5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He can believe whatever he wants.   The record says what you are.  And what they are is the worst team in the weakest division in the NFL.

This isn’t a team that was a few plays away from a winning record. This is a team that has looked consistently bad week in and week out 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

For everyone that insists that benching Wentz was/is a mistake, a game like this is part of the reason why you would bench Wentz.   Although the offense has looked better with Hurts under center, today's game showed other glaring issues with the team...injuries above all but it also showed some bad mistakes made by Pederson and poor adjustments made by the coaching staff.   It also showed that Hurts has potential but he's still a rookie and he's going to make rookie mistakes. 

AND it shows that the struggles of the offense this season aren't all Wentz' fault.  That said, I believe Wentz needs some one on one, mechanic/footwork specific coaching in the off season.  

As for what will happen in the off-season?  That's anyone's guess at this point but both Lurie and Howie may have some tough decisions to make. 

     No.  It showed you those other glaring issues.  They were as plain as day to anyone who had eyes and the will to be honest with what they were seeing.

There is no coin flip anymore. If Eagles and Bengals tie SOS it will go to record vs common opponents. Right now, the Bengals would pick ahead of us and win that.

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I get what he’s going for with an answer like this, but this doesn’t fly to a fan base like this 

Being delusional can be great on the field; it's the entire reason Jalen Mills is playable in the NFL. But when it comes to preparation, it's clear this team goes into games thinking they're way better than they really are.

8 minutes ago, RLC said:

If Hurts playing poorly is a 342 yard game, then we're on the right track with him as our QB. 

Hurts had Matt Pryor, all the false starts penalties and the Pederson play-calling to deal with. Despite all that we were still moving the ball. 

My number #1 concern is the fumbling. 2 hands Jalen.

I think his box score looked a lot better than his performance. 

And another Eagles season wrapped up. Dissapointed, but in two weeks we got the Flyers who look very promising. 

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

This mfer on NBC thinks it’s election night

It’s very cringeworthy. 

8 minutes ago, RLC said:

If Hurts playing poorly is a 342 yard game, then we're on the right track with him as our QB. 

Hurts had Matt Pryor, all the false starts penalties and the Pederson play-calling to deal with. Despite all that we were still moving the ball. 

My number #1 concern is the fumbling. 2 hands Jalen.

Hurts looked like a fish out of water dropping back and passing with a deficit. 
 

Start the arm strength as a problem discussion too.

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

This isn’t a team that was a few plays away from a winning record. This is a team that has looked consistently bad week in and week out 

Yup.  Brutally bad.  Most games they have been scratching and clawing just to keep their head above water.  And they haven't succeeded in getting that done that unless playing a terrible QB, or Daniel Jones, who isn't terrible... but isn't very good either.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

There is no coin flip anymore. If Eagles and Bengals tie SOS it will go to record vs common opponents. Right now, the Bengals would pick ahead of us and win that.

Since when? We just coin flipped with the Vikings 3 years ago.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Since when? We just coin flipped with the Vikings 3 years ago.

They changed it recently.

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Disagree. Winston had 15 career games in 5 seasons with that many or more yards. Yards aren’t everything 

Yards are fairly predictive. Winston's historic turnover rate did him in.

I'm guessing Hurts' performance will look better on all-22...and the play-calling will look worse.

With all the needs this team has, the Eagles should focus on OL and CB in the draft. Load up.  If you can sneak in a DE somehow, then try to do that, too. But, we have too many needs to fix everything. But, we need to get at least 2 CBs this offseason and get rid of bums like Pryor.  Even Herbig isn't athletic enough.  If we can get this OL fixed in terms of depth and get some CB help, then we can at least be somewhat competitive next year.

1 minute ago, RLC said:

Yards are fairly predictive. Winston's historic turnover rate did him in.

I'm guessing Hurts' performance will look better on all-22...and the play-calling will look worse.

So, the 2 fumbles and 2 INTs aren't a big deal for Hurts?

I think Hurts missed a lot of open receivers by ducking and running after his first read was taken away. He scrambled out of a lot of clean pockets.

48 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Not sure what you were looking at.

 

I figured it out... those numbers are what the cost would have been pre-June 1 to cut him at the beginning of 2020.

Ah, my mistake.

22 minutes ago, hputenis said:

Would be funny if they drafted a QB in that spot.  I might be wrong, but Tua doesn't look like the guy to me.  He's built like a high school senior and his arm confirms that.  

Tua was benched for the 2nd time for Fitzpatrick. Don't think he's the future of any team

9 minutes ago, hputenis said:

This play fooled me once again for about 1 quarter.  Is he really hurt again?  If so....I'd like to post something positive about that 1 play, because DJax was and still is an awesome football player.  

Regardless of whether he's hurt or not, he once again showed his ability to create separation at the last second possible.  He looked like he was 25 years old on the play.  That defender thought he had great coverage on Desean, but Desean baited him like he always does, created his own separation at the last possible second, and made the DB look like a total idiot.  

He's still fast and can make plays but he just can't stay healthy. Don't even want him back for vet min because you're just paying for a few plays a season and that's not worth a roster spot

Don't know if the flip was the actual reason he was injured or not but he should have known better than to do that. He's injury prone

1 minute ago, schuy7 said:

I think Hurts missed a lot of open receivers by ducking and running after his first read was taken away. He scrambled out of a lot of clean pockets.

Mike Quick on the radio broadcast said that he often wasn't throwing to the safety valve earlier in plays.  That's similar to what Wentz was doing...trying to extend plays and do too much.

1 hour ago, phil77 said:

My thoughts on QB situation is you put both on the market and take the best offer and roll with the other.  

The only way you think about trading Wentz is if there's a complete rebuild involving tanking for the next top QB prospect.  Anyone with any sort of understanding or game sense can see that Hurts does not possess an NFL arm.  So if the Eagles are good with hitting the complete reboot button you clean the entire roster and admit the suck for the next 3-4 years.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

     No.  It showed you those other glaring issues.  They were as plain as day to anyone who had eyes and the will to be honest with what they were seeing.

There have been issues all season but until you get to see what the offense looks like with a different QB running it, you won't get a clear picture of what is what.  Despite what you want to believe, the issues aren't nearly as bad as you made them out to be before Wentz was benched.  They beat N.O.  They looked good against Arizona (likely a win had the secondary been healthy) and they showed improvement today in the 1st half. 

 The 2nd half today was a disaster...and showed some of the issues you have been complaining about.  That's 1/2 of football in 3 games vs at least 8+ games with Wentz under center when the entire offense looked abysmal.  So obviously Wentz' poor play shares a good portion of the blame.  Just because the team looked bad today does not excuse Wentz for being disastrous for at least 8-9 games this year. 

2 minutes ago, TEW said:

Ah, my mistake.

All good.   I've been staring at otc and spotrac for a while.

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

So, the 2 fumbles and 2 INTs aren't a big deal for Hurts?

The fumbling is a VERY big deal. It happened in every game. A rookie QB throwing INTs when trailing is not a big deal. All QBs go through that.

7 minutes ago, RLC said:

Yards are fairly predictive. Winston's historic turnover rate did him in.

I'm guessing Hurts' performance will look better on all-22...and the play-calling will look worse.

Yeah, the two fumbles and two interceptions will look much better.

16 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

I do, unfortunately

Pretty sure it was part of a bet someone tried reneging on by saying #10 was not within the top 10. Might have been beast

That’s what it was. Something about a top 10 pick and the pick wound up being #10

1 minute ago, Desertbirds said:

Yeah, the two fumbles and two interceptions will look much better.

Out of likes but this was funny