2 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Is the goal of the game to win the game? Or to pile up WR yards?

Because so many teams win games nowadays with bad WR play. I mean just look at the top teams in the League.  The one common factor is they have no good receivers and are at the bottom of the League in terms of passing attack.  RB is clearly the most important position in the NFL. 

1 minute ago, Arsenal79 said:

You confuse vanity metrics with actual results.

QB running for 100 yards every week is not a sustainable model.  See Taysom Hill.

3 minutes ago, Br3 said:

Lol what about peters? Did he ask for less money yesterday

 

Yes that was a silly playcall. Draw something up for kamara, zone read or something. They put the ball in hills hands like he was Brees. 

I couldn’t believe that was their play call out of the timeout. I thought it was similar to atlanta in the nfc divisional game where they basically eliminated half the field by calling the play they run. Granted atlanta still threw it to julio who had a chance. 

Well we might have taken ourselves out of the Jamar Chase range in the draft.  

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Because the genius coach is trotting out Alshon Jeffrey, who will not be here next year.

Part of the issue is that. He also has had some bad drops and he like reagor has had some sloppy routes. He needs refinement in his route running but I’m still not putting him in the boat he’s a bonafide starter. I still think you are looking at a WR corps where you are hoping 2-3 guys can be and none that you can state as fact are. Again this goes back to what i talked about a couple months back their WR corps even with a good QB is bottom third of the league. 

Just now, 315Eagles said:

Well we might have taken ourselves out of the Jamar Chase range in the draft.  

we're going to the playoffs, aren't we?

Devastating win.  All because Payton and staff seemed totally clueless as to what the Eagles were obviously going to do, and incapable of stopping a college read option offense.  With their vaunted defense.  Flat out embarrassing.  They don't deserve the bye.  I hope the NO fraudulents lose in the first round.  I guess a running QB is the simple answer against them.  They have no problem beating a Tom Brady or Matt Ryan.  If they face Kyler Murray or Russell Wilson in round 1, store this away as a betting opportunity.  

Dreams of a top 5 pick and a mandate for the necessary change are now fleeting.

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2020/12/14/22173977/nfl-draft-order-nfc-playoff-picture-eagles-update-standings-jalen-hurts-chances-odds-pick-pederson

I'm confident the next team we play will have some film to look at and have the obvious plan in place, but this win was unexpected.  Especially with the quarterback converting first downs the same way every time with no adjustments.  He throws for 167 yards and wins?   The alleged top run defense had no answers?  You were worried about him throwing all over you or beating you downfield?  Malcolm where was your revenge??

I know many are excited about Hurts.  I will need a lot more evidence to change my opinion on his viability as an NFL starting QB on a contending team.  I think the adjustments made in upcoming games will make him look quite different.  Nothing against him personally, I just don't believe in him based on watching him so many times before.  Maybe he proves me wrong.  We will see.

Unless and until that happens, unnecessary wins now are setbacks.  Future success remains dependent on significantly increasing talent to include adding true difference makers, along with getting new leadership in place that have the ability to run a draft and pick players in an effective, or at least competent, way.

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

.  Changing over to Hurts and thinking that fixes this team ignores this bigger issue. 

I think the "bigger issues" that everyone feared, aren't as "big" as some think...especially with elevated QB play.  I've been saying it from DAY 1.  The QB is the most important position in this offense.  If you have poor QB play it absolutely, without question, affects the rest of the offense. 

It affects the offensive line. (Zero sacks yesterday, btw).  It affects the running game because if you are behind the entire game, you will naturally pass more.  It affects the receivers for obvious reasons, etc etc etc.  And all of a sudden, the play calling and play design looks extremely better.  Do you think that's a coincidence?

And it was done against the best defense in the league.

 

 

3 minutes ago, John_C said:

I know many are excited about Hurts.  I will need a lot more evidence to change my opinion on his viability as an NFL starting QB on a contending team.  I think the adjustments made in upcoming games will make him look quite different.  Nothing against him personally, I just don't believe in him based on watching him so many times before.  Maybe he proves me wrong.  We will see.

Unless and until that happens, unnecessary wins now are setbacks.  Future success remains dependent on significantly increasing talent to include adding true difference makers, along with getting new leadership in place that have the ability to run a draft and pick players in an effective, or at least competent, way.

This is exactly where I am at.

5 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

His team doesn’t look so awful with competent QB play.  Imagine that.

Like many other games this season the offense was competent for moments but awful nonetheless.   Hurts was fun, really nice play to Alshon.  Sanders run was great. 

Fumble in our own territory at the end of the game to give them a chance just gets swept under the carpet.  7 2nd half points, 4-13 on 3rd down, 167 passing yards, 5.6 yard per catch.  For some reason the Eagles just like to draft fumbling QBs.

20 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yep.  He started to flash about 6 weeks ago.  

Its looking more and more like he was still coming back from his injury/playing himself into shape in the earlier part of the season.  A good sign for sure.  We can't afford anymore stupid contracts.

The Washers would rather lose with Wentz than win with Hurts.

Wentz Washers talking fumbles is mildly amusing as well. Lmao

7 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Like many other games this season the offense was competent for moments but awful nonetheless.   Hurts was fun, really nice play to Alshon.  Sanders run was great. 

Fumble in our own territory at the end of the game to give them a chance just gets swept under the carpet.  7 2nd half points, 4-13 on 3rd down, 167 passing yards, 5.6 yard per catch.  For some reason the Eagles just like to draft fumbling QBs.

Eagles were also had luck on their side in that game. the Saints corner had stone hands otherwise he has a pick around midfield and he likely returns it to the house if he stays in bounds with it. The second half the Saints made adjustments and started playing like they have for much of the last 5 weeks. It wasn’t a coincidence the yards went from 299 to 104 in the second half. Or that hurts rush yards went from 74 to 32. 

43 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Elliott has been great from 30-49 this year. He’s 10-10. It’s from 50+ and 20-29. He’s 1-3 from 20-29 and 2-5 from 50+. Lately he’s also been botching extra points as well.

 I feel kickers just randomly have these years where they just tail off and then the following year are fine or seem some improvement back to their normal unless you have like Justin tucker who’s the ultimate in consistency. Daniel Bailey was one of the best with Dallas. Was at 89.5 percent for 6 years. Then dropped to 75 back to back. Then back up to 93 and yesterday he’s missing 4 FGs. Lutz last two years 89 and 93 percent. He’s 80 this year. Zuerlein had three years of 86, 95 and 87 then fell all the way to 73.

 

I am incredibly impressed that you were able to produce these numbers 👏. I basically know nothing about any kickers (other than their names) for any team outside the birds 😄

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Eagles were also had luck on their side in that game. the Saints corner had stone hands otherwise he has a pick around midfield and he likely returns it to the house if he stays in bounds with it. The second half the Saints made adjustments and started playing like they have for much of the last 5 weeks. 

Second half, without the running out the clock series, Eagles ran 26 plays for 108 yards, and got 1 TD from a turn over at mid field.

Just now, QBhunter58 said:

I am incredibly impressed that you were able to produce these numbers 👏. I basically know nothing about any kickers (other than their names) for any team outside the birds 😄

I went and looked it up last night. I’ve been curious because it feels like kickers randomly just have years where they are bad after a couple of years of being good. Like Justin tucker is really a rarity in the league to be consistently great for that long. I give koo on atlanta a ton of credit his first year in the league he was not good. He’s really been great over the last two years for atlanta. But i wouldn’t be shocked if next year he tails off. Something about the position that even good kickers just sporadically have these types of years. 

12 minutes ago, John_C said:

I'm confident the next team we play will have some film to look at and have the obvious plan in place, but this win was unexpected.  Especially with the quarterback converting first downs the same way every time with no adjustments.  He throws for 167 yards and wins?   The alleged top run defense had no answers?  You were worried about him throwing all over you or beating you downfield?  Malcolm where was your revenge??

I still don't understand why New Orleans stayed in 2-high. To be fair to them, that's their base coverage. Against us, they should have been in single-high, Cover 1 Man or Cover 3. Arizona is a very multiple defense and has multiple players that can spy (Baker, Reddick, Simmons). They drafted all those players to combat Russell Wilson.

If Hurts plays well against Arizona, I think we really have something. 

Fulgoats tweet says a lot 

16 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

 

13 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Hilarious.  Reagor set a career high with 55 yards.  Jefferson has 1,000 receiving yards, has 5 100 yard games, and has 8 games with more yards than Reagor's career high yesterday.

Why does ESP have a job and why does anyone bother to quote him here?

Hurts wasn't amazing.  He was good, not great.  Used his legs which was expected (seems to everyone except the Saint' D) and played smart within the system.

The Hargrave comment is the only one that's totally fine.  Yeah, he's coming on lately probably because he's fully fit for the first time this season.

Really?  Alshon scored a TD.  Who cares about a guy that won't be here next season and is taking away snaps from a guy who will be here and can contribute more than he can.

I love Mailata and really hope he turns into a Pro Bowl level beast for us for the next 8-10 years, but he wasn't great.  He got pushed back a few times and beat around the end once.  He was solid and still with loads of room to improve, which I hope he's given the opportunity to do so.

Wow.  ONE game.  One game Reagor produces more than Jefferson.  Reagor still hasn't come close to 100 yards in a game and only has 1 receiving TD and ESP wants to compare production?  As 4for4 would say, "Idiot".

There should be an EMB ban on ESP.

 

1 hour ago, RLC said:

I don't get the Schwartz anger this morning. Defense gave up 21 points losing 3 DBs in the game, meaning Schwartz had only 1 of his top 6 CBs. Jackson went out too. The defense had 2 turnovers. Realistically, what did you want? 

The hate for Schwartz ha always been ridiculous. 

People whined yesterday that he never adjusts. We’re primarily a man coverage team. Yesterday we played a ton of zone. People complain just to complain. 

4 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Fulgoats tweet says a lot 

What tweet is that ??

3 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Fulgoats tweet says a lot 

 

About as much as the Cox tweet right and the Kelce interview from the previous week? 

3 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

Hurts wasn't amazing.  He was good, not great.  Used his legs which was expected (seems to everyone except the Saint' D) and played smart within the system.

 

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Second half, without the running out the clock series, Eagles ran 26 plays for 108 yards, and got 1 TD from a turn over at mid field.

i made the point last night the total yardage went from 299 in the first half to 104 in the second half. Hurts rushing yards went from 74 to 32.

The Saints did a good job adjusting to what the eagles did in the first half. Frankly i thought they did a terrible job in the first half containing Hurts which eventually led to the dam breaking on Sanders run. If you go back to when the eagles got the ball at the four i want to say it was the second play but if Hurts hands the ball off to sanders he might have been gone there too as they started to become more concerned with him running. The Saints early were over committing to sanders to start. Which i think is the gameplan you go with but you can’t forget Hurts has the ability to run. It’s why he had 7 carries for 14 yards.  Hurts ability to run and keep the RPO burned them and Sanders took it to the house. But really on the other 13 carries sanders had 33 yards. It was really once they caontained hurts better the eagles offense had some issues. 

I was Happy that Josh Sweat and Barnett both looked good last night. Derek Barnett took himself out of a few plays, but overall he was around the QB all game, a very BG game from him. Sweats stats speak for themselves, good to see him provide a spark off the bench.