguably a top 10 NFL RB, potential to get even better. - 5/5

- Drafted Jordan Mailata in the 7th round - project who has now become the future starting Tackle of the team. 5/5

- Drafted Jalen Reagor - has shown promise, despite a few setbacks 

- SIgned Travis Fulgham - could end up being one of the best moves if he is who we think he is 

- Traded for Darius Slay - Among the top needs, top 5 CB, will cost the team a fraction of his worth for at least 2 years - 4/5

 

 

That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure I am missing a bunch.  

 But as you can clearly see, there is no Super Bowl Championship without Howie Roseman.  And if you think that's not an impressive resume, there's probably a dozen NFL teams that disagree with you and would likely hire him within hours (if he were to part ways with the Eagles). 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Strange scenario where Chase and Sewell are both there

Mac Jones

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Mac Jones

Had to google and as soon as I saw QB

Just now, Mike030270 said:

Had to google and as soon as I saw QB

We need a solid 3rd QB to fill out the factory after Sudfeld leaves 

Nevermind get D Smith 

JC Devontae Smith what a grab!

DeVonta Smith will be a star on day one in the NFL.