The goal is to head into the playoffs with an actual chance of beating the Packers/Chiefs/Seahawks/Saints with Brees type teams.  

Sure, in the right season against the right schedule, you can win 10-11 games with an average dink and dunk offense.  But that's going to fall apart in the playoffs.  That's not the blueprint.  

If Chubb is only 50% healthy, does that make him a half-Chubb?

35 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

Carson Wentz needs to be successful is:

1.To be healthy. No injuries. 
2. A great Oline. 
3. A good coach  

Uh name one team to win a SB without those? You might be able to find one. Maybe. 

5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I never said the point of benching Wentz was to help him become a better QB for the Eagles.  I said that "could happen" as a result.  But the reason Wentz was benched is because of his performance. 

It reached the point that (almost) the entire fanbase was ready to fire the head coach, the entire coaching staff, the GM and more than willing to cut every other player other than Wentz.  That is beyond ridiculous.  Wentz apologists are ready and willing to destroy the careers and lives of every other person associated with the team before they are even willing to see if playing another QB could improve the team.   That has NEVER happened with the history of this team and I am relieved it did not happen this year. 

Poor QB plays affects EVERYONE else on the team, especially when the team loses as many games as the Eagles have this season.  You have guys like Jalen Reagor who was drafted in the 1st round being criticized for not having stellar numbers when his QB has a 73 QB rating.  Seriously? Do you think that's fair to him?   Do you think having a QB perform like Wentz has this season will help in his development?  

And what about other veterans who have been consistent, star-level players...like Zach Ertz?  How does keeping Wentz in help his situation?  The guy goes from consistently catching close to 100 balls a year to bottom-tier level numbers this year.   I'm sure he's thrilled with his numbers this year, likely soon going into free agency.  How much money could this year have cost him?

What about the entire offensive line?  Those guys would get ripped apart week in and week out because of the amount of sacks Wentz would take.  Were some of them their fault?  Sure.  How many could have been avoided had Wentz been playing at a near 2017 level?

Then you hear everyone complain about how the RB's aren't getting enough carries, etc.  And I tend to agree, they should get more carries.  But in this system, good QB play will aid the running game.  It's about momentum.  You get a decent completion here, then run...then pass a few more times, mix in a run here and there.  If you're ahead in the 4th quarter, then you run the ball even more then.  When you have a QB playing at an extremely inconsistent level, that does not happen.

And what about the defense?  How do you think they feel?  They've had their fair share of very good, some outstanding performances.  How many times have they made huge stops this year only to see the offense come back on the field and sputter, many times going 3 and out?  How does keeping Wentz in help them?

Then we get to Doug Pederson.  Everyone's new favorite fall guy.  The coach that won this city's first ever Super Bowl getting thrown under the bus because his QB has a 73 QB rating and has failed to put on a consistently good performance for more than maybe 2-3 games the entire season.  Now all of a sudden it's about play design, play calling and he "Must not be taylering the offense around Wentz".   Amazing he was able to "taylor the offense around Wentz" in 2017, 2018 and 2019....but somehow he forgot to coach in the offseason.  It must be that.  There's no way it could actually be Wentz, right?  Give me a break.   

And last but not least, it must also be Howie.  "He hasn't given Wentz any help" blah blah blah.  Are you kidding me?  Howie has gone out-of--his-way to build a team around Wentz, bringing in WR after WR, drafting a TE and 3 WR's in the past couple of years, offensive linemen, rb's, etc etc   Plus the veterans, etc.  Granted, they haven't all worked out but to act as if the GM has ignored helping Wentz is comical.

 

So the solution, according to these Wentz apologists is to keep starting Wentz, to the detriment of the rest of the team, the coaches and the GM.  They can all go for all they care.  Nice logic. 

And I'm relieved someone up there in the Eagles FO put a stop to the insanity before (at the very least) seeing what this offense and team looks like with a different QB playing.  Job well done, Eagles.  

If you think drafting JJAW counts as helping the team, I’m not sure what you’ve been watching.  I mean between adding over the hill deep threats and unrefined rookies, I’m not sure what Howie could do differently.  
 

And what about Reagor? How many touches was Doug manufacturing for him? How often is he running the ball? I mean forget about how much other teams were torching the Eagles with WR runs. 
 

The solution may not be to keep Wentz but it’s sure as hell not to keep the same coaches that have kept running the same schemes and concepts that have failed week after week.  

13 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Do you think health, a good oline, receivers, a good gm and coaches aren’t necessary for the team to be successful?  I mean what team wins without those things.  

Why was the offense better with Hurts than Wentz? 
 

Carson was sacked a league high. 0sacks given up yesterday. 
 

Alshon was shutout with Wentz. Yesterday he caught a TD. 
 

Doug and game plan was fine yesterday. We beat the number one defense. Explain that

1 hour ago, DeathByEagle said:

Can we really count 2017 as "Dougs Offense"? Frank was making the game plans, scripting and creating the call sheet. 

That would be one way to explain the difference in ranking

51 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

He made sure to emphasize the word BACKUP alot huh? He didn't say it that many times on accident. He's going back to Wentz next year. 

Jalen Hurts was the backup QB.  There is no "conspiracy".  It was his first NFL start as a rookie.  And that's exactly the terminology you use in that situation.  Hurts wasn't even named the starter for the next game, let alone the rest of the season when that situation transpired. So yes, of course, he's "the backup".

And no one has said Hurts will replace Wentz next year.  We are nowhere near that point yet and likely won't be for a while.  

Just now, Uscg-green said:

Uh name one team to win a SB without those?

Ya cut out like 7 other excuses. This isn’t pick and choose what ya want. 

1 minute ago, jwill2420 said:

Ya cut out like 7 other excuses. This isn’t pick and choose what ya want. 

Those are the main ones. And you wrote it. But I'm guessing you couldn't think of a team to win without those huh?

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The goal is to head into the playoffs with an actual chance of beating the Packers/Chiefs/Seahawks/Saints with Brees type teams.  

Sure, in the right season against the right schedule, you can win 10-11 games with an average dink and dunk offense.  But that's going to fall apart in the playoffs.  That's not the blueprint.  

I mean that’s the question I have with Hurts. Can he throw the ball deep with accuracy?  Can he throw a deep out with velocity?  

55 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I suppose if you ignore his two top five finishes and then call top 12 average...

Even excluding those two top 5 seasons his next lowest in the other 3 seasons is 15th, which would just be slightly above average, as half of 32 teams is 16. 

Schwartz has never been at 16 or below always above it.

4 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

Why was the offense better with Hurts than Wentz? 

Because the RB playing QB thing works for a bit until tape is gathered and it is figured out. Teams take the run away and force them to play pocket QB. Then the magic stops. Example. Look at 2019 Lamar and 2020.

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

I mean that’s the question I have with Hurts. Can he throw the ball deep with accuracy?  Can he throw a deep out with velocity?  

I’ll use Wentzcuse #7 not until we get wrs that can get separation 

Just now, Uscg-green said:

Because the RB playing QB thing works for a bit until tape is gathered and it is figured out. Teams take the run away and force them to play pocket QB. Then the magic stops. 

Yep.  That's what happened to Wentz.

2 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

Why was the offense better with Hurts than Wentz? 

Hurts escaped pressure and didn’t turn the ball over. He wasn’t more accurate and the passing game looked about the same as it has looked all season. 

Just now, NCiggles said:

Hurts escaped pressure and didn’t turn the ball over. He wasn’t more accurate and the passing game looked about the same as it has looked all season. 

You must be joking.

4 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

Why was the offense better with Hurts than Wentz? 
 

Carson was sacked a league high. 0sacks given up yesterday. 
 

Alshon was shutout with Wentz. Yesterday he caught a TD. 
 

Doug and game plan was fine yesterday. We beat the number one defense. Explain that

Because Hurts is more athletic and ran for 106 yards. If he had thrown for 300 yards and 3 TDs, I'd be all aboard your argument. 

1 minute ago, Uscg-green said:

Those are the main ones. And you wrote it. But I'm guessing you couldn't think of a team to win without those huh?

Pick and choose. 
 

Explain why was there 0sacks yesterday. 

Explain why Alshon was shutout but caught a TD yesterday. 
 

Explain how the same offense that struggled with Wentz beat the number 1 D yesterday. 

Just now, jwill2420 said:

Pick and choose. 
 

Explain why was there 0sacks yesterday. 

Explain why Alshon was shutout but caught a TD yesterday. 
 

Explain how the same offense that struggled with Wentz beat the number 1 D yesterday. 

How about you answer my question first? Who has won a SB with a bad line and piss poor coaching?

Just now, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

I’ll use Wentzcuse #7 not until we get wrs that can get separation 

Maybe scheme is part of the issue. If Hurts throws for more than 300 yards in Arizona maybe I will reassess my position. 

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Hurts escaped pressure and didn’t turn the ball over. He wasn’t more accurate and the passing game looked about the same as it has looked all season. 

They played the number 1 defense yesterday. How did he pass against the Packers? He was much better. 

Just now, Uscg-green said:

How about you answer my question first? Who has won a SB with a bad line and piss poor coaching?

You got nothing. Nothing but excuses.....

Just now, jwill2420 said:

They played the number 1 defense yesterday. How did he pass against the Packers? He was much better. 

You got nothing. Nothing but excuses.....

Which means you can't think of one. Thank you for proving my point. 

5 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

Because the RB playing QB thing works for a bit until tape is gathered and it is figured out. Teams take the run away and force them to play pocket QB. Then the magic stops. Example. Look at 2019 Lamar and 2020.

So basically all you have is what MIGHT Happen???? 
 

Come back with Facts. 

3 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

You must be joking.

His completion percentage for the year I believe is 53 percent. 

1 minute ago, Uscg-green said:

Which means you can't think of one. Thank you for proving my point. 

You have no answers for anything. You don’t know what your talking about. All you have is speculation