1 minute ago, RLC said:

Football players are not like us

Football and Hockey players.

Sometimes you have to sit back  and marvel at their toughness.

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Sure. Fine with protecting the 1st round pick, even though it was a bad pick.  So Watkins or someone.  For God sakes.  Scott is a liability.  As is Ward for that matter.  

I am willing to challenge Reagor as a draft pick with the power of hindsight.  If I ran the 2020 draft, I would have drafted Reagor at our spot.  I wouldn't have liked it.  (of course, I also would have drafted DJ Chark in 2018 over Goedert and Metcalf in 2019, so it may not have been necessary).

But under the circumstances of being desperate to add speed, the aversion to Justin Jefferson was understandable.  (His #1 concern was that he may end up being an underneath slot WR and his OWN OC acknowledged that).  

Howie allowed them to get boxed into a situation where he had to draft Reagor.  Reagor is a guy who belonged in round 2.  I'd have loved him in round 2.  Big time athlete, big time speed in college.  That 40 at the combine was a real red flag and I think we all tried to rationalize it away with pro-day GPS numbers and top speed numbers on tape. 

What we have seen so far as a pro: his routes are bad and his deep speed, while better than what our horrible offense is used to, really isn't even close to special.  Even after his most impactful 2 games as a pro, I'd be lying if I said I was impressed.  And, like I said, I approved of the pick at the time.  

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

The discussion was really about KR and Scott. But ok.  A young unknown JAG over what we have might be better.   

A punt returner should be able to flip field position and be a threat to make a big play.  Reagor is the guy.  Ward and Scott would be a waste of time there, I think Watkins would be too.

Hightower is the best suited on the Eagles roster to be a solid KR -- him or Sanders, and the Eagles won't use Sanders in that spot.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I am willing to challenge Reagor as a draft pick with the power of hindsight.  If I ran the 2020 draft, I would have drafted Reagor at our spot.  I wouldn't have liked it.  (of course, I also would have drafted DJ Chark in 2018 over Goedert and Metcalf in 2019, so it may not have been necessary).

But under the circumstances of being desperate to add speed, the aversion to Justin Jefferson was understandable.  (His #1 concern was that he may end up being an underneath slot WR and his OWN OC acknowledged that).  

Howie allowed them to get boxed into a situation where he had to draft Reagor.  Reagor is a guy who belonged in round 2.  I'd have loved him in round 2.  Big time athlete, big time speed in college.  That 40 at the combine was a real red flag and I think we all tried to rationalize it away with pro-day GPS numbers and top speed numbers on tape. 

What we have seen so far as a pro: his routes are bad and his deep speed, while better than what our horrible offense is used to, really isn't even close to special.  Even after his most impactful 2 games as a pro, I'd be lying if I said I was impressed.  And, like I said, I approved of the pick at the time.  

Yup, I feel the same. 

I think howie got enamored with reagor after his video workout where he ran in the 4.2 range, definitely haven't seen that this year, he's looked more like his combine 40 time.

Having said that agree with your above statements of why eagles drafted him and I agreed with it at the time.

For the record my two favorite WRs in the draft were Tee Higgins and Chase Claypool.

I was high on reagor as well.

57 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Just you guys wait till the real hot hand D-Jack, comes back.

He plays better than Alshon honestly. 

1 minute ago, greend said:

He plays better than Alshon honestly. 

Yup defenses still respect Desean, where as no defense is scared of Alshon.☹️

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

For the record.  You’re clueless.  

How many times you plan on getting banned this year?

I mean there are only 3 weeks left in the year I bet you can do it for the 3rd time within that time frame no?

11 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'd be willing to put greend back there, as long as I don't have to watch Ward anymore.

Scouting reports say he has a bit of wiggle to him, but his breakaway speed has evaporated.

 

He's still better than Ward back there. 

55 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I agree.  I loved Huff coming out and thought he would be dynamic.  

That's what everyone kept saying. Once in the NFL he looked like a complete jag

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I am willing to challenge Reagor as a draft pick with the power of hindsight.  If I ran the 2020 draft, I would have drafted Reagor at our spot.  I wouldn't have liked it.  (of course, I also would have drafted DJ Chark in 2018 over Goedert and Metcalf in 2019, so it may not have been necessary).

But under the circumstances of being desperate to add speed, the aversion to Justin Jefferson was understandable.  (His #1 concern was that he may end up being an underneath slot WR and his OWN OC acknowledged that).  

Howie allowed them to get boxed into a situation where he had to draft Reagor.  Reagor is a guy who belonged in round 2.  I'd have loved him in round 2.  Big time athlete, big time speed in college.  That 40 at the combine was a real red flag and I think we all tried to rationalize it away with pro-day GPS numbers and top speed numbers on tape. 

What we have seen so far as a pro: his routes are bad and his deep speed, while better than what our horrible offense is used to, really isn't even close to special.  Even after his most impactful 2 games as a pro, I'd be lying if I said I was impressed.  And, like I said, I approved of the pick at the time.  

His own OC at Minnesota.  I don't think anyone at LSU even hinted at that.

Just now, greend said:

That's what everyone kept saying. Once in the NFL he looked like a complete jag

He wasn't bad as a KR took one to the house, dude didn't know how to run route though.

Just now, Utebird said:

Yup, I feel the same. 

I think howie got enamored with reagor after his video workout where he ran in the 4.2 range, definitely haven't seen that this year, he's looked more like his combine 40 time.

Having said that agree with your above statements of why eagles drafted him and I agreed with it at the time.

For the record my two favorite WRs in the draft were Tee Higgins and Chase Claypool.

I was high on reagor as well.

I was actually excited when they drafted Reagor.  Not even for Reagor himself...more so because it actually reflected a commitment towards making real investments in dangerous, fast weapons with explosive traits.  Reagor was the top guy on the board for that fit....even if most pundits had him later 1st / early 2nd.  But the willingness to actually somewhat reach for that at least showed that they were turning a corner and starting to value it.  It's rare to see a high pick from the Eagles whose athleticism doesn't give them a glass ceiling on what they can become.  

So I was thrilled.  

But the reality is that players in every mold go to the HOF and bust out.  And Howie is so blind and reactionary.  Take an injury risk on Sidney Jones and use that experience to bail on the same risk with a generational talent in Metcalf.  Pass on some incredibly fast and explosive talents in rounds 2-3 in 2018-2019 only to reach for one who is no more talented in round 1 in 2020.  He's just all over the place.

16 minutes ago, RLC said:

Football players are not like us

Time to google what that even is. Can't be any worse than when I went down that degloving rabbit hole.

 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I can’t speak about the conditions of my work release.  Don’t take offense.  Doesn’t change the facts.  

Your opinion of me isn't a fact, that you have been banned multiple times is.

Prefacing something offensive with no offense doesn't automatically eliminate the offense.

Maybe Instead of prefacing your statements with, no offense, maybe you could just stop trying to offend people no?

Having said that welcome back! I look forward to your passive aggressive and aggressive slights  directed at me.

Maybe the blog should take up a eager on how long til you are banned again.

What's the over under?

18 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'd be willing to put greend back there, as long as I don't have to watch Ward anymore.

I'd be willing to get paid to do it. But I bet you would change your mind pretty quickly on this

 

Just now, greend said:

I'd be willing to get paid to do it. But I bet you would change your mind pretty quickly on this

No talent and bad results won't get you benched as the PR.  Your persistent attitude problems might though.

6 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

That wiggle is him trying to get to the bathroom before a nugget breaks loose.  

You used to like me.  What happened?  I’m such a nice guy.  

Nuggets breaking loose aren't a problem. Peeing every 29 seconds is what gives me wiggle

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

No talent and bad results won't get you benched as the PR.  Your persistent attitude problems might though.

🤣 idk Alshon and Malik still get to play

Blake Countess with his THIRD Eagle stint. 

 

 

Howie just keeps nailing it with these creative roster moves. 

11 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I was actually excited when they drafted Reagor.  Not even for Reagor himself...more so because it actually reflected a commitment towards making real investments in dangerous, fast weapons with explosive traits.  Reagor was the top guy on the board for that fit....even if most pundits had him later 1st / early 2nd.  But the willingness to actually somewhat reach for that at least showed that they were turning a corner and starting to value it.  It's rare to see a high pick from the Eagles whose athleticism doesn't give them a glass ceiling on what they can become.  

So I was thrilled.  

But the reality is that players in every mold go to the HOF and bust out.  And Howie is so blind and reactionary.  Take an injury risk on Sidney Jones and use that experience to bail on the same risk with a generational talent in Metcalf.  Pass on some incredibly fast and explosive talents in rounds 2-3 in 2018-2019 only to reach for one who is no more talented in round 1 in 2020.  He's just all over the place.

Yup, Howie for sure seems to be reactionary and his drafts dont seem to have any kind of vision or direction 

When Reid was here I used to be able to look at a guy in the draft and say, that's an Andy Reid guy or a JJ guy, much like one can do with the steelers or ravens. 

One can look at a draft and say that guy fits the steelers like a glove and it works for them, they have a vision, know what they are trying to build and how to build it from the top down.

What the heck other than a qb factory are the eagles building? What players can one day, that guy fits what the eagles do.

It's apparent on game day that the eagles have no identity and on draft day the same holds true and that's on Howie and Lurie as well

7 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Let’s hug it out.  You like the bbq and chef posts I make. You want me to go back to that?  

 Not the Riley I was hoping for.  

Please god, no!

51 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Let’s hug it out.  You like the bbq and chef posts I make. You want me to go back to that?  

 Not the Riley I was hoping for.  

You want Riley Cooper back?  It would help to have better downfield blocking for the QB powers and QB sweeps we'll see this week.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Blake Countess with his THIRD Eagle stint. 

 

 

Howie just keeps nailing it with these creative roster moves. 

He's thinking outside the box.