4 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

I think some of it is due to scheme and other teams recognizing plays. I think our coaches and Doug are sloppy when it comes to changing things up.  How many times have we seen "kill, kill" use to audible to a run play over the past few years?

It’s definitely some of that however I just don’t think they’re all that talented. Taking alshon and desean out of it because they’re older and not reliable to play every week, what other wide receivers do you have on that team that would be capable of starting on another team? The only one I see as a legitimate starter on another franchise today would be Jalen Reagor. The rest of the guys are back ups or projects or bust. I like Greg ward but on most teams he’s just a back up.

2 minutes ago, greend said:

Cam Newton is a story and it's not because he's black. 

Why is he a story.  Has a losing record, has 5 passing TD's vs 10 INT's.  He is done.  

1 minute ago, Ipiggles said:

If there are 4 -6 teams with worse group of wr's than the eagles, I'd be shocked. 

If there were 2 I’d be. 

1 minute ago, Ipiggles said:

If there are 4 -6 teams with worse group of wr's than the eagles, I'd be shocked. 

That was at the beginning of the year when we went through it. I think the three worse WR groups in the league are eagles, Jets and Patriots 

50 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Huntley got caught in the numbers game. With all the injuries it's hard to justify a spot to a guy whose only going to do KR's.

I hear your point but what does Clement do?  He only plays ST.  If they can't coach up Huntley to do the bare minimum on ST to contribute then that falls back on Fipp.  

The Eagles have shown how poor they are at utilizing roster spots.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s definitely some of that however I just don’t think they’re all that talented. Taking alshon and desean out of it because they’re older and not reliable to play every week, what other wide receivers do you have on that team that would be capable of starting on another team? The only one I see as a legitimate starter on another franchise today would be Jalen Reagor. The rest of the guys are back ups or projects or bus. I like Greg ward but on most teams he’s just a back up.

I think we are in the bottom half of the League with WR play. But, I would say that our coaches helped stunt the development of Fulgham.  If you have a guy who is in the zone, you don't pull him for an aging guy that is just trying to get back to health and who might never be the same guy.  Also, our coaches didn't know how to use Tate when we traded for him. Also, you see the Raiders using Agholor differently by playing more to his strengths which is speed and vertical vs. working underneath.  We are one of the worst teams when it comes to developing WRs and I've noticed DBs on other teams running the WRs routes before our WRs run them. They often know when it is a quick out vs. a slant vs. a go.  I don't think the coaches are changing the game plans enough or calling plays to set up other plays.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

That was at the beginning of the year when we went through it. I think the three worse WR groups in the league are eagles, Jets and Patriots 

There are 45 WR's that have more catches than our leading receiver.  8 WR's have more catches than our top two WR's combined.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

That was at the beginning of the year when we went through it. I think the three worse WR groups in the league are eagles, Jets and Patriots 

And just a guess here, they both at least have better oline situations than we do? I cant imagine any team having a worse situation, since, we set the league record for highest number of different starting Combo's in a single year at 13, and we are still counting....

So top 3 worst WR's in the league and the worst Oline in the league. And we wonder why our QB play is horrible?  LOL

Just now, downundermike said:

Why is he a story.  Has a losing record, has 5 passing TD's vs 10 INT's.  He is done.  

So being done isn't a story? I mean pretty much every headline I read today about that game is questioning whether he's done. Pretty much everyone thought the great Bill Bellicheat could transform him into the star he should be and it hasn't happened. That's a freakin story.

To me old man Brady going to the Bucs and playing decently says more to me about his talent than all the years he cheated up in New England. Brady has some talent, Bellicheat should have retired.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

I hear your point but what does Clement do?  He only plays ST.  If they can't coach up Huntley to do the bare minimum on ST to contribute then that falls back on Fipp.  

The Eagles have shown how poor they are at utilizing roster spots.

Clement shouldn't be on the team. I appreciate what he did for us in 2017. But, he isn't as quick now and he gives this roster nothing in terms of versatility. He isn't an effective returner.

One take I don’t understand:

"Keep Doug, but force him to give up play calling and force him to fire his staff”

Anyone who feels this way, I don’t get it. If you respect Doug so little that you strip him down to bare bones, remove all his responsibilities and don’t trust him to call plays or pick a staff, why would you want him back? It doesn’t make any sense.

4 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

If there were 2 I’d be. 

Do I hear 1?

8 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

I think we are in the bottom half of the League with WR play. But, I would say that our coaches helped stunt the development of Fulgham.  If you have a guy who is in the zone, you don't pull him for an aging guy that is just trying to get back to health and who might never be the same guy.  Also, our coaches didn't know how to use Tate when we traded for him. Also, you see the Raiders using Agholor differently by playing more to his strengths which is speed and vertical vs. working underneath.  We are one of the worst teams when it comes to developing WRs and I've noticed DBs on other teams running the WRs routes before our WRs run them. They often know when it is a quick out vs. a slant vs. a go.  I don't think the coaches are changing the game plans enough or calling plays to set up other plays.

I think a major issue is they don’t play to the strengths of their personnel. I’ve talked about this for about two years now that this team refuses to acknowledge the personnel that it has and adjust accordingly to that until about December. Except this December it caught up to him that they were able to overcome the ineptitude of the early season. That’s been a problem for the Eagles. They don’t know how to incorporate the personnel they have until way too late and they don’t play to the strengths of the guys that they do have.

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I hear your point but what does Clement do?  He only plays ST.  If they can't coach up Huntley to do the bare minimum on ST to contribute then that falls back on Fipp.  

The Eagles have shown how poor they are at utilizing roster spots.

Doug has been too loyal to certain players. Football is best coached without a conscience. 

35 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

So? Would you prefer we didn’t have open receivers? This place is ridiculous sometimes. 

Sure.  You could take it that way or you could realize that Dallas sucks and getting open receivers against Dallas isn't a great accomplishment.  Its better that they were open than not, but then again, if the QB can't get the ball to them because the OL can't hold up, or the QB can't find them, it's really rather inconsequential, isn't it?   And asking a QB that's not finding them, and an OL that can't protect to do it so much as they continue to fail is just hubris.  Change the plan and do what the players on the field can actually execute.  RUN THE BALL.   Take some pressure off both of them.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think a major issue is they don’t play to the strengths of their personnel. I’ve talked about this for about two years now that this team refuses to acknowledge the personal that it has and adjust accordingly to that until about December. Except this December it caught up to him that they were able to overcome the ineptitude of the early season. That’s been a problem for the Eagles. They don’t know how to incorporate the personal they have until way too late and they don’t play to the strengths of the guys that they do have.

Yep.  Also, this is a minor thing, but they never use Greg Ward on a trick pass play. He was a college QB, so you would figure at some point we would see it over the past couple of years?  Now watch Doug call it this week against Washington and it will probably help us win a game we shouldn't want to win.  But, most coaches call plays to set up other plays later in the game. You don't see that with Doug. So, if they run a reverse, you won't see a fake reverse later on to get the defense to bite. There is no logic in the playcalling.

33 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

It’s still a dumb comment. I get that it’s a terrible year, but we don’t have to S over every little scrap of positivity. 

Don't bother.

  The guys in this blog that want Pederson gone want him gone no matter how much evidence you show, including film, that shows he's been doing a good job.

  And since their secondary agenda is wanting Howie gone, saying that the WR's Howie brought in are actually getting open, further hurts their cause.  Most of them want to gut the entire coaching staff, half the team and the front office... so of course that's the sort of responses you're going to get. 

3 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

And just a guess here, they both at least have better oline situations than we do? I cant imagine any team having a worse situation, since, we set the league record for highest number of different starting Combo's in a single year at 13, and we are still counting....

So top 3 worst WR's in the league and the worst Oline in the league. And we wonder why our QB play is horrible?  LOL

I honestly think people want it to just be only the quarterback because then they could believe in the hope that it’s just a quarterback away from being fixed. The fractures and broken offense is QB and a multitude of other factors.

 It’s why all season I have been saying the problems with this team run deeper than just a quarterback. if you’re going to go with the reasoning will all starts with the quarterback I called Bs. Ryan Tannehill left Miami and became a pro bowl caliber type quarterback and Miami up until this year had still been awful even when Fitzpatrick had good stretches. Was he a problem down there as well? Yes but it doesn’t always start at just a quarterback. It can be equally shared amongst a multitude of things. If your coaching stinks, the offensive line stinks, roster construction stinks and Qb is stinking up the joint as well then it’s an entire offensive problem. 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think a major issue is they don’t play to the strengths of their personnel. I’ve talked about this for about two years now that this team refuses to acknowledge the personal that it has and adjust accordingly to that until about December. Except this December it caught up to him that they were able to overcome the ineptitude of the early season. That’s been a problem for the Eagles. They don’t know how to incorporate the personal they have until way too late and they don’t play to the strengths of the guys that they do have.

What are the strengths of big, slow, receivers that have boards for hands? Alshon should have been benched and JJAW cut. Then we could talk about the strengths of the young guys. 

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

One take I don’t understand:

"Keep Doug, but force him to give up play calling and force him to fire his staff”

Anyone who feels this way, I don’t get it. If you respect Doug so little that you strip him down to bare bones, remove all his responsibilities and don’t trust him to call plays or pick a staff, why would you want him back? It doesn’t make any sense.

I don't agree with the take but Doug is good at bonding with the players and keeping them invested. Even after this terrible year I don't think he's lost the locker room. He'd basically just be a better Jason Garrett. But the team needs more than that. 

34 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

It’s still a dumb comment. I get that it’s a terrible year, but we don’t have to S over every little scrap of positivity. 

Not a dumb comment.  It's a true statement.   The Dallas defense is one of the worst in the entire league, so if the goal is to get open against them, then great.   That's a pretty low bar to clear.   But, the bigger issue isn't about whether or not they were open, but whether or not sticking almost exclusively to the pass was really the best move, whether they were open or not. 

 

Defense is struggling mightily... running the ball keeps them off the field.

OL is struggling mightily... running the ball lets them be the aggressors.

QB is struggling to find the open receivers... running the ball allows him to relax a little more and not have the pressure on every single snap.

I'm not saying that running the ball gets the team a W, but it might have helped a lot of the issues.  But, Doug decided that since guys were open, he'd just keep calling passing plays expecting that the OL would magically improve or that Hurts would be better at finding the open guys.   

1 minute ago, CaliEagle said:

I think we are in the bottom half of the League with WR play. But, I would say that our coaches helped stunt the development of Fulgham.  If you have a guy who is in the zone, you don't pull him for an aging guy that is just trying to get back to health and who might never be the same guy.  Also, our coaches didn't know how to use Tate when we traded for him. Also, you see the Raiders using Agholor differently by playing more to his strengths which is speed and vertical vs. working underneath.  We are one of the worst teams when it comes to developing WRs and I've noticed DBs on other teams running the WRs routes before our WRs run them. They often know when it is a quick out vs. a slant vs. a go.  I don't think the coaches are changing the game plans enough or calling plays to set up other plays.

That’s the thing. We’ve brought in a lot of WRs in the past 3 years that have been productive before/continue to be productive after. What are the odds that all of them decided to play like crap here. 
 

Even JJAW, coming out of college his strengths were tough contested catches in traffic. It was never getting separation deep. He comes here and they have him running go routes deep while they have small fast guys like Reagor and Hightower running curls and fades. How does that make any sense? How does that help them succeed? Would anyone really be surprised if JJAW turned out to be a decent player after he left here? 

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think a major issue is they don’t play to the strengths of their personnel. I’ve talked about this for about two years now that this team refuses to acknowledge the personnel that it has and adjust accordingly to that until about December. Except this December it caught up to him that they were able to overcome the ineptitude of the early season. That’s been a problem for the Eagles. They don’t know how to incorporate the personnel they have until way too late and they don’t play to the strengths of the guys that they do have.

Yep.  This, IMO is the #1 reason why this coaching staff should not come back.  They have talented players but they just refuse to use them to the best of their abilities.  They would rather have the players try to fit a certain scheme.  It's maddening.  JJAW and Reagor are perfect examples.  JJAW has shown that he isn't quick but the one thing he can do is highpoint the football.  Did we see just 1 fade go his direction?  No.  Reagor has all of the tools to be a great gadget type player.  Get him in space, get the ball in his hands with some blockers and let him do work.  No, they want him running routes, something he isn't good at yet.

We all know the arguments to get Carson out of the pocket where he's best.  Doug refuses to and then after the games gives us the old " I need to do a better job of that or I could have called more plays this way".

Then there's the defensive side of the ball...don't get me started.  

It's such poor coaching.  They don't play to strengths.  I can't think of more than 5 players who have taken a next step or improved their game from year to year.  

32 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Someone said the last hour, so I looked at the last your of his posts.  There is a some truth to that statement, when it comes to Cam Newton.  

So you agree with Bacarty that the reason Cam Newton is getting media coverage is because he's African American? 

6 minutes ago, greend said:

What are the strengths of big, slow, receivers that have boards for hands? Alshon should have been benched and JJAW cut. Then we could talk about the strengths of the young guys. 

JJAW was never given the chance to shine where he plays best...in the red zone, high pointing a football.  That's the one thing that jumped off his Stanford tape.  Don't get me wrong, he's clearly a bust but they never once called a play to take advantage of what he's good at.