2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Dallas could very easily take Chase.  Amari Cooper has an extremely tradeable contract.  They can let Gallup walk and then they are left with CeeDee Lamb.  They save the money on Coopers contract and have a dynamic duo at WR.  Jerry LOVES weapons on offense.

UGH.  I had this feeling last year that CeeDee would go to the Cowboys and it happened.  Let's hope I'm wrong.

I mean if they did that it would definitely leave big holes to fill on defense.  Also, I think there's a good chance we end up with a higher pick.  

1 hour ago, Bacarty2 said:

Top to bottom I can still name 10-15 teams that would die for the Eagles roster.

Eagles roster *isnt that bad*. I believe the coaches dont put thier players in the right positions to win. 

Crazy things like, Alshon getting more snaps that Fulghan

Giving your best offensive weapon more than 7 carries a game 

Your first round punt return specialist having 3 total returns in 8 weeks

playing Nathan garry over my 5 year old

Remember these coaches couldnt find a spot for Golden State. They didnt know they had Boston Scott/Greg Ward/Fulgham until they were forced to use them.

JJAW/Mack Hollins both on record saying they had no idea what there rolls were

Dude, we don't have very good players outside of a few. Coaching sucks as well but our players don't execute and play like 2nd or 3rd stringers. We have very little talent. 

18 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I want to say they only have 6 in their last 23 games. 

And they all come in bunches. Its either 0 interceptions or 2-3 in a game. 

59 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

Who in the hell is teaching Wentz mechanics?  That is the first person that needs to go.  It looks like Ace Ventura's throwing motion.   Stand up and try to throw a football like this.  It feels like you're a 5 year old girl who has never thrown a ball in her life.    

 

47 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Upper body and hips already opened up while the ball/arm are lagging way behind.  That’s why he’s not even throwing spirals downfield.

In a pitcher, hand lags, in football, hand stays in tighter to the head.

No wonder he can barely control where the ball goes...

 

41 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

left foot pointed in the wrong direction too - will restrict his follow through and put strain on the knee/hip. but thats a sample size of one

 

32 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

His mechanics/footwork have been steadily deteriorating since his injury.  They've gotten to the point (this season) where they are so glaring, even casual fans can see they are a mess.

 

For example. look at the way his front foot is planted.  The first thing they teach you in High School (sometimes earlier) is that your front foot should face the direction where you want the ball to go.  Look at his eyes...does his front foot match up?  Not even close.

Can you get away with it from time to time, on broken plays, when you're scrambling, etc?....sure....but you need significant arm strength and you need to use double the energy to get the ball where you want it to go.   

If you dive into the habit of planting your foot sideways on most of your throws, you see exactly what is happening with Wentz this season....missed 5-10 yard throws, the ball rarely hitting a player in the numbers (even the completions, the receiver needs to "go get it" whether it's high (Ertz all last year) low, etc etc).

 

Excellent observations... we have been discussing this all year.  His mechanics have been hot garbage and there never appears to be any improvement or correction.  One of the first things the team needs is a real QB coach.  I have no idea what Press Taylor does, but it cannot involve teaching or re-enforcing proper mechanics.

16 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

False. 

His mechanics started going down hill after defilip left

Then your Coach, didnt bring in someone in to stay on his ass, but it's wentz's fault

Then your coach didnt brin in an OC, but it's wentz' fault lol

 

Imagine having an oil leak in a brand new  and instead of hiring a mechanic to fix it you want to go buy a whole new car. O and drive the car into the ground and wonder why it's not performing well 

I believe this is mostly true as well.  I don't like to blame positions coaches too much, but one coach that can have a tremendous impact is the QB coach.  DeFillippo clearly had Wentz progressing, had his mechanics right and they seemed to have a productive relationship.  It has not been the same since.  If Wentz was awful but he was mechanically sound, it is a different story, but he has none of the mechanics he had previously and just looks totally haphazard now.

25 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Foles was, without question, a better QB in this system.  If you can't comprehend that, you probably shouldn't post much in this blog because your knowledge of football is at a casual-fan level. (If that).

And call me what you will, getting called an "idiot" from someone like you is actually a compliment.  Cheers.

 

 

By what standard was Foles better in this system? He had 2 really good games in 5 games started (not counting his start against Dallas) in 2017.  He had 2 pretty bad games including a playoff game where he had the luckiest bounce of all time. The following year he had one really good game. 2 above average games and 2 bad games.  He had a playoff win where he played a pretty mediocre game and the team got a lucky bounce to win it.  He didn't play great in NO.  I am not sure how you could look at his actual performance and say he was better suited for the system. He's an up and down QB.  He certainly never played as consistently well as Wentz has played for the Eagles in this system.  

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

And they all come in bunches. Its either 0 interceptions or 2-3 in a game. 

True but really they have had 2 or more turnovers 3 times this year. Was against Mullens, dinucci and Daniel jones. They’ve done a bad job since the SB year of actually creating turnovers when they face good NFL qbs. 

1 hour ago, Cliftoma said:

Who in the hell is teaching Wentz mechanics?  That is the first person that needs to go.  It looks like Ace Ventura's throwing motion.   Stand up and try to throw a football like this.  It feels like you're a 5 year old girl who has never thrown a ball in her life.    

Disaster of a bust 

42 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I’d be thrilled to see Wentz clean it up, rebound, and be our guy.  Thrilled.

But very young top 10 picks at qb get "coddled.”  I don’t mean that in the negative sense.  What I mean...every decision is about maximizing their chance for success.  Who fits best with them, how can we adjust our competitive horizon to fit theirs, how can we maximize their protection, etc etc.

That ship has sailed on Wentz.  It’s time to look past him.  If he rights the ship, great...but a lot of that is on him now.  It should no longer be the sole purpose of the franchise to build around and fix Wentz.  Move forward...if HE figures it out, great.  

I mean whether Wentz improves or not the team needs to improve WR play and o-line play.  Beyond that they need a better QB coach because whatever is going on with Wentz has not been getting better.  I don't think fixing those issues necessarily are catering to Wentz.  The only catering would be calling plays that he can effectively execute.  That should not take a re-working of an offensive scheme. I mean look at Josh Allen last night.  They just made things easier for him by giving him better options.  

39 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

His mechanics/footwork have been steadily deteriorating since his injury.  They've gotten to the point (this season) where they are so glaring, even casual fans can see they are a mess.

 

For example. look at the way his front foot is planted.  The first thing they teach you in High School (sometimes earlier) is that your front foot should face the direction where you want the ball to go.  Look at his eyes...does his front foot match up?  Not even close.

Can you get away with it from time to time, on broken plays, when you're scrambling, etc?....sure....but you need significant arm strength and you need to use double the energy to get the ball where you want it to go.   

If you dive into the habit of planting your foot sideways on most of your throws, you see exactly what is happening with Wentz this season....missed 5-10 yard throws, the ball rarely hitting a player in the numbers (even the completions, the receiver needs to "go get it" whether it's high (Ertz all last year) low, etc etc).

 

 

Do you want to know what good mechanics/footwork look like?

Watch the way Nick Foles' front foot is planted on the vast majority of these plays and watch where the ball goes...

 

And before the Wentz fan-clubbers start complaining about Foles vs Wentz, I used this strictly as an example because as far as mechanics, Foles' mechanics/footwork were impeccable during his Super Bowl performance. 

I didn't even read what was said before looking at the pic and said to myself, what's up with that front foot it's pointing the wrong way.

I was also taught to point your foot the direction one wants the ball to go, that his foot is sideways in this pic seems wildly unnatural.

Beside the obvious flaws in footwork Wentz delivery is too long as well and needs to be more compact.

 

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I thought Gallup was a FA after this year.  You're right.  Trading Cooper to take Chase isn't dumb at all.  Cooper is $20 million per year starting next year.  If they can get out of that contract for a rookie who is a flat out stud.  Nothing stupid about that.

It's very dumb. They have a top 5 pick for a reason. Their team sucks and they have holes all over. Trading away your proven asset to take an unproven guy at #5 or wherever they land is at best a net wash. It doesn't improve the team at all. They are 8th in cap space even with the potential of it dropping to $175M. They have to do something with Dak but they aren't desperate for cap space. If they want to take $8M in dead money just to replace their best WR they just gave signed to get a guy who could potentially be as good, be my guest. Ignore the glaring death spots on defense. 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I didn’t respond to that but this all comes down to the fact he’s not Nick Foles and he feels they should’ve kept foles and dealt wentz for picks. That’s really what it is. 

Facts

It was fun while it lasted Carson. Wish you nothing but the best. 

If Wentz plays average this year, we're what....6-6? This is not a bottom 10 roster. This is a team that is killed by historically bad QB play. 

5 minutes ago, RLC said:

If Wentz plays average this year, we're what....6-6? This is not a bottom 10 roster. This is a team that is killed by historically bad QB play. 

It still begs the question as to what has contributed to his play being so bad.  I mean this team is a bottom 10 roster if we had only average coaching they would be 6-6 is just as applicable.  

11 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I mean whether Wentz improves or not the team needs to improve WR play and o-line play.  Beyond that they need a better QB coach because whatever is going on with Wentz has not been getting better.  I don't think fixing those issues necessarily are catering to Wentz.  The only catering would be calling plays that he can effectively execute.  That should not take a re-working of an offensive scheme. I mean look at Josh Allen last night.  They just made things easier for him by giving him better options.  

Yup.  That's really the key to it all.

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

Why?  

For many reasons.

Smith was playing fine that season, but Kaepernick was better. 

Smith was playing so well that the Niners got good trade value from KC. 

Wentz would be benched here for awful play and would not have the benefit of a change of scenery. 

1 hour ago, Mike31mt said:

Yeah the system with a great running game, OL, defense, and skill players making huge plays all over the field

Lets try Wentz in that system too

We did.

Does anyone else have the impression that Doug has created an offensive scheme that suits his skills as QB? A congested and plodding offense appropriate for an QB with limited mobility and below average arm talent.

1 hour ago, Bacarty2 said:

False. 

His mechanics started going down hill after defilip left

Then your Coach, didnt bring in someone in to stay on his ass, but it's wentz's fault

Then your coach didnt brin in an OC, but it's wentz' fault lol

 

Imagine having an oil leak in a brand new  and instead of hiring a mechanic to fix it you want to go buy a whole new car. O and drive the car into the ground and wonder why it's not performing well 

My coach?

Your agenda is glaring. 

2 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

Does anyone else have the impression that Doug has created an offensive scheme that suits his skills as QB? A congested and plodding offense appropriate for an QB with limited mobility and below average arm talent.

The 14 play 70 yard drive is so on brand for this team so maybe.  

It’s rare for Jim Schwartz to talk about a player who’s no longer here.

He made an exception for Malcolm Jenkins.

Boy, did he ever.

Schwartz was asked Tuesday morning about Jenkins, who returns to the Linc this weekend with the Saints, and what he meant to the Eagles and to Schwartz during their four years together.

"He was so efficient at doing his job that if he made a mistake it was like once a year,” Schwartz said. "Other players will make a couple mistakes a game. (He did) very, very, very rarely. If he did, it was like, ‘News flash’ that he had a missed assignment or wasn’t in the right spot. He was just that player that always did the right thing.”

Schwartz spoke for three minutes and raved about Jenkins, who made three Pro Bowls and won a Super Bowl in his six years with the Eagles before the Eagles let him walk this past offseason.

"Versatility was amazing with Malcolm,” Schwartz said. "He played seven different positions on defense here and he knew all 11. He knew all 11 like a coach, was a great set of eyes on the field for me, incredibly honest player, always did his job. …

"He was really good at weathering any storm, always remained calm, he knew when to turn it up and when to give his fellow teammates confidence. I’ve thought a lot over the years of all the great players that I coached and things like that and Malcolm certainly goes right up there. He’s probably the smartest player that I ever coached and leadership-wise you take all those (smartest) players, if he was on that he’d probably be elected team captain. I can’t have any more praise. I get in trouble for praising players, but that guy certainly meant a lot to me personally, he meant to our defense and our team.”

Jenkins, 32, has played well this year – he’s got two interceptions, two sacks, four tackles for loss, 62 tackles – and the Saints bring the No. 1 defense in the NFL to the Linc on Sunday.

Schwartz illustrated Jenkins’ football IQ with a moment from one of the two Seahawks games last year – he didn’t say which – where Jenkins did something he doesn’t recall any other player ever doing.

”He heard the offensive line say something about a look that that we had, he came to the sideline and said, ‘Schwartz, next third down call this. I guarantee we’re going to get a sack.’ And I had so much trust in him the next third down I called it and it happened exactly the way that he said and we got the sack but it was all just because of what he heard. He heard the offensive line talking about the next time we get that look this is what we have to do. That’s rare in a player. That’s rare No. 1 that he can understand what the offense is doing so well and can decipher things like that.

 

"I’ve probably gone on too long here, but I think a player of that stature and career and what he meant to us here deserves that kind of respect. … He doesn’t play for us anymore, I root like crazy for him 15 games a year but not going to be rooting for him on Sunday,” he said. "We’ll try our best to go after him, he’ll try his best to go after us, and that’s the way the NFL is.”

Schwartz would never come out and say he wanted the Eagles to keep Jenkins, but you don’t have to do a lot of reading between the lines to understand how he feels.

The Eagles let Jenkins walk without as much as a token contract offer as part of some sort of youth movement that never really took shape.

They clearly miss him not only on the field but in the locker room, and the decision to get rid of an all-time Eagles great sure looks like another disastrous move by Howie Roseman.

 

Sure sounds like letting Jenkins go wasn’t his call. But yes continue believing that Schwartz has total control of personel on D and he chooses to start late round/undrafted players over investing in the D. 

57 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

What system? This system is hot garbage, in case you haven't noticed. Let's look:

2017

Foles - 2-1 record, 57/101 for 56.4%, 537 yards, 5 TDs, 2 INTs, 5.3 YPA

Wentz - 11-2 record, 265/440 for 60.2%, 3296 yards, 33 TDs, 7 INTs, 7.5 YPA

2018 

Foles - 4-1 record, 141/195 for 72.3%, 1413 yards, 7 TDs 4 INTs, 7.2 YPA

Wentz - 5-6 record, 279/401 for 69.6%, 3074 yards, 21 TDs, 7 INTs, 7.7 YPA

 

So in total, Foles was 6-2, 198/296, 67%, 1950 yard, 12 TDs, 6 INTs, 6.59 YPA, averaging 243 yards per game, 1.5 TDs per game

Wentz - 16-8, 544/841, 65%, 6,370 yards, 54 TDs, 14 INTs, 7.57 YPA; averaging 265 yards per game and 2.25 TDs 

 

This isn't even taking into account Wentz's 300 yards rushing in 2017. So tell me how Foles is better? 

The fact that you failed to include all the playoff stats (Most important and hardest games to play in) and the Super Bowl stats (THE MOST important and most difficult game to play in shows everything I need to know.

Good day.

 

Get back to me when you actually want to discuss football.

 

5 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

Does anyone else have the impression that Doug has created an offensive scheme that suits his skills as QB? A congested and plodding offense appropriate for an QB with limited mobility and below average arm talent.

Wow.   That might be 100% spot on.  

Just now, Ace Nova said:

The fact that you failed to include all the playoff stats (Most important and hardest games to play in) and the Super Bowl stats (THE MOST important and most difficult game to play in shows everything I need to know.

Good day.

 

Get back to me when you actually want to discuss football.

 

He had 2 horrible playoff games that the D kept us in( Falcons and Saints) 1 average game at best against the Bears and 2 great games against the Vikings and Patriots. Hardly an amazing playoff record. 

36 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I dont think you watch the rest of the NFL or any NFL actually or have no idea what your talking about

Eagles roster, top to bottom, off the top of my head is better than the Jets, Cinncy, Jags, Texans(doug is B.ob. 2.0)  Lions, Panthers Bears, Giants, Redskins. 

And then you can get into the teams you can argue about. Healthy, I take the Eagles over the Dolphins and Patriots. 

Is Eagles roster, Elite. NO FFFFF NO. Is the Eagles roster as bad as everyone here thinks... NO. 

That's right I live such a sheltered life I don't watch anything but the Eagles. Oh and I don't care if **** teams would take our players, although that's even subjective because we are a **** team.