5 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

As GM, Howie Roseman's biggest mistake has been maintaining the big picture of how the roster is built and maintained.  From the trading of draft picks, to FA contracts, to extensions, he's accountable for it all and that has been his biggest failure. Was there a plan?

Further, has the GM supported the HC with all his decisions and allowed the best possible team to be put our each game week/year?  3 years after a Super Bowl and I think we've met a place where it's hard to say yes.

There has been a lot of smoke and mirrors and self sniffing, but frankly, the Eagles roster and cap position is a massive mess and no amount of hiring from the Ravens can get away from the fact that the person responsible for personnel has dumped the Eagles in cap hell and flopped about from philosophy to another trying to find the right mix.

2017 was great, but it was 2017. What have you done for me lately?

Yup. He’s also beyond stale. Almost all his solutions are just dipping into the same well. Bring Curry, Peters, Mills, McLeod, Jackson, Howard, Sudfeld, Ridgeway, Rodgers, Clement, Ajayi, Darby, Jernigan, Matthews, Sproles, Gibson and Sullivan back. Also sign a guy your just going to cut midway through the season and a high priced DT from outside the organization. There’s your plan for every offseason.

I thnk the Dillard hate basically stems from two things, one the belief that all 1st rd picks should be instant stars, two his putrid performance at RT, a position he hardly practiced at and almost never played in college - and it takes time for OL to adjust from one side to the other (all movements are mirror image). Next year is the litmus test, with time to bulk up, adjust to NFL speed and perfect his technique, he should be an above average starting OT in his 3rd season. Of course, if Lane is healthy he may have to learn how to play LG.

Mailata got benched b/c he struggled for a couple games after a good start, Peters outplayed him for two games then fell apart, which lends credence to the turf toe excuse. Since Mailata returned to the lineup he raised his game a notch, which shows that for young players, at times it helps to sit on the bench and watch and absorb before returning to action.

8 minutes ago, austinfan said:

I thnk the Dillard hate basically stems from two things, one the belief that all 1st rd picks should be instant stars, two his putrid performance at RT, a position he hardly practiced at and almost never played in college - and it takes time for OL to adjust from one side to the other (all movements are mirror image). Next year is the litmus test, with time to bulk up, adjust to NFL speed and perfect his technique, he should be an above average starting OT in his 3rd season. Of course, if Lane is healthy he may have to learn how to play LG.

 

You should be a beat writer for the Eagles.  This makes a lot more sense than the "mentally weak" conspiracy theories some like to float around. 

37 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

not obviously to those who reported... these are the same guys telling us how great the Eagles WRs were a few years ago, right?   

Uh huh. He played so well they decided to cross train Pryor at LT after Dillard’s injury and then gave in to Peters’ demand for more money. They also worked out Cordy Glenn.

But sure, he probably wasn’t bad in camp. We’ll go with that. 

Kempski and BLG gave their chances Howie, Doug, and Wentz are back next year. Not based on inside info, just opinion.

Kempski surprisingly gave it 40% Howie is back. He said he thinks from talking to people and how embarrassed Lurie has been with this season and how hands-on he is with the team that he will pull the plug on Howie at the end of the season. BLG put it at 60%.

BLG thinks less than 20% Doug is back next year.

Both think it's highly likely Wentz is back regardless.

 

They said a couple things I agree with too. If it's announced Howie is returning, they'd almost prefer Doug comes back too, because if not, it would just be so embarrassing that Doug is made the scapegoat and Howie after all his failures gets to pick the next head coach.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yup. He’s also beyond stale. Almost all his solutions are just dipping into the same well. Bring Curry, Peters, Mills, McLeod, Jackson, Howard, Sudfeld, Ridgeway, Rodgers, Clement, Ajayi, Darby, Jernigan, Matthews, Sproles, Gibson and Sullivan back. Also sign a guy your just going to cut midway through the season and a high priced DT from outside the organization. There’s your plan for every offseason.

Agree, and further, you can tell that Howie, unfortunately for him today, has grown up in an organisation with no overall philosophy and not worked elsewhere to gain other points of view, so he has nothing to fall back on other than your post.  The Ravens,  Steelers, Pats etc, have made plenty of draft and FA mistakes, but you know what their core philosophy is. Even Dallas too.

There comes a time in all organisations that the senior management have to take the fall. You can change managers and styles, but if the person making the strategy is struggling and the changes you make aren't working, then something is fundamentally wrong.

6 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

You should be a beat writer for the Eagles.  This makes a lot more sense than the "mentally weak" conspiracy theories some like to float around. 

there was a story from the athletic with his father confirming he nearly quit football due to mentally breaking down in HS and college as a freshman and he didn’t love the game as much as people think he does. That wasn’t a conspiracy his dad said it to the athletic. Look it up it’s there. Kapadia wrote it detailing his past. 

Just now, Sack that QB said:

Kempski and BLG gave their chances Howie, Doug, and Wentz are back next year. Not based on inside info, just opinion.

Kempski surprisingly gave it 40% Howie is back. He said he thinks from talking to people and how embarrassed Lurie has been with this season and how hands-on he is with the team that he will pull the plug on Howie at the end of the season. BLG put it at 60%.

BLG thinks less than 20% Doug is back next year.

Both think it's highly likely Wentz is back regardless.

 

They said a couple things I agree with too. If it's announced Howie is returning, they'd almost prefer Doug comes back too, because if not, it would just be so embarrassing that Doug is made the scapegoat and Howie after all his failures gets to pick the next head coach.

Wentz is the most fixable part of the triumvirate as he is the lowest on the totem pole.   The others are what they are now

14 minutes ago, austinfan said:

I thnk the Dillard hate basically stems from two things, one the belief that all 1st rd picks should be instant stars

Which is funny coming from the fans of the organization that rarely drafts instants starts in the first round.

5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

You should be a beat writer for the Eagles.  This makes a lot more sense than the "mentally weak" conspiracy theories some like to float around. 

Yes, it’s a giant conspiracy theory involving a guy that twice cried in practice and admitted in the days leading up to the game that playing RT was too hard. 

Give me a break  

 

Just now, ManuManu said:

Yes, it’s a giant conspiracy theory involving a guy that twice cried in practice and admitted in the days leading up to the game that playing RT was too hard. 

Give me a break  

 

Makes that take even worse kapadia did a story on the athletic on dillard about his past where he has his past coaches and father confirming past mental breakdowns which almost had him quit football in HS and college. 

1 minute ago, UK Eagle said:

Wentz is the most fixable part of the triumvirate as he is the lowest on the totem pole.   The others are what they are now

A couple things about this.

If by fixing Wentz, you mean just improving him from what he is now, I agree. If by fixing him you mean getting him back to the 2017 level where he's an MVP candidate I disagree. I think that Wentz is long gone, never coming back.

I think Doug and Wentz are relatively close on who I trust to be fixed more. I think both are kind of in the same boat where they aren't as good as they once were, but both would do better with better talent around them, however, neither are making mediocre or subpar talent look better than it is at this point.

Howie I think is just a poison right now and needs to go ASAP.

Your score is: 40003 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 6: DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama (A-)
Round 2 Pick 6: Asante Samuel, CB, Florida State (A)
Round 3 Pick 6: Charles Snowden, DE/OLB, Virginia (A)
Round 5 Pick 5: Alaric Jackson, OT, Iowa (A+)
Round 5 Pick 6: Ambry Thomas, CB, Michigan (A+)
Round 6 Pick 6: Brenton Cox, DE/OLB, Florida (A+)
Round 7 Pick 6: Braydon Johnson, WR, Oklahoma State (A+)

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Uh huh. He played so well they decided to cross train Pryor at LT after Dillard’s injury and then gave in to Peters’ demand for more money. They also worked out Cordy Glenn.

But sure, he probably wasn’t bad in camp. We’ll go with that. 

Missing the point.  You are giving them credence because they said it.  Like they've been right all the time.  Remember when JJAW was tearing it up in camp and in the PS before the 2019 season... yeah, that was fun.

 

Clearly the Eagles weren't ready to go to Mailata.  But, when these fools in the media say things that they saw at practice, I generally take it with a grain of salt.  I've heard a lot about guys who are playing great in practice and then can't do anything in a game - remember Deontay Burnett?  Or was it also Paul Turner, that they were hyping?  Practice all-star!  In a game though, Mr. Invisible.   So, you'll forgive me for not buying everything they say as if it were gospel truth.

6 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Agree, and further, you can tell that Howie, unfortunately for him today, has grown up in an organisation with no overall philosophy and not worked elsewhere to gain other points of view, so he has nothing to fall back on other than your post.  The Ravens,  Steelers, Pats etc, have made plenty of draft and FA mistakes, but you know what their core philosophy is. Even Dallas too.

There comes a time in all organisations that the senior management have to take the fall. You can change managers and styles, but if the person making the strategy is struggling and the changes you make aren't working, then something is fundamentally wrong.

But what about his whirlwind tour during his year in exile?

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Missing the point.  You are giving them credence because they said it.  Like they've been right all the time.  Remember when JJAW was tearing it up in camp and in the PS before the 2019 season... yeah, that was fun.

 

Clearly the Eagles weren't ready to go to Mailata.  But, when these fools in the media say things that they saw at practice, I generally take it with a grain of salt.  I've heard a lot about guys who are playing great in practice and then can't do anything in a game - remember Deontay Burnett?  Or was it also Paul Turner, that they were hyping?  Practice all-star!  In a game though, Mr. Invisible.   So, you'll forgive me for not buying everything they say as if it were gospel truth.

You don’t have to buy everything they say. Just couple it with everything that followed those very reports. His poor play was all but confirmed. 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Missing the point.  You are giving them credence because they said it.  Like they've been right all the time.  Remember when JJAW was tearing it up in camp and in the PS before the 2019 season... yeah, that was fun.

 

Clearly the Eagles weren't ready to go to Mailata.  But, when these fools in the media say things that they saw at practice, I generally take it with a grain of salt.  I've heard a lot about guys who are playing great in practice and then can't do anything in a game - remember Deontay Burnett?  Or was it also Paul Turner, that they were hyping?  Practice all-star!  In a game though, Mr. Invisible.   So, you'll forgive me for not buying everything they say as if it were gospel truth.

I think this. And they only get limited portions of practice. I tend to believe the eagles if they want to push a narrative/spin will show case some guys as well at times with the media when they get some time to watch which based off reports has dwindled over time. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

there was a story from the athletic with his father confirming he nearly quit football due to mentally breaking down and he didn’t love the game as much as people think he does. That wasn’t a conspiracy his dad said it and the athletic had a laundry list of his past. 

That's fair enough.  And if it's true, there's likely treatment options for him.  This reminds me of the story of Shawn Andrews as well.  It's not all that uncommon, given our very own history here.  Both he and Brooks dealt with certain mental health issues but both were able to overcome them. (At least for some time in Andrews' case).

But the last thing folks in the media should run with is saying things like, 'He's mentally weak".  That type of stuff is likely what made Shawn Andrews eventually retire from the NFL. If I remember correctly, he posted some sort of video online alluding to that being the case.  And it's sad in the sense that he could have likely gone down in history as one of the best offensive linemen ever for this team. 

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yes, it’s a giant conspiracy theory involving a guy that twice cried in practice and admitted in the days leading up to the game that playing RT was too hard. 

Give me a break  

 

Read some of my previous posts on the subject as to why it's not "wise" to run with stories like that, especially if someone doesn't know all the facts. 

Just now, Ace Nova said:

Read some of my previous posts on the subject as to why it's not "wise" to run with stories like that, especially if someone doesn't know all the facts. 

I’ll pass. 

1 minute ago, toughfighter83 said:

Your score is: 40003 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 6: DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama (A-)
Round 2 Pick 6: Asante Samuel, CB, Florida State (A)
Round 3 Pick 6: Charles Snowden, DE/OLB, Virginia (A)
Round 5 Pick 5: Alaric Jackson, OT, Iowa (A+)
Round 5 Pick 6: Ambry Thomas, CB, Michigan (A+)
Round 6 Pick 6: Brenton Cox, DE/OLB, Florida (A+)
Round 7 Pick 6: Braydon Johnson, WR, Oklahoma State (A+)

You forgot to put Genard Avery in there in the 4th round. Boosts it up to an A+ when you add studs who you can count on to dress every week like that on the cheap.

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

That's fair enough.  And if it's true, there's likely treatment options for him.  This reminds me of the story of Shawn Andrews as well.  It's not all that uncommon, given our very own history here.  Both he and Brooks dealt with certain mental health issues but both were able to overcome them. (At least for some time in Andrews' case).

But the last thing folks in the media should run with is saying things like, 'He's mentally weak".  That type of stuff is likely what made Shawn Andrews eventually retire from the NFL. If I remember correctly, he posted some sort of video online alluding to that being the case.  And it's sad in the sense that he could have likely gone down in history as one of the best offensive linemen ever for this team. 

I don’t disagree about calling him mentally weak. However i was just making the point there was credence to the point he might have broke down in practice and began crying like what was reported and the eagles didn’t exactly do their homework to know this might have been an issue previously in HS and college. 

and there’s no reasons can’t turn it around. However i think to overlook his past and then have that story come out doesn’t make it just the media looking to bury him. It might just be his past has shown situation might have legs to it and might be a cause for concern.  

7 minutes ago, toughfighter83 said:

Your score is: 40003 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 6: DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama (A-)
Round 2 Pick 6: Asante Samuel, CB, Florida State (A)
Round 3 Pick 6: Charles Snowden, DE/OLB, Virginia (A)
Round 5 Pick 5: Alaric Jackson, OT, Iowa (A+)
Round 5 Pick 6: Ambry Thomas, CB, Michigan (A+)
Round 6 Pick 6: Brenton Cox, DE/OLB, Florida (A+)
Round 7 Pick 6: Braydon Johnson, WR, Oklahoma State (A+)

Damn I like this 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I’ll pass. 

No worries.  I'll quote this for prosperity and show it to you when Dillard becomes a player. 

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

A couple things about this.

If by fixing Wentz, you mean just improving him from what he is now, I agree. If by fixing him you mean getting him back to the 2017 level where he's an MVP candidate I disagree. I think that Wentz is long gone, never coming back.

I think Doug and Wentz are relatively close on who I trust to be fixed more. I think both are kind of in the same boat where they aren't as good as they once were, but both would do better with better talent around them, however, neither are making mediocre or subpar talent look better than it is at this point.

Howie I think is just a poison right now and needs to go ASAP.

Improving Carson by having a harder QB coach and in all honesty, having a sports psychologist to help him deal with the injuries, being a Dad and in Philly in general, is a good start.  He may never get to 2017 again, but he's still a better QB that Goff will ever be and that is plenty good enough IMHO.  He needs the pressure removing from him but also pushed to accept what is there and live the system. 

If Aaron Rodgers can work with LaFleur and flourish, then there is no reason Carson can't with AN Other.  An organisation like the Colts would be delirious to get a talent like Wentz in the house.

9 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

But what about his whirlwind tour during his year in exile?

It can help, but you are, who you are until you get completely humbled and are forced to look inwards.  A year on full pay in a corner office and paid to jump around the world isn't a hardship.

It's paid vacation.

I think most of us would have loved it.