Just now, D-Shiznit said:

 

Class

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

What did you do ??

I told someone to F off. I also called them a POS.

Both were warranted. 

23 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

Me too, and The Kevin Kolb Bandwagon, and the Vick Bandwagon. 

 

 

I was never on the Kolb bandwagon. Arm strength was poor, decision making was worse. 
Vick had 1 great season for us. 
Was on the McNabb bandwagon for sure.

1 minute ago, Asg 15 said:

Class

If Rodney wins the Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year Award, it would be the 2nd time in 3 years that an Eagle won that award, not sure that's ever been done before. Great testament to the kind of character our team has had.

13 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

Dude, what are you doing?

Try:

You've chosen to ignore content by Arsenal79. 

You know what they say.  You can't teach an old dog new tricks. 😘

2 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

 

I've always liked McLeod.  Low-key guy, who comes in and does his job all week long and on game day.  The guy has been one of the more solid pieces of the defense since he's been here.  I hope he has a fast recovery and comes back strong!

4 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

I told someone to F off. I also called them a POS.

Both were warranted. 

As long as it was justified.

Just now, Casey @ Bat said:

I was never on the Kolb bandwagon. Arm strength was poor, decision making was worse. 
Vick had 1 great season for us. 
Was on the McNabb bandwagon for sure.

Ohh I was on the McNabb wagon BEFORE the draft. I knew they needed a QB and was willing to take a chance with McNabb. IN his first season he put a shake and Bake move on one of Wash's safeties and by passed him into the end zone, and I was all in. Till....

 

The Superbowl, when he literally barfed on the field from the pressure, I was done. Still supported him, but thought he had taken us as far as he was going to, especially with Reid reluctance to run the ball.

 

 

An all-time play

6 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Vick threw a pretty ball

YOu just never were sure of where it was going.

He showed himself once teams decided to just blitz the crap out of him. He just didn't seem to recognize simple pressure schemes like Double A gap blitzes. 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

I've always liked McLeod.  Low-key guy, who comes in and does his job all week long and on game day.  The guy has been one of the more solid pieces of the defense since he's been here.  I hope he has a fast recovery and comes back strong!

It's gonna be tough, unless he's a fast healer, usually a 10-12 month recovery process. Best case scenario he's back in November.

31 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Awesome. 4 years later vs a 2nd string TE playing QB. To late, He’s gotta go with the others. 

Yes, this is the first time in four years he adjusted his game plan. You guys have zero objectivity when it comes to analyzing Schwartz. It’s clear you don’t actually see the adjustments he does make, even the obvious ones. 

5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Right.  Reid wanted to teach McNabb how to become a pocket passer first and then to run primarily to avoid pressure/extend plays, etc.   By McNabb's 2nd season, he was already getting there.  Second season, not his rookie year.  These things take time.  And there's little doubt that Pederson will eventually start coaching Hurts in the same fashion.

lol   Please.  You are arguing something nonsensical here.   Reid never had a game plan for McNabb to do what Hurts did in this game.  NEVER.  Not in his rookie year, not in his 2nd year, not in his last year.  Reid never had a game plan that used McNabb's running ability as a primary part of what would make the offense go.   McNabb was given the green light to run out of the pocket whenever he felt he needed to, but that's night and day different from a game plan with a QB sweep, QB power, QB draw, etc.  At least a dozen of Hurts 18 carries were 100% by design.  Please find even 1 example of Reid running any of that with McNabb as a matter of the game plan.   He mixed in a QB draw every now and then, even a bootleg on occasion where McNabb would have a run/pass option.  But, he never ran a QB power or QB sweep with Donovan McNabb, and even if I am mistaken and he might have done it once in a game, he never did it repeatedly...  Watch the first play of the game again, and tell me if you ever saw Reid dial up something like that with McNabb in a game.   He didn't.  

13 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Context.  McNabb didn't start his first game of his career against the top ranked defense in the league either.  And RPO wasn't part of Reid's system back then either. 

Let's hope that we see an efficient downfield passing game.  

Just now, ManuManu said:

Yes, this is the first time in four years he adjusted his game plan. You guys have zero objectivity when it comes to analyzing Schwartz. It’s clear you don’t actually see the adjustments he does make, even the obvious ones. 

There are soooo many bad DCs in the league that having Schwartz is "fine". Is he top 10? No, but we can do far worse. Look at the Cowboys!

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

An all-time play

The defense gets some heat for the Super Bowl but they had more than their fair share of exceptional plays that day.  

Big P

1 minute ago, RLC said:

There are soooo many bad DCs in the league that having Schwartz is "fine". Is he top 10? No, but we can do far worse. Look at the Cowboys!

Jim Schwartz is pretty damn good when the offense isn't coughing up turnovers and short fields left and right.  We can and likely will do far worse than him.  Unfortunately it seems he'll be the scapegoat for this season since someone has to take the fall and his contract is up.

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

lol   Please.  You are arguing something nonsensical here.   Reid never had a game plan for McNabb to do what Hurts did in this game.  NEVER.  Not in his rookie year, not in his 2nd year, not in his last year.  Reid never had a game plan that used McNabb's running ability as a primary part of what would make the offense go.   McNabb was given the green light to run out of the pocket whenever he felt he needed to, but that's night and day different from a game plan with a QB sweep, QB power, QB draw, etc.  At least a dozen of Hurts 18 carries were 100% by design.  Please find even 1 example of Reid running any of that with McNabb as a matter of the game plan.   He mixed in a QB draw every now and then, even a bootleg on occasion where McNabb would have a run/pass option.  But, he never ran a QB power or QB sweep with Donovan McNabb, and even if I am mistaken and he might have done it once in a game, he never did it repeatedly...  Watch the first play of the game again, and tell me if you ever saw Reid dial up something like that with McNabb in a game.   He didn't.  

I never said he did.  I said context.  Reid has also adopted the RPO since the McNabb era and if he had a similar situation where he had to start his rookie QB against the top defense, who knows what he would have designed?

 Andy Reid is a genius-level head coach.  If he thinks that his rookie QB (and the offense) could benefit from designed runs in his first NFL start, you better believe that's what he would do. 

5 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

Ohh I was on the McNabb wagon BEFORE the draft. I knew they needed a QB and was willing to take a chance with McNabb. IN his first season he put a shake and Bake move on one of Wash's safeties and by passed him into the end zone, and I was all in. Till....

 

The Superbowl, when he literally barfed on the field from the pressure, I was done. Still supported him, but thought he had taken us as far as he was going to, especially with Reid reluctance to run the ball.

I don't think it was pressure.  I think he might have been hungover and the dehydration got him... 

 

That said... I was all aboard the McNabb train before the draft and thought the idea of drafting Ricky Williams was nonsensical.  I did, however, want to take the Ditka-deal, and trade back for the picks, because I thought McNabb might have been available a little later.  But, I think Andy was right to do what he did and just take McNabb.  You don't roll the dice on losing out on your QB if you have a targeted one and you can guarantee you get him.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Yes, this is the first time in four years he adjusted his game plan. You guys have zero objectivity when it comes to analyzing Schwartz. It’s clear you don’t actually see the adjustments he does make, even the obvious ones. 

I think the problem with Schwartz is that the team rarely is able to stop top QBs.  Now part of the problem has been the ineptitude of the offense.  I just can't remember the last time they made a top QB look bad.  I mean maybe it was last season in the game against Dak.  I just don't remember other times in the last 3 seasons.  

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Big P

I liked that kid coming out. He was a guy I’d always take in mock drafts in the late rounds. From what i remember doesn’t have great athleticism and needs to add strength but super smart and likely was going to be a center at the nfl level but could play guard as he did at bama. 

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

The defense gets some heat for the Super Bowl but they had more than their fair share of exceptional plays that day.  

They had that stop.  Jenkins killing Brandon Cooks and the Graham strip sack.  What were the other plays? Maybe Mills PBU on Gronkowski.  

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Big P

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

I never said he did.  I said context.  Reid has also adopted the RPO since the McNabb era and if he had a similar situation where he had to start his rookie QB against the top defense who knows what he would have designed?

 Andy Reid is a genius-level head coach.  If he thinks that his rookie QB (and the offense) could benefit from designed runs in his first NFL start, you better believe that's what he would do. 

Did he do it with Mahomes?   Nope.   You are whistling in the wind trying to justify the unsustainable game plan we saw from Doug... and you bring in McNabb, and try to make it fit your narrative.  Then, when its pointed out that it doesn't fit even remotely, you turn and argue something different.

 

Reid is a great coach and truly a QB whisperer.  But, he's never had a QB come into a game with the idea that he'd be running the ball a dozen times.  If he felt the QB needed to do that to be viable... he'd play a different QB until that QB could handle actually playing QB... i.e. he'd run with Doug Pederson over Donovan McNabb until McNabb had shown in practice that he could be a QB, not a RB who could throw.  Same way that he had Mahomes riding the pine until he was sure that Mahomes was ready to play QB and not be a glorified RB back there.  

 

We can end this here.  No need in continuing.