37 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think his speed is fine. He’s probably somewhere 4.3 to 4.4 which is plenty of speed to win at the NFL level. I don’t think you see it completely on display at times because I still think he’s processing and thinking too much out there so it slows him down because of the time he missed with the injury and the fact they had no off-season activities.

I also think  there’s times where he doesn’t run good routes or he slows down on a route instead of running it through. That passed from Jalen hurts when you watch it on the all 22 might have been caught up with the wind but it looks like hurts slows down on it. I don’t know if he thought he was going to overrun it or mistimed it 

Would have rather drafted the 4.43 guy who is a precise route runner, like NFL ready route runner.

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Reagor had 611yards his final college season against Big 12 defenses and was .........a reach, because Howie panicked after Lamb went and settled for a position rather than a player.  

Walter Football had Reagor as the 8th best receiver, and looking at the production in the NFL, they were not wrong on his placement.  Really the only thing wrong with their list is Jefferson at 5, when he should be in the top 3, maybe top 2.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You don't spend a first round pick on a WR that is a great punt returner.  You spend a first round pick on a good-great starter.  

CeeDee Lamb shouldn't have been a 1st rounder then. Just trying to understand your logic.

Reagor, while he still might be good, was a reach.  Just like Hurts.  In fact if you look at most draft picks from the Eagles they seem like reaches.

6 minutes ago, devpool said:

Idk what world some of you are living in where you actually expected someone to run a 4.2 and are disappointed he's probably a sub 4.4 guy.

One where he doesn't look like Hill 🤷‍♂️

7 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Would have rather drafted the 4.43 guy who is a precise route runner, like NFL ready route runner.

Don’t look at me. I said I was fine going with Justin Jefferson of you believed he could play the outside at an nfl caliber level. 

 I said at the time if you’re going to go the direction to fix the WR that the Eagles did which was heading into the draft trying to fix your wide receiver position then you better get someone who day one could step in day 1 and do a good job. That’s why I said you have to move up to get one of the top two guys in jeudy or lamb or take jefferson at 20 who steps on from day 1 and at worse if he didn’t pan out on the outside you have a very good slot receiver. I wasn’t as high on ruggs others on here were

The fact that they didn’t sign a wide receiver in free agency force them to take a wide receiver at 20 and force that player to have to step in day one and be a good player. The fact that they took a guy that you knew wasn’t polished and it was going to take time during a pandemic was a little ridiculous in my opinion.

I wouldn’t of taken reagor at 20. I was actually of the thought process of moving back to get more picks as this team lacked youth at a multitude of positions. I knew they were going to take reagor at 20 After two weeks of Mosher and Adam Caplan kept leaking things out there. and and I had the sense to Eagles were dumb enough to think well week one we had DeSean ans the offense looked really good so we just get someone that’s in the same mold as desean will be fine.

5 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Reagor, while he still might be good, was a reach.  Just like Hurts.  In fact if you look at most draft picks from the Eagles they seem like reaches.

Wallace, Driscoll, Hightower and Watkins were good value picks. Their first three picks all felt like reaches. 

6 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You don't spend a first round pick on a WR that is a great punt returner.  You spend a first round pick on a good-great starter.  

No doubt.  Why would you draft the guy that is going to break the single season rookie receiving yards record when you can draft a great ( using that loosely ) punt returner.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Wallace, Driscoll, Hightower and Watkins were good value picks. Their first three picks all felt like reaches. 

That's true.  It does seem they're more likely to find contributors in the middle-late rounds or UDFA than early rounds.

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You don't spend a first round pick on a WR that is a great punt returner.  You spend a first round pick on a good-great starter.  

You're also supposed to play him and target him more.  Jefferson gets about 8 targets a game and 80% of the offensive snaps.  

Reagor gets less than 5 targets per game and about 67% of the offensive snaps.

9 minutes ago, RLC said:

CeeDee Lamb shouldn't have been a 1st rounder then. Just trying to understand your logic.

WTF ?? CeeDee Lamb was a great WR in college, has the numbers to back it up, and has produced as a pro to back up his draft slot.

15 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

So by that reasoning, should we assume every fast WR in college who has pedestrian numbers should be considered in the first round?  

No. Just saying college production is just a factor into it, but not necessarily the end all be all. I don't buy that just because his numbers at TCU weren't flashy means he's going to fail in the NFL. Diggs, Ridley, McLaurin colleges numbers aren't impressive but they are all playing near elite levels.

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Jefferson gets about 8 targets a game and 80% of the offensive snaps.  

You know why that is ?? Because coming out of college he was already an NFL ready route runner.  Speed does so much, running routes in the NFL is key.

21 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Eh, Reagor has better college numbers than Metcalf. Even JJAW had better numbers than him.

Metcalf missed a lot of his time in college with a neck injury 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

WTF ?? CeeDee Lamb was a great WR in college, has the numbers to back it up, and has produced as a pro to back up his draft slot.

Lamb was a great prospect. Would have been thrilled to get him. People are saying we shouldn't draft good punt returners in RD1 😅

Lots of excellent WRs were good punt/kick returners in college. 

11 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Reagor, while he still might be good, was a reach.  Just like Hurts.  In fact if you look at most draft picks from the Eagles they seem like reaches.

I don't consider it a reach. I think he would be going within the next 10 or so picks from where they took him. That's not a big range. 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

I don't consider it a reach. I think he would be going within the next 10 or so picks from where they took him. That's not a big range. 

We drafted Reagor at 21. The Saints were going to draft him at 24. Athletic players go early in the draft.

 

6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

WTF ?? CeeDee Lamb was a great WR in college, has the numbers to back it up, and has produced as a pro to back up his draft slot.

 if dak didn’t get hurt lamb was on pace for 1385 yards. You know how much more venom there would be on that pick knowing we didn’t trade up for lamb (whether possible or not) and jefferson right behind him are both on pace for rookie receiving records. 

Just now, downundermike said:

You know why that is ?? Because coming out of college he was already an NFL ready route runner.  Speed does so much, running routes in the NFL is key.

Everyone understood (or should have understood) that Jefferson was going to be the volume-producer between the two players.  He had 111 catches and 1,540 yards for a national champion college team.  The fact that he was the 5th WR off the board means there were a lot of teams that doubted he could perform as an outside WR.

The Eagles drafted Reagor to stretch the field and make chunk plays in the offense -- they already had Ertz and Goedert as volume targets.  Like it or not, he was drafted to be Desean Jackson after Jackson is gone.

If Doug can't get him the ball in open space or over the top it's not going to be a good pick, but again, that's just as much on coaching and scheme as it is the player.  Get the ball in his hands more -- if he fumbles and drops, then that's on him.  Right now he's being underused. 

10 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

Metcalf missed a lot of his time in college with a neck injury 

That's true but when he was playing he still wasn't necessarily dominating teams the way AJ Brown was. 

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Diggs- 5th rounder

Ridley was a better college player.

McLaurin- 3rd rounder.  

 

I know there are Eagle FANS that want to defend every thing Eagles.  Instead of me killing any and every argument.  You might as well just admit I got it right.  

I'm talking in general, not defending Reagor. Top notch receivers don't always produce in college, is my point.

Classic period of time on the blog. 
 

half thinks Wentz is garbage and how it should be fired for the extension. Half thinks we’re getting top value from Indy I trade. 
 

half thinks howie should be fired for taking a 2d round qb, half hails said about as the future of the franchise. 

We needed speed at WR.  We got speed at WR. 

If you want to be pissed off about Reagor, be pissed off that Howie and the coaching staff botched the WR position since 2017 and can't coach anyone up into a viable starter. 

And I'm not sure how anyone can knock Reagor for his stats when he was injured and not on the field for 5 games early on in his rookie season. 

2 minutes ago, Allhaildawk said:

Classic period of time on the blog. 
 

half thinks Wentz is garbage and how it should be fired for the extension. Half thinks we’re getting top value from Indy I trade. 
 

half thinks howie should be fired for taking a 2d round qb, half hails said about as the future of the franchise. 

It's not that divisive. More like a Gaussian Distribution of quartiles. The first and 4th quartile always disagree, even if the topic is vanilla ice cream. The 2nd and 3rd quartiles is where debate and discussion take place and the board reflects this. It's human nature.  Not a criticism of your post, just sick of the portrayal of almost everything in our country as one side vs. the other.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You might as well just admit I got it right.  

I admit you were right.  I was wrong so far.  I thought Reagor would be more NFL ready.  Hopefully a proper off-season does him good.