3 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

It amazes me the amount of people who still want to put Wentz out there vs the Saints and think something different is going to happen.

This. Wentz had chances to look at least halfway decent against the Seahawks and Cowboys. When we played them they were the worst pass defenses in the league and he still looked unwatchable 

Now some of y’all want him to go out there vs the Saints and think he’s going to turn into Montana 

2 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Why?  On what basis?  I'm not giving up on Wentz but he's been beyond awful.  He needs to sit.

If he was playing OK and was benched then he has a reason to complain.  But how can he justify asking for a trade now when he's been terrible?

Wentz's prospects for employment outside of the Eagles are orders of magnitude better than are those of Howie and Doug.

I'm not counting Doug going back to coaching high school as an employment opportunity in this context.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Sounds like a round-about way of saying, "I was stripped of my power and forced to start Hurts." 

Not that I necessarily disagree with the decision in a lost cause of a season, but the process here is as disjointed and confusing as always.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No problem. Enjoy the rest of your day filled with your deflections and narratives. 

Were you one of the people that said Doug didn't want to start Hurts because it would show that the offensive issues are his fault? 

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Important: Jeff McLane is bad at this job.

He really isn’t. 

34 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Good for him  

And if facing the top team in the NFC won't bring clarity to the issues on offense, I'm not sure what will. 

And all the conspiracy theorists that assumed Doug didn't want to start Hurts because could show that the major issues with the offense have to do with him and the rest of the team....well, wrong again. 

Another great narrative and definitive  assumption made with little fact by you lol. So knowing the Saints have the best defense in the league and if the offense struggles he still is OK because he put a rookie quarterback out there against the best defense in the league. Yup definitely team wrong. That doesn’t look like doug has a built in excuse for why the offense would struggle against the saints with hurts.... but another great narrative by you. You have really proven it was lurie or howie who didn’t want to play hurts.... riiiight 

Lurie gonna clean house. He’ll be quiet for a few more weeks ... when Black Monday arrives Doug, Howie and the entire coaching staff will be given pink slips. 

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Sounds like a round-about way of saying, "I was stripped of my power and forced to start Hurts." 

Not that I necessarily disagree with the decision in a lost cause of a season, but the process here is as disjointed and confusing as always.

I've never seen a team just completely fail at the easiest possible things to do. But here we are, again.

4 minutes ago, AzBirdGang said:

I think we could easily lose out. This team is a mess. 

This could be the silver lining of going to hurts. Give Wentz an off-season to get over his mental block without also rehabbing an injury that is almost inevitable the way he’s playing. For better or for worse I look at his contract and all I see is that we are stuck with him for at least a season or two. I just don’t see a viable way out. Worst case is he does an ACL again last game of the season and then has to spend the offseason rehabbing. Protect him, go to hurts, drop all the dead weight we can, go into the draft with as much firepower as possible, and try to come back fresh next season. 
 

it’s not the ideal, it’s just what there is. I’m not going to get lost in some fantasy of trading Wentz on this contract or being competitive with 90 mil in dead space. 

33 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Were you one of the people that said Doug didn't want to start Hurts because it would show that the offensive issues are his fault? 

So what do you think the built-in narrative is right now for Doug? Well we had a rookie quarterback going to get the number one defense so that’s reason enough why the offense would struggle. Interesting right. So now if the offense struggles he can say well he was a rookie quarterback going to get the best defense in the league. Interesting how we pick the time a period of going to hurt when he did. I’m not earlier like three weeks ago when he could’ve pulled Carson against a bad Dallas defense or seattle defense where hurts should have easier time having success.

Also if we remember what I said if I was going to start Jalen hurts if I were doug I would start him against an easier defense because it could make me look like my offense is capable or good. Meanwhile we’re starting him against the number one defense so my offense continues to struggle at least I have the built-in excuse what was the number one defense we were playing. Meanwhile if hurts was to start against Dallas who ranks near the bottom of the league and they struggle it goes right back on doug

what i last thing i said to you in that conversation was this and you have yet to definitively prove that isn’t the case either way. Interesting you like to make definitive facts without proof. Again routine problem from you.

On 12/2/2020 at 2:50 PM, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

  

You want my real opinion i think lurie is really the one ultimately behind it. I think that mosher story was BS, which kind of turned out to be true that it was. I think lurie understands getting Carson wentz right for the future of this franchise is more valuable to this franchise then anything that comes from the rest of the season.

 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Another great narrative and definitive  assumption made with little fact by you lol. So knowing the Saints have the best defense in the league and if the offense struggles he still is OK because he put a rookie quarterback out there against the best defense in the league. Yup definitely team wrong. That doesn’t look like doug has a built in excuse for why the offense would struggle against the saints with hurts.... but another great narrative by you. You have really proven it was howie who didn’t want to play hurts.... riiiight 

I am willing to bet it is a Lurie decision

Me wanting Hurts to look great, but also wanting a loss for Chase or Sewell

 

6 minutes ago, AzBirdGang said:

49ers and colts would be interested. 

Imagine him going to Indy, seeing that Reich was the answer to the question why we won the Superbowl, and watching him get back to dominating.

A lot of folks would have a lot to answer for.

Imagine what Shanahan would do with him under center, Nick Mullens looked good under the bright lights of Monday night.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

Me wanting Hurts to look great, but also wanting a loss for Chase or Sewell

 

Same.

Then I remembered we're going to see Jim Schwartz vs. Sean Payton.

7 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Were you one of the people that said Doug didn't want to start Hurts because it would show that the offensive issues are his fault? 

Those issues are going to be on display against a top 5 defense this weekend.  Dennis Allen and his crew are gonna eat.

1 minute ago, aptosbird said:

I am willing to bet it is a Lurie decision

Which in one of the discussions we had I said it ultimately came down to Jeffrey lurie making a decision. That was my last post to him when we had the convo. And it was because I think Jeff knows that the biggest thing he wanted to get from the end of this year was getting Carson fixed because he knows how valuable getting Carson wentz back to where he was is for the franchise going forward with the massive amount of cap invest over the next couple years.

Just now, RLC said:

Same.

Then I remembered we're going to see Jim Schwartz vs. Sean Payton.

And Doug Pederson/Jalen Hurts vs Dennis Allen

👀

25 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Lol here comes 30 runs for the first time all year! 

Remember when the talk was Miles Sanders is gonna be a 3 down back?

Lol. We’re such a joke.

This is a suicide start for Hurts against the Saints defense. Definition of being thrown to the wolves, but I don't think the goal for this team is to win games the rest of the season so it is what it is. 

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I mean that would be the Eagles way this year. Hence why Jason peters is somehow still on the football field. 

Jamon Brown is still in the team and being practice squad protected weekly. 

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Those issues are going to be on display against a top 5 defense this weekend.  Dennis Allen and his crew are gonna eat.

It’s convenient that the Eagles are playing the rookie quarterback against the Saints who have the number one defense in the league. So if the offense doesn’t work the built-in excuse is going to be well you were playing the number one defense in the league and we had a rookie quarterback out there so it was gonna be hard for any offense to have success in this league with all that. 

17 minutes ago, eaglesflyers#1 said:

There’s zero reason to not fire Howie today. 4 years, 128mm to a QB you mortgaged the future to move up for and is now benched for a 2nd round rookie.

QB factory

If this decision comes from Lurie, I am hoping quite a few heads will roll over the next few weeks

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

QB factory

The Eagles are the laughingstocks of the NFL.

4 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Jamon Brown is still in the team and being practice squad protected weekly. 

He was cut yesterday morning