10 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Regular season game that they lost vs the Super Bowl that they won. 

So you want the focus to be on a specific game or two, not the entire body of work ??

Minus two playoff games, and the 27-2 stretch, Nick Foles has been a pedestrian QB at best.  This is coming from someone who led the charge against the Mike Vick crowd during the initial Foles debate on this board.

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

Wrong.

 

yeahhhhh it’s not. When 80% of the blog agrees with that take it might just be you  and there’s plenty of cases of it which makes it even more laughable 

But Maturity at its finest right there. I’m shocked you didn’t go with your usual you don’t know football. That’s usually your go too. 

3 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

That's fair. Do you think it's wise to put Wentz back in as the starter for the rest of this year? Do you think there's anything to gain by that? 

For the rest of the year, I don't know.  

For next week, I think it has to be Hurts.  Full disclosure, I am not a Hurts believer.  I think his floor is a below average passing mobile backup.  I think his ceiling is Tyrod Taylor or Baker Mayfield...NOT Russell Wilson.  But I keep saying "I think."  Might as well find out.

But I do think there is actually a better chance Wentz gets fixed than Hurts turns into a home run, although both remain low.  And in that interest, Wentz needs to step away.  He needs to play football again this year...2 full weeks off sounds about right.

In 2 weeks, Wentz will have been able to do some soul searching and self-critique.  Perhaps not enough time for a mechanical overhaul, but certainly enough time for some bumps/bruises, major flaws, and mental miscues to heal up.  We'll also know a lot more about Hurts.  It's the best thing for BOTH of them.  If Hurts shocks us all, then continue to see what he's got.  If he looks like a gimmick QB, then go back to Wentz.

By the end of the year, we should know if Wentz, Hurts, or neither project as a franchise QB for us.

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I like Singleton but he really didn’t have that game. When you go back and watch it on that 77 yard touchdown line he got sucked in and was beaten badly on the play. Hargrave actually got good penetration and just outran the play. He also was caught looking in the backfield on the tonyan td. He and edwards were burned on the Mercedes Lewis reception. Badly too. He was good most of the game against the run. But he was bad on three big time plays in that game. 

Yup, eagles easily have the worst group of LBs in the league, sure the eagles don't prioritize LB but to not even pretend to address it was a mistake.

In 2017 the eagles LBs were Hicks Bradham and Kendricks.

Bradham was pretty good Hicks got hurt mid season and Kendricks came in and had probably his best year.

Fast forward to now and a bunch of people in the know thought it was a good idea to take a college safety who was small for OLB and put him at MLB and surround him with a bunch of special team LBs. 

Eagles have the least amount of money allocated to LB in the league by a lot and the most allocated to DT.

Unless one is playing a 5 2 defense there is absolutely no reason to pay 3 DTs top money and have zero capable LBs. One DT other than goal line is going to be on the bench.

It's just a horribly bad thought process and makes me wonder if it was Howie's idea to construct the roster that way or Schwartz or both. Either way it's a mistake that has led to an unbalanced defense void of any play makers in the back 7

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

For the rest of the year, I don't know.  

For next week, I think it has to be Hurts.  Full disclosure, I am not a Hurts believer.  I think his floor is a below average passing mobile backup.  I think his ceiling is Tyrod Taylor or Baker Mayfield...NOT Russell Wilson.  But I keep saying "I think."  Might as well find out.

But I do think there is actually a better chance Wentz gets fixed than Hurts turns into a home run, although both remain low.  And in that interest, Wentz needs to step away.  He needs to play football again this year...2 full weeks off sounds about right.

In 2 weeks, Wentz will have been able to do some soul searching and self-critique.  Perhaps not enough time for a mechanical overhaul, but certainly enough time for some bumps/bruises, major flaws, and mental miscues to heal up.  We'll also know a lot more about Hurts.  It's the best thing for BOTH of them.  If Hurts shocks us all, then continue to see what he's got.  If he looks like a gimmick QB, then go back to Wentz.

By the end of the year, we should know if Wentz, Hurts, or neither project as a franchise QB for us.

I agree with all but the last sentence basically. I don't think we'll know anything about Wentz until a new system/coaching staff is brought in. His contract basically guarantees that we'll find out if he's shot or not the next 2 years. Even if he came back in and posted All Pro #'s the last few games, it doesn't change a single thing moving forward. 

4 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Question for the Blog: Do the Eagles prioritize OL help in the 2021 draft, or is it a matter of evaluating what they already have on the roster? Dillard or Mailata at LT? Driscoll's best fit? Can Prince be a viable RT or swing tackle? Does Issac move to C?

Not sure Sewell will fall to the Eagles at 5 or 6, but their should be quality OL in the tops of the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Should the Eagles prioritize OL there over other important positions of need? Most notably, there will be good LB/CB/S prospects in those spots.

IMO, there's no way Sewell will fall so I'm just tossing that option aside. I think there's so many moving parts you already listed its really hard to say. Looking at things the way they stand now, I think T is fine with Johnson, Mailata, Dillard and Driscoll. IOL would be the needed upgrade spots. If Seumalo moves to C I think you need to see whose there in the 2nd/3rd. If Seumalo stays I think you can look for a quality C in rounds 3/4/5 (if we can finagle a 4th round pick back). Out of the top 3 rounds I think you absolutely must come out with at least 1 WR and 1 CB. 

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

yeahhhhh it’s not. When 80% of the blog agrees with that take it might just be you  and there’s plenty of cases of it which makes it even more laughable 

But Maturity at its finest right there. I’m shocked you didn’t go with your usual you don’t know football. That’s usually your go too. 

80% of Wentz apologists.

And I have a newsflash for you: If some of you take the time to dwell outside of this blog, you will see that the vast majority of the rest of the world sees exactly what I see, including most analysts, etc.

Most were giving Wentz the benefit of the doubt for at least the first 8 or so games. 

Now, just about anyone outside this blog (at least 80%) of credible sources believe there are some major issues going on with Wentz.   They might not all agree on the cause but just about everyone agrees that there are issues.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yup, eagles easily have the worst group of LBs in the league, sure the eagles don't prioritize LB but to not even pretend to address it was a mistake.

In 2017 the eagles LBs were Hicks Bradham and Kendricks.

Bradham was pretty good Hicks got hurt mid season and Kendricks came in and had probably his best year.

Fast forward to now and a bunch of people in the know thought it was a good idea to take a college safety who was small for OLB and put him at MLB and surround him with a bunch of special team LBs. 

Eagles have the least amount of money allocated to LB in the league by a lot and the most allocated to DT.

Unless one is playing a 5 2 defense there is absolutely no reason to pay 3 DTs top money and have zero capable LBs. One DT other than goal line is going to be on the bench.

It's just a horribly bad thought process and makes me wonder if it was Howie's idea to construct the roster that way or Schwartz or both. Either way it's a mistake that has led to an unbalanced defense void of any play makers in the back 7

What’s funny is the eagles don’t value linebacker but their linebackers that year were good. Bradham had a career year. Kendricks who none of us expected played like he did early in his career. Hicks before he tore his Achilles was ok. Kendricks actually was outplaying him after. But they had 3 legit good linebackers that year and starters. This team has if they are lucky one average starter if singleton progresses. 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

80% of Wentz apologists.

And I have a newsflash for you: If some of you take the time to dwell outside of this blog, you will see that the vast majority of the rest of the world sees exactly what I see, including most analysts, etc.

Most were giving Wentz the benefit of the doubt for at least the first 8 or so games. 

Now, just about anyone outside this blog (at least 80%) of credible sources believe there are some major issues going on with Wentz.   They might not all agree on the cause but just about everyone agrees that there are issues.

 

 

I hope you're just being really obtuse on purpose now. The overall tone of the blog is clearly that Wentz has been awful, and going forward, he may not be the franchise QB he was envisioned to be. Some are certain that he's completely washed, some think a new city and new team could revitalize him, and some think a new coaching staff here could have a similar impact. Of that last group, most admit that it may not be enough and he might be finished in Philly. How you take away anything other than that.....

46 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

Not a Wentz hater.  In fact, I want him to do well as I do every Eagles QB.  There are several problems including OL, WR's etc but the mechanics are just horrible.  Almost every analyst who looks at Wentz's mechanics says the same thing:  too wide of a stance, open hips, foot pointing in the wrong direction restricting motion etc. 

Again, stand up and try a throwing motion like that pictured.  It is so freaking awkward.  

And, yes, Acenova is right.  Foles foot is pointing at his target on a majority of those throws.  So, while I agree that Wentz is not comfortable and not anticipating, he also has very poor mechanics that need to be fixed in order for him to be a more consistent passer of the football.  And it is correctable.    

    

Of course they say that, because most of them only have a modest understanding of whats going on here.  

All they know is that its now expedient to destroy Carson Wentz, he is a bust and he needs benched and he has regressed.  Thats a juicy narrative for general sports fans, and not the fact that Wentz has been set up to fail, we have used 10 diff OL combinations, poor coaching, poor drafting, etc.  No one wants that, they want quick and easy analysis and "QB cant throw passes anymore" is easy to understand and accept for most of their customers.

If you were to ask them to go and review Mahomes' mechanics, theyd never be able to defend it.  But you arent getting any clicks right now by taking shots at Mahomes mechanics

Wentz is a much easier targrt, they can tie in his injuries and Foles and thats some good content for hot takes.

Like on MNF, Goeddert runs the wrong route, Carson throws with anticipation (loke everyone wants) and it goes right to the defender.  Levy's call?  It wasnt "and Goeddert runs the wrong route!" It was "and there's the interception!" as if he was just waiting to make that call.

 

And no, Ace is not right, at least not up to 1:30 into the video which is as far as I watched. If you want a lot of NFL, youll see QBs side-arming, throwing off one foot, throwing off their back foot, etc.  Its just how the game is played now, this isnt 1993, offenses are dynamic and horizontal and the whole field is in play, inside and outside the pocket

Look at Josh Allens mechanics last night, most of hos throws are horrible mechanically but hes got a howitzer so it doesnt matter

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Yup, eagles easily have the worst group of LBs in the league, sure the eagles don't prioritize LB but to not even pretend to address it was a mistake.

In 2017 the eagles LBs were Hicks Bradham and Kendricks.

Bradham was pretty good Hicks got hurt mid season and Kendricks came in and had probably his best year.

Fast forward to now and a bunch of people in the know thought it was a good idea to take a college safety who was small for OLB and put him at MLB and surround him with a bunch of special team LBs. 

Eagles have the least amount of money allocated to LB in the league by a lot and the most allocated to DT.

Unless one is playing a 5 2 defense there is absolutely no reason to pay 3 DTs top money and have zero capable LBs. One DT other than goal line is going to be on the bench.

It's just a horribly bad thought process and makes me wonder if it was Howie's idea to construct the roster that way or Schwartz or both. Either way it's a mistake that has led to an unbalanced defense void of any play makers in the back 7

My philosophy (if running a 4-3), used to be that you put it all into your DE's and shut down CB's.  Shop at Dollar Tree for your LBs and find marginal value at S by finding sure-tackling converted CB's on the cheap.  That seemed to jive with the lopsided passing direction the league had taken.

Now, I'm not so sure.  I think the target has shifted.  Defenses are helpless.  Offenses dictate games.  Resources are wasted in trying to find elite CBs that don't exist.  Offenses' intrinsic misfires and down weeks have more to do with stopping them in shootouts than elite pass rushers or DBs.  You used to get penalized for hitting a QB (cleanly) too hard.  Now you get penalized for hitting a WR too hard.

I actually think the team that manages to put the LEAST amount of resources into an average or better defense wins.  The best way to do that is to avoid large weaknesses.  You don't need the 18 sack pass rusher or the pro-bowl CB.  They are irrelevant and expensive.  Offenses will just scheme them out.  4 DB's that are not a clear embarrassing weakness, 3 high motor DEs that are just relentless enough to get coverage sacks and pressures, and OK LBs that can tackle and cover, no playmakers needed.  

Just a modestly priced uniformly decent defense.  11 Nigel Bradham's (pre overpriced extension).  

21 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

80% of Wentz apologists.

And I have a newsflash for you: If some of you take the time to dwell outside of this blog, you will see that the vast majority of the rest of the world sees exactly what I see, including most analysts, etc.

Most were giving Wentz the benefit of the doubt for at least the first 8 or so games. 

Now, just about anyone outside this blog (at least 80%) of credible sources believe there are some major issues going on with Wentz.   They might not all agree on the cause but just about everyone agrees that there are issues.

 

 

i have a newsflash for you: you pander to people, you refuse to actually accept you defend doug like wentz apologist do and when you write things you refuse to discuss anything other than wentz and people throw facts in your face and you eventually concede that they might have a point even though your next 10 posts proves you didn’t mean it. Say whatever you want it’s the truth. You just can’t handle the truth. 

Yes the same people in tate that also wanted to trade mcnabb after the tampa bay game in 02 are the ones you really want giving you likes and agree with. trust me I’ve gone out in tate. It’s the same guys who did that. Or the same tate who didn’t want to move on from Bradford  or the same ones who wanted Vick over foles originally. Yes the those ones who continue fly by the seat of their pants are the ones who agree with you.

Another newsflash for you as well. There’s a lot of people who have been criticizing Doug pederson. Caplan, mosher, sheil kapadia (covers the entire nfl), Jaws, Brian westbrook, multiple other players such a tra Thomas in his podcast. Yet you ignore those guys when they tell you Doug pederson not doing a good job. you make up the deflections on why it’s not doug‘s fault. No it is also Doug’s  fault like it’s carson’s. Just like it is a large part Carson. You can’t grasp or want to except doug is as responsible as Carson.  Like I can post all 22 pictures for you showing how dumb it is to run that play with the offensive line that you have. Slow developing plays are not going to work this offensive line unless you continue to move the pocket. Aaron Rodgers has like 15 plays of 1 to 6 yards and getting the ball out fast. You know how many to Eagles had in the last game according to the athletic less than 6. And you think you know more them. Because we had a conversation  when I brought this up in the past and he said he doesn’t know what he’s talking about right now. So the guy who played in the league tell you something and get you no more than them because you said at home and watched it on the TV . 

And on top of all this you seem to think you’re a medical doctor where you can diagnose people with things and you have no information except do you went to WebMD and look up research articles to make a diagnosis even though you do not have his medical records or do the test to know if that’s true. Yet you seem to think that was definitively factual. You said it yourself it was factually true. So on top of knowing more than people who play the game and people cover it for a living you also apparently know more of the people in the medical field such as myself and such as Hazleton

Welp. 

56 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Disagree with last part. Lane was still terrific when he played this year. And while I get they are in their 30’s that isn’t a death sentence for athletes anymore. If Brooks & Johnson performed like Jackson and Jeffrey.... sure get rid of them. Also understand "well they get hurt”, but again who on our current roster doesn’t? The younger guys get hurt just as much as the old men if not more. Plus, we all know how important Oline is ... if we get a great offer sure I’d entertain it. But, I’m not trading those guys for some mid rd draft pick. Just can’t do it. 

I definitely wouldn't use terrific. He's not been good. They shouldn't have put him on the field if his ankle wasn't ready. They've done that before to players only to get re-injured or injure something else as well

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Welp. 

The correct move. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Welp. 

I expected that to happen. Just didn't expect Doug to announce it so early. He's always about a competitive advantage even if there isn't one(training camp news)

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Welp. 

Cool that signals the end of either Doug or Wentz for next year.  Happy to move on from one of them next year.  No way they both are here that relationship is over. 

Wentz sucks and should have been benched weeks ago. 

14 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

80% of Wentz apologists.

And I have a newsflash for you: If some of you take the time to dwell outside of this blog, you will see that the vast majority of the rest of the world sees exactly what I see, including most analysts, etc.

Most were giving Wentz the benefit of the doubt for at least the first 8 or so games. 

Now, just about anyone outside this blog (at least 80%) of credible sources believe there are some major issues going on with Wentz.   They might not all agree on the cause but just about everyone agrees that there are issues.

 

 

That's not correct.

Pat Kirwan sees the issue as the injuries to the OL, lack of running the football, and injuries at WR

Gil Brandt sees the issue as the age of the OL, injuries, and lack of a run game

Howard Balzer sees the issue as no talent around Wentz, OL injuries, and poor drafting

 

Wentz himself is the least of the aforementioned issues

Lol watch that a-hole finally adjust his gameplan to help Hurts out though

1 hour ago, FlankingRight said:

Good QB’s make a bad team average. As simple as that. No one is saying that we should be a 11-5 team but damn not a 3 win team. 

Same can be said for good coaches.  I mean Stafford is a good QB that has plagued by bad coaches. Look at Matt Ryan.  Are they bad QBs?  How's that working? 

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I expected that to happen. Just didn't expect Doug to announce it so early. He's always about a competitive advantage even if there isn't one(training camp news)

It's all part of a secret plan to start Wentz. 

Hurts had to start or the entire roster would have revolted.

Playing the Saints as your 1st game though? Oh boy, that's ROUGH.

This also means we're likely going 2-2 to end the year.

This is Hurts team now. Carson we wish you the best 

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Welp. 

Wow....my issue would be it is hard to go back once this decision is made for this season. My best guess was to bring Wentz back after a quick benching, but this would be quite a statement going forward.

4 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

The correct move. 

I am just afraid that Hurts becomes a band-aid that Howie and Doug will say cures the team for next season.  Howie needs to go.  Doug needs to have a better staff.  Those 2 things should not be off the table because of Hurts' play.