1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

 

if I’m being completely honest I think malok Jackson has completely played closer to what he look like in 2018 since the first five or six weeks of the season.

3 hours ago, UK Eagle said:

LOL. Another small reason why the team needs a reset

 

I wonder how many Pryor and Seumalo have of those 13.

1 minute ago, 315Eagles said:

I agree about the yards as they mean nothing if you're not scoring.

But at least they are moving the ball the last 3 games under Hurts.

This is the old Kirk cousins puts up great statistics at the end of the year but then when you look at the yardage you say to yourself those were very hollow. Because a lot of the time they never lead to success on the score.

1 minute ago, CaliEagle said:

I wonder how many Pryor and Seumalo have of those 13.

I counted yesterday. Pryor had 3 false starts and seumalo had 2. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

This is the old Kirk cousins puts up great statistics at the end of the year but then when you look at the yardage you say to yourself those were very hollow. Because a lot of the time they never lead to success on the score.

I couldn’t yesterday. Pryor had 3 false starts and seumalo had 2. 

Pryor also had one on a FG that killed the team a month or so ago. Pryor is hot garbage and shouldn't be back next year.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

start Sudfeld

I'm torn on this. Hurts needs the reps! But if Mailata plays, have to start Sudfeld. There's no way to evaluate Hurts against Washington's front 4 with his OTs being Toth/Pryor.

2 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

I wonder how many Pryor and Seumalo have of those 13.

Kelce had 1 or 2. Mailata was called for one that was someone else, not sure if they ever corrected it in the stat book. Ertz had one yesterday. Everything else was probably Pryor and 2 from Seumalo yesterday. 

1 minute ago, RLC said:

I'm torn on this. Hurts needs the reps! But if Mailata plays, have to start Sudfeld. There's no way to evaluate Hurts against Washington's front 4 with his OTs being Toth/Pryor.

The Eagles should run a vanilla game plan and run the ball 40 times. Let Howard and Scott get most of those carries.  Don't put the QB at risk, especially if Mialata isn't playing.

7 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

After Chip was fired some were saying we were 5 years away from contending again.  You can turn things around quickly.  

Agreed. Fix Wentz and we’re back to being a threat at least. Instead of the current Clown Show going on. 

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The thing with Washington is if Alex Smith plays in that game and I’m guessing he is going to play their offense is actually competent. When you add the fact that McLaurin is going to be back and our secondary is basically shot it is a recipe for Washington to have sustainable offense and drives.

The front for for Washington is a complete mismatch for the Eagles offensive line. They have the athletes to neutralize Jalen hurts so he cannot beat them with his legs. So he is going to have to win that game from the pocket because I don’t think he’s going to get the lanes or has the athleticism to overcome the DL unit the Washington football team can put out there every single play.

Also just pointing out the DT position after Fletcher Cox left the game left a lot to be desired. A lot of people are not talking about this but for the fact that we are paying Malik Jackson and Hargrave big time money and most places around the league they would both be starters. I was super underwhelmed from what the Eagles got out of those two yesterday after Fletcher Cox left the game. With the money they are making they have to be more impactful than what they were. 

That's the question is if Smith will play QB.  Didn't know McLaurin was going to be back and that's a big help for them as he always seems to do well vs us.  With our depleted DBs and now without Cox along the DL then if they have both Smith and McLaurin back they have a chance to put up enough points on us.  If they keep the game close at HT they have a shot since we have proven to be a poor 2nd half team the past few games.

 

DeSean Jackson now has 25 career TD's of 60+ yards.  The most by any player in NFL history.

 

8 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

 

Yup.  Not worth the investment at all.

Also, are Fletcher Cox and Lane Johnson already in the JP territory of it's a given they are going to miss games?  Something else to ponder with all of the money they are making. 

1 minute ago, CaliEagle said:

The Eagles should run a vanilla game plan and run the ball 40 times. Let Howard and Scott get most of those carries.  Don't put the QB at risk, especially if Mialata isn't playing.

Alex Smith better play because Washington just announced Haskins isn’t. 

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not defending doug or the eagles lack of committing to the run but outside of the 82 yard td run against the Saints, sanders hasn’t been overly effective the last 3 weeks outside of that run. He’s had 45 other carries over the 3 weeks and just 154 yards so 3.4 yard per carry. Now this is an all on him. Some good run defenses in Saints and solid cardinals. Some not so great run blocking. Some on Sanders. Someone dug for not allowing him to stay in a rhythm and getting away from him for long stretches.

Clearly make the argument that if you give him enough touches eventually he’s going to break one because that seems to be what we’ve seen. So that is a justification for giving him more and more touches 

How do you help a struggling QB?
How do you help a rookie QB?
How do you help an undermanned defense?
How do you help an OL that isn't gelled?
How do you maximize an offense with a carousel at WR? 
How do you maximize an offense who's most dangerous weapon is their speedy 2nd year RB?

 

 

🤔   There couldn't possibly be a single solution to ALL these problems, could there?

 

 

Oh yeah... RUN THE BALL... with Sanders.  And maybe consider getting a backup RB that actually belongs in the NFL (Sorry, Howie... you dropped the ball and were seduced by Boston Scott.)

Just now, RLC said:

I'm torn on this. Hurts needs the reps! But if Mailata plays, have to start Sudfeld. There's no way to evaluate Hurts against Washington's front 4 with his OTs being Toth/Pryor.

I’m not sure what more you need to evaluate.  Hurts is a really good #2 QB and a really mediocre #1 QB.  He doesn’t have the arm strength, and both of his INT yesterday were terrible decisions.  He won a game by running for 106 yards; many people in here in that moment said that was not going to be sustainable — and it’s not.  Even a poor defense like DAL simply closed down his running lanes yesterday and made him ineffective.  He fumbles a lot. 
 

These 4 games should be used to evaluate his ceiling.  Frankly, I don’t see enough in his arm to translate to successful full time starting QB.  That’s why he was drafted #53 instead of #1 like Murray and Mayfield — those guys have the arm Hurts does not have.

1 minute ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Agreed. Fix Wentz and we’re back to being a threat at least. Instead of the current Clown Show going on. 

Honestly, a committed Run game, a little help on the Oline, and 1 stud WR, and the offense could roll with either Hurts or Wentz.  Preferably Wentz

9 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

I wonder how many Pryor and Seumalo have of those 13.

Herbig had 2 last week.

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

DeSean Jackson now has 25 career TD's of 60+ yards.  The most by any player in NFL history.

 

 and what like 4 Total since he has been back these past 2 years? 

 

 

3 hours ago, UK Eagle said:

LOL. Another small reason why the team needs a reset

 

If you want a complete breakdown of each player who has one it goes like this 

pryor- 3

Herbig- 3

seumalo- 2

mailata- 2

ward-1

ertz-1

kelce-1

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If you want a complete breakdown of each player who has one it goes like this 

pryor- 3

Herbig- 3

seumalo- 2

mailata- 2

ward-1

ertz-1

kelce-1

I put those more on those players than Hurts. Pryor and Herbig might not even be on this roster next year.  Seumalo is overrated.  Mialata gets a pass because of his newness to football.

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Yup.  Not worth the investment at all.

Also, are Fletcher Cox and Lane Johnson already in the JP territory of it's a given they are going to miss games?  Something else to ponder with all of the money they are making. 

Johnson yes, but we are stuck with him.

Cox... maybe.  I'd like to trade him next year, honestly.  He's going to be diminishing value rapidly.  Let him go compete for another SB.  He won't be doing that here, and getting him off the books opens the way for other younger players starting in 2022.  Yes, it creates a hole at DT.  Matches the rest of the D.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If you want a complete breakdown of each player who has one it goes like this 

pryor- 3

Herbig- 3

seumalo- 2

mailata- 2

ward-1

ertz-1

kelce-1

I believe Pryor had a holding penalty as well.  To complete the stat line, do we know how many sacks he gave up?

Just now, Ipiggles said:

 and what like 4 Total since he has been back these past 2 years? 

 

 

It’s funny how little some people grow, even over many years.  When Jackson was inside the 20 I yelled "get in the end zone, you ass!”, and when he did the back flip I just shook my head.  I won’t miss him one bit when the Eagles move on

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

How do you help a struggling QB?
How do you help a rookie QB?
How do you help an undermanned defense?
How do you help an OL that isn't gelled?
How do you maximize an offense with a carousel at WR? 
How do you maximize an offense who's most dangerous weapon is their speedy 2nd year RB?

 

 

🤔   There couldn't possibly be a single solution to ALL these problems, could there?

 

 

Oh yeah... RUN THE BALL... with Sanders.  And maybe consider getting a backup RB that actually belongs in the NFL (Sorry, Howie... you dropped the ball and were seduced by Boston Scott.)

I don’t disagree with any of those points you’re making. Because I feel the exact same way.

I am just pointing out Sanders has not been as affective like people think he’s been. I think @ManuManu pointed it out earlier on the season he has really big runs and then with the majority of his other carries he just hasn’t looked all that impressive. Now that doesn’t mean you stop running the ball with him after 8 first possession carries and then only give them seven more of the rest of the game. Or go away from the run when it’s still only a 13 point game. That to me is ridiculous.

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

It’s funny how little some people grow, even over many years.  When Jackson was inside the 20 I yelled "get in the end zone, you ass!”, and when he did the back flip I just shook my head.  I won’t miss him one bit when the Eagles move on

well to be fair, other than the $, it's not like we could miss him, even when he is here, HE'S NOT!  

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t disagree with any of those points you’re making. Because I feel the exact same way.

I am just pointing out Sanders has not been as affective like people think he’s been. I think @ManuManu pointed it out earlier on the season he has really big runs and then with the majority of his other carries he just hasn’t looked all that impressive. Now that doesn’t mean you stop running the ball with him after 8 first possession carries and then only give them seven more of the rest of the game. Or go away from the run when it’s still only a 13 point game. That to me is ridiculous.

Ever hear of Barry Sanders?  

 

Give Miles the ball.   And as you run the ball more, the OL starts to roll, and they can beat down a front 7 and it gets easier as the game goes on.