18 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

This isn't anything like the 2015 season for me. I felt basically the same way you felt during/after the 2015 season but this is nowhere close to that, imo. 

There is an influx of younger talent that have not been given a full off-season, a full camp and a full pre-season in the NFL yet.   Plus, the team has shown resiliency even when they have been down this year - nothing like 2015 when you could clearly see the team/players were done. 

This is a laughable take. The excuse of a diminished off season doesn't hold any water, as every single team had the exact same issue. If the Eagles were the only team to be hit by a virus and couldn't do their offseason program and the other 31 teams could, then maybe you could use that. But it's BS being spouted by Doug mostly.

And resiliency? How so? They've completely deflated in 2nd halves since Hurts was injected. If Brees had started for New Orleans, we're very likely looking at an 8 game losing streak. Resiliency, feh!

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

It’s not a black/white thing.  Networks pander to running qbs because every 5 years, teams, HCs, and the media think that’s the "new style” of football, even though this has been a thing since the 60’s.  
 

And it’s not black/white, because the same crap applies to Tebow, Manziel, and Mayfield...not just Cam, Murray, and Lamar Jackson.

But the media does pander to running qbs, who provide more highlights.  
 

And they all either suck now or will suck later.  

He is good at commercials I’ll give him that.

Agreed it's a running QB thing. I was going to post the same thing but you pretty much covered it.

18 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

This isn't anything like the 2015 season for me. I felt basically the same way you felt during/after the 2015 season but this is nowhere close to that, imo. 

There is an influx of younger talent that have not been given a full off-season, a full camp and a full pre-season in the NFL yet.   Plus, the team has shown resiliency even when they have been down this year - nothing like 2015 when you could clearly see the team/players were done. 

Except our young talent sucks.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

It’s not a black/white thing.  Networks pander to running qbs because every 5 years, teams, HCs, and the media think that’s the "new style” of football, even though this has been a thing since the 60’s.  
 

And it’s not black/white, because the same crap applies to Tebow, Manziel, and Mayfield...not just Cam, Murray, and Lamar Jackson.

But the media does pander to running qbs, who provide more highlights.  
 

And they all either suck now or will suck later.  

He is good at commercials I’ll give him that.

Agreend. You'd think our fan base, having seen it first hand with Randall/McNabb/Vick would be a bit wiser, but I guess if you don't have it for a few years and it comes around again, you get fooled. 

Doug really protected Hurts in game 1 with his play-calls. He sort of did it against the Cardinals (lots of screens/fly routes). He really didn't do it against Dallas.

If the goal was to win the game, that's bad. If the goal was to evaluate Hurts, that's good.

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

This is a laughable take. The excuse of a diminished off season doesn't hold any water, as every single team had the exact same issue. If the Eagles were the only team to be hit by a virus and couldn't do their offseason program and the other 31 teams could, then maybe you could use that. But it's BS being spouted by Doug mostly.

And resiliency? How so? They've completely deflated in 2nd halves since Hurts was injected. If Brees had started for New Orleans, we're very likely looking at an 8 game losing streak. Resiliency, feh!

The team has looked much better for 2 1/2 games since Hurts has been starting.  This blog is the only place on the planet that still seems to be in denial of that fact. 

That said, I think the jury is still out on what will happen in the off season.

18 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

He never could. He will go down as one of the worst/overrated QB's in history. He literally had one year... thats it. 

Where trickery and a scheme got guys WIDE open and that was it for him(Rg3 basically had a year like that but not as strong of a defense)

The problem is... and It's not to be racist, but the networks pander to the african american qb's(some deserve it) and they shove Cam down our throats. I mean from when he signed until week 4ish all we heard was how the league messed up by not signing him. how Belichek is a genuis. MVP. gonna lead the patriots to the playoffs and HE BLOWS!! 

When Riverboat TRADED for Kyle Allen instead of signing Cam to the league minn should of been an eye opener for the majority of the league/media/etc

Get the F out of here with that nonsense. 

We had to deal with Minshew Mania for almost a year for F's sake.

Look, I’m not going to argue that there aren’t racial undertones in the nfl and the media.  3rd round picks now get thrown around when minorities are hired.  You can’t watch the league for 5 minutes without a race discussion.

But the qb position....money and marketability transcend race on that one.  If you are a starting qb for an nfl franchise, you are marketed and the media runs with it.  

9 hours ago, Godfather said:

I like Nasirildeen in the 3rd if he's still there. He's a versatile player who can play both S and LB. He's even played CB. He'll essentially take over Jenkins role. Kid is good. He suffered an acl tear last season but has bounced back nicely. He'll be one hell of a pickup

Oh, I agree. I like him quite a bit. After the combine workouts, I'm not sure he'll last to the third. Of course, we will have a high third for a change.

14 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Ryan Fitzpatrick, as does dozens of other QB's dont get the air time that Cam gets and yet dozens are better then Cam and Dozens eat cam up in every stat across the board. 

Cam Newton, as you guys mentioned is one of, if not the worst starting qb's in the league, and has been for years and yet continues to get the air time of Manning's, Rodgers, etc. 

 

That's not true.  When Fitzpatrick was on his "hot streak" a couple of years ago, you couldn't turn on any sports channel without hearing them talk about Fitzpatrick.  Same thing when Foles' went on his streaks.  

And Burrow, Mayfield, etc  have dominated sports networks this year.  If you can't see that, then maybe you really are a little bit racist. 

5 minutes ago, bbabraham said:

Agreed it's a running QB thing. I was going to post the same thing but you pretty much covered it.

Go back to sleep so we can start winning again would you?

Just now, eagle45 said:

Look, I’m not going to argue that there aren’t racial undertones in the nfl and the media.  3rd round picks now get thrown around when minorities are hired.  You can’t watch the league for 5 minutes without a race discussion.

But the qb position....money and marketability transcend race on that one.  If you are a starting qb for an nfl franchise, you are marketed and the media runs with it.  

It’s more about running quarterbacks than the color of their skin. There is correlation but I don’t believe it’s causation. Running QBs are flashy, different and sexy, which is why they tend to get a lot of media hype and coverage as opposed to your old school drop back passers.

9 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

Well, the answer to the Eagles' woes is obvious - play Hurts in the first half, Wentz in the second.

You may have discovered the next NFL wrinkle. 

5 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

Get the F out of here with that nonsense. 

We had to deal with Minshew Mania for almost a year for F's sake.

Yep.  Forgot about that. 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Look, I’m not going to argue that there aren’t racial undertones in the nfl and the media. 

There definitely are. It's harder to be a black HC than a white HC. Look at the college game. Look at the lack of head coaches at the NFL level. Just 3 years ago, we had people saying Lamar Jackson should be a WR instead of a QB. 

Conversely, how many white CBs are there in the league? (I believe the answer is still zero). There are less than 5 white RBs. That's not a coincidence that athlete positions are heavily tilted. 

People hire/recruit what they know/are used to.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

 

Take away 3... Dallas' D is bottom 5 in the NFL.   

1 minute ago, greend said:

Go back to sleep so we can start winning again would you?

We all know it's the only way we're going to get a GM and/or coaching change this off season 😞

Just now, greend said:

You may have discovered the next NFL wrinkle. 

After all the stupid things this franchise has done in the last 2 years, I’m not sure if having separate 1st and 2nd half qbs would even raise an eyebrow at this point.

Just now, eagle45 said:

After all the stupid things this franchise has done in the last 2 years, I’m not sure if having separate 1st and 2nd half qbs would even raise an eyebrow at this point.

Bad part is Doug would do the wrong game plan for the wrong q.b.

1 minute ago, RLC said:

There definitely are. It's harder to be a black HC than a white HC. Look at the college game. Look at the lack of head coaches at the NFL level. Just 3 years ago, we had people saying Lamar Jackson should be a WR instead of a QB. 

Conversely, how many white CBs are there in the league? (I believe the answer is still zero). There are less than 5 white RBs. That's not a coincidence that athlete positions are heavily tilted. 

People hire/recruit what they know/are used to.

I think Lamar Jackson should be a wr.

1 hour ago, DeathByEagle said:

IDK, Hurts didnt look that bad when the game play was balanced. Seamed to me when Doug went full blown Doug was when Hurts fell apart. Kind of what Wentz had to deal with all season. 

Shocking development.

10 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

 

But the qb position....money and marketability transcend race on that one.  If you are a starting qb for an nfl franchise, you are marketed and the media runs with it.  

This. 

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

I like Smith as a college WR.  He's been incredible to watch at Bama.  However, there are guys who are just better in college than they will be in the NFL and DeVonta Smith just jumps off as one of those guys to me.  I just don't see his game translating to the next level, especially at the cost of a premium 1st round pick.  There are about 10 WR right now in college who are going to be very solid pros.  If Chase is gone, I want a CB or trade back.  

I know it's a tough comparison but you know who else was 175 pounds and set all sorts of records in college?  Donnel Pumphrey.  

I think there's an argument that Surtain or Farley would be a better pick than Chase.  I think it's easier to find a productive WR with a later round pick than a productive CB.  

25 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

That's not true. 

The Networks pander to whatever QB is hot or the new "thing".  They've continuosly propped up just about every QB that has played well over the years....Brady, Rodgers, Favre, Manning, etc and even 'hot streak" guys like Fitzpatrick (how do you think the  "Fitzmagic" monicker became so popular?) 

If they've been "stars" or "hot" at some point in the league, they've been "pandered" to.  

 

You forgot Gardener Minshew.

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think there's an argument that Surtain or Farley would be a better pick than Chase.  I think it's easier to find a productive WR with a later round pick than a productive CB.  

It’s hard to find a productive CB because it’s hard to be a CB in this league.

The best cbs in the nfl can’t slow down a great passing offense anymore.  
 

So I’m not sure there is top 10 value at the cb position for any prospect at this point.  I’d rather just have 5 good dbs.  
 

One elite cb plus our safeties and an aging Slay doesn’t change the complexion or future of this team.