4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Don't bother.

  The guys in this blog that want Pederson gone want him gone no matter how much evidence you show, including film, that shows he's been doing a good job.

  And since their secondary agenda is wanting Howie gone, saying that the WR's Howie brought in are actually getting open, further hurts their cause.  Most of them want to gut the entire coaching staff, half the team and the front office... so of course that's the sort of responses you're going to get. 

Sure.  And there's even more evidence of a poorly coached team all around.  You don't have to look hard for it.  Just watch a game, watch the penalties build up.  Watch the players not develop and get better each year they are on the team, but rather regress... and then tell me how great the coaching staff is. 

From 2017 to now... can you name 5 offensive players that have actually progressed rather than regressed?   How about 5 defensive players?  Maybe a ST player that's improved?  

 

I'll wait for the list.  

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

JJAW was never given the chance to shine where he plays best...in the red zone, high pointing a football.  That's the one thing that jumped off his Stanford tape.  Don't get me wrong, he's clearly a bust but they never once called a play to take advantage of what he's good at.  

That play went to Hakeem Butler, in his first ever NFL snap.   Isn't that a good plan?

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

So you agree with Bacarty that the reason Cam Newton is getting media coverage is because he's African American? 

Of course he does.  If the shoe fits...

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Sure.  And there's even more evidence of a poorly coached team all around.  You don't have to look hard for it.  Just watch a game, watch the penalties build up.  Watch the players not develop and get better each year they are on the team, but rather regress... and then tell me how great the coaching staff is. 

From 2017 to now... can you name 5 offensive players that have actually progressed rather than regressed?   How about 5 defensive players?  Maybe a ST player that's improved?  

 

I'll wait for the list.  

i don’t know why you bother with him. The hypocrisy he speaks with is amazing. He literally does the same exact thing he’s complaining about with people on the blog. the guy defending an offense that has scored on average 4.3 points per game in the second half of games over the last 3 weeks when adjustments are made to the eagles original game plan and the eagles have little to no counter adjustment. And there’s been video and film to prove that on here. There’s also been video of reagor running bad and poor routes. Also video of alshon shoving guys to get open. Also evidence of hurts taking off as guys don’t get open or him missing guys while are open like a miles sanders late in the third quarter. But he casually just ignores that evidence or film when it’s brought up on the blog cause his agenda would be ruined. There’s been plenty of evidence and film showing poor execution, multitude of penalties and a struggling second half offense for 3 weeks. 

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

JJAW was never given the chance to shine where he plays best...in the red zone, high pointing a football.  That's the one thing that jumped off his Stanford tape.  Don't get me wrong, he's clearly a bust but they never once called a play to take advantage of what he's good at.  

I sure as hell hope he didn't get drafted where he was drafted just to highpoint an occasional end zone throw. He has been given opportunities to high point the ball on the field though and failed miserably.

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

That play went to Hakeem Butler, in his first ever NFL snap.   Isn't that a good plan?

That's why this team is so incredibly frustrating.  Why give that to Butler?  Why not draw that play up for JJAW just once?  Heck you never know, maybe a few successful catches turns his confidence around and he becomes a player.  We are all seeing how the mental side of things affects players.  Maybe the Eagles need to employ a better Sports Psychiatrist to evaluate the mental toughness of potential Eagles.

6 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

So you agree with Bacarty that the reason Cam Newton is getting media coverage is because he's African American? 

If you can give me another reason I would be more than happy to hear it.  CJ Beathard has way better numbers, probably just eliminated the Cardinals from the playoffs last Sunday in their own stadium, and I am not hearing anything about him in the media ??  Why is Cam getting any coverage.  He is the QB for the 10th best team in the AFC, and his stats are attrocious.

Just now, greend said:

I sure as hell hope he didn't get drafted where he was drafted just to highpoint an occasional end zone throw. He has been given opportunities to high point the ball on the field though and failed miserably.

No, not saying that's the reason he was drafted but when you do watch his tape it's the one thing that clearly stands out.  

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

my issue with cam Newton has always been he never learned how to be a better passer. And even going back to when the Eagles lost that game to cam Newton in 2018 it looks like he’s shot putting the ball to get the ball down field. Amazing about his 2018 was his completion percentage was the highest of his career and the biggest outlier because he had to throw the ball short because he couldn’t throw it down the field due to his shoulder. The injuries he’s had and the fact that he never learn to become a better passer so he could still be an upper echelon QB when his athleticism and running ability as he got older started to deteriorate

Don't know if you meant it but there is a bit of foreshadowing there for the Eagle's currently benched QB. The one thing Wentz needs to say and do is recognize his issues as a passer and commit to correcting them because he wants to realize his full potential. Newton is a cautionary tale. You had mentioned Josh Allen earlier and the weapons the Bills got for him. Absolutely correct and Diggs is better than advertised. The other side of Allen's success is that he fixed a flaw in his throwing mechanics. From Allen "My arm and my shoulder were basically beating my hip and my chest to the actual point of release. It's really not what you're supposed to do,” Allen explained to Collinsworth. ... "It didn't make sense because my hips were not being incorporated at all in my throwing motion.” Dec 11, 2020. 

Wentz needs a personal coach who can evaluate his mechanics, take into consideration whatever lasting issues there are from his knee and back, and put him on an intense program to increase his accuracy. Eliminating the overthrows alone would probably get him back to elite. The fact that there are crickets around this topic from the Eagles for Wentz is very worrisome when Newton is out there as the example of how not to approach your craft and how the "superman" mentality can ultimately limit potential.

Just now, downundermike said:

If you can give me another reason I would be more than happy to hear it.  CJ Beathard has way better numbers, probably just eliminated the Cardinals from the playoffs last Sunday in their own stadium, and I am not hearing anything about him in the media ??  Why is Cam getting any coverage.  He is the QB for the 10th best team in the AFC, and his stats are attrocious.

It was a New England game. Why would Beathard get coverage there?  

2 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

Don't know if you meant it but there is a bit of foreshadowing there for the Eagle's currently benched QB. The one thing Wentz needs to say and do is recognize his issues as a passer and commit to correcting them because he wants to realize his full potential. Newton is a cautionary tale. You had mentioned Josh Allen earlier and the weapons the Bills got for him. Absolutely correct and Diggs is better than advertised. The other side of Allen's success is that he fixed a flaw in his throwing mechanics. From Allen "My arm and my shoulder were basically beating my hip and my chest to the actual point of release. It's really not what you're supposed to do,” Allen explained to Collinsworth. ... "It didn't make sense because my hips were not being incorporated at all in my throwing motion.” Dec 11, 2020. 

Wentz needs a personal coach who can evaluate his mechanics, take into consideration whatever lasting issues there are from his knee and back, and put him on an intense program to increase his accuracy. Eliminating the overthrows alone would probably get him back to elite. The fact that there are crickets around this topic from the Eagles for Wentz is very worrisome when Newton is out there as the example of how not to approach your craft and how the "superman" mentality can ultimately limit potential.

Agree 100%

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

i don’t know why you bother with him. The hypocrisy he speaks with is amazing. He literally does the same exact thing he’s complaining about with people on the blog. the guy defending an offense that has scored on average 4.3 points per game in the second half of games over the last 3 weeks when adjustments are made to the eagles original game plan and the eagles have little to no counter adjustment. And there’s been video and film to prove that on here. There’s also been video of reagor running bad and poor routes. Also video of alshon shoving guys to get open. Also evidence of hurts taking off as guys don’t get open or him missing guys while are open like a miles sanders late in the third quarter. But he casually just ignores that evidence or film when it’s brought up on the blog cause his agenda would be ruined. There’s been plenty of evidence and film showing poor execution, multitude of penalties and a struggling second half offense for 3 weeks. 

I don't know either.  

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

If you can give me another reason I would be more than happy to hear it.  CJ Beathard has way better numbers, probably just eliminated the Cardinals from the playoffs last Sunday in their own stadium, and I am not hearing anything about him in the media ??  Why is Cam getting any coverage.  He is the QB for the 10th best team in the AFC, and his stats are attrocious.

Lol cam is a former MVP and took his team to the Super Bowl.  He’s more accomplished than Carson Wentz.  When were you and your boy bacarty clamoring for the media to ignore your beloved Carson???

6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

That's why this team is so incredibly frustrating.  Why give that to Butler?  Why not draw that play up for JJAW just once?  Heck you never know, maybe a few successful catches turns his confidence around and he becomes a player.  We are all seeing how the mental side of things affects players.  Maybe the Eagles need to employ a better Sports Psychiatrist to evaluate the mental toughness of potential Eagles.

It isn't frustrating, apparently it's a well coached team.   Giving that to Butler was a brilliant decision because no team would be expecting it.

16 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Don't bother.

  The guys in this blog that want Pederson gone want him gone no matter how much evidence you show, including film, that shows he's been doing a good job.

  And since their secondary agenda is wanting Howie gone, saying that the WR's Howie brought in are actually getting open, further hurts their cause.  Most of them want to gut the entire coaching staff, half the team and the front office... so of course that's the sort of responses you're going to get. 

If Doug is doing a good job calling the plays of this offense and the problem is execution, the fault still lies with Doug.  The team has not had a dynamic offensive attack since 2017.  I think a big part of that falls on Howie and his poor roster management from the draft to free agency.  Part of it still falls on Doug who has repeatedly fielded teams that make basic mistakes from stupid penalties to poor execution in every game this season.  Right now this team plays as poorly as any of the worst teams in the League. 

6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

If you can give me another reason I would be more than happy to hear it.  CJ Beathard has way better numbers, probably just eliminated the Cardinals from the playoffs last Sunday in their own stadium, and I am not hearing anything about him in the media ??  Why is Cam getting any coverage.  He is the QB for the 10th best team in the AFC, and his stats are attrocious.

Cam Newton is a former league MVP.

9 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

Don't know if you meant it but there is a bit of foreshadowing there for the Eagle's currently benched QB. The one thing Wentz needs to say and do is recognize his issues as a passer and commit to correcting them because he wants to realize his full potential. Newton is a cautionary tale. You had mentioned Josh Allen earlier and the weapons the Bills got for him. Absolutely correct and Diggs is better than advertised. The other side of Allen's success is that he fixed a flaw in his throwing mechanics. From Allen "My arm and my shoulder were basically beating my hip and my chest to the actual point of release. It's really not what you're supposed to do,” Allen explained to Collinsworth. ... "It didn't make sense because my hips were not being incorporated at all in my throwing motion.” Dec 11, 2020. 

Wentz needs a personal coach who can evaluate his mechanics, take into consideration whatever lasting issues there are from his knee and back, and put him on an intense program to increase his accuracy. Eliminating the overthrows alone would probably get him back to elite. The fact that there are crickets around this topic from the Eagles for Wentz is very worrisome when Newton is out there as the example of how not to approach your craft and how the "superman" mentality can ultimately limit potential.

I’ve been of the side that Carson Wentz mechanics have been inconsistent since 2018. There’s games where he looks great with it and then there’s games were he’s just not good at all with it. That’s been a major problem of his is the consistency from week to week with his mechanics. Some of these balls he sailing is because his mechanics are just out of whack that week. In 2017 he had games were his mechanics weren’t great but the following week you knew he was gonna have them straightEd out because they were hard on him about it. It’s why he had so much consistency in 2017. Even down the stretch last year his mechanics weren’t always great. The first half of that first Giants game his mechanics were all over the place. Even in the Dallas game that they won the reason why Zach Ertz got hurt was because he used poor mechanics on that throat. Better mechanics is an easy pitch and catch and Zach Ertz doesn’t get a lacerated kidney. 

I don’t disagree they dramatically helped Josh Allen with his mechanics. He needed a massive change in his mechanics when he came out of Wyoming. He had accuracy issues there and it wasn’t just against better competition it was against the competition in that conference to. That was always an issue and they needed to correct. They did a tremendous job fixing that problem because he looks much more like a natural throw. It helps that they got him weapons around him like Diggs. I always kind of felt diggs was inconsistent because of the inconsistency of Kirk cousins week to week. Even thielen who’s had great years with Kirk cousins has consistency issues because cousins is so up and down each week. Josh Allen from week one until now has been pretty consistent outside of like two games.

also helps if you watch the bills they get Josh Allen on the run and outside the pocket a decent amount of times. Don’t get me wrong he is making plays from the pocket but they’re also catering to the fact he’s mobile enough and big enough to withstand some hits that if you get him on the roll out and then you can suck some defenders in thinking he’s going to takeoff with his legs. When the defense tried to stop him from running  he’s able to riffle it over the defender and get yards.

4 minutes ago, downundermike said:

If you can give me another reason I would be more than happy to hear it.  CJ Beathard has way better numbers, probably just eliminated the Cardinals from the playoffs last Sunday in their own stadium, and I am not hearing anything about him in the media ??  Why is Cam getting any coverage.  He is the QB for the 10th best team in the AFC, and his stats are attrocious.

It's not because he's African American and to assume that is racist.

 

When Carson Wentz was benched, you couldn't turn on the TV without hearing about Wentz getting benched.  It was talked about and it still dominates Eagles' games coverage and Wentz has a 73 QB rating, currently on the beach.  So your reasoning is not only nonsensical, it's blatantly racist. 

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

If Doug is doing a good job calling the plays of this offense and the problem is execution, the fault still lies with Doug.  The team has not had a dynamic offensive attack since 2017.  I think a big part of that falls on Howie and his poor roster management from the draft to free agency.  Part of it still falls on Doug who has repeatedly fielded teams that make basic mistakes from stupid penalties to poor execution in every game this season.  Right now this team plays as poorly as any of the worst teams in the League. 

The record doesn't lie... this team is one of the worst in the League.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Cam Newton is a former league MVP.

Also what other player can you talk about on the Patriots? They have no other notable offensive player.  

10 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

No, not saying that's the reason he was drafted but when you do watch his tape it's the one thing that clearly stands out.  

I wouldn't spend a lot of time designing plays for him honestly he has hands of stone. 

3 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Lol cam is a former MVP and took his team to the Super Bowl.  He’s more accomplished than Carson Wentz.  When were you and your boy bacarty clamoring for the media to ignore your beloved Carson???

So we are not allowed to talk about Carson in 2017, 18 or 19 because it is the past, but you are bringing up what Cam did in 2015, hilarious.

Cam has made the playoffs once since then, and is 0-1.

Cam's MVP season, he was 16th in passing yards, 28th in completion percentage,  8th in quarterback rating.  Brady, Brees or Wilson should have been MVP in 2015.

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Don't bother.

  The guys in this blog that want Pederson gone want him gone no matter how much evidence you show, including film, that shows he's been doing a good job.

  And since their secondary agenda is wanting Howie gone, saying that the WR's Howie brought in are actually getting open, further hurts their cause.  Most of them want to gut the entire coaching staff, half the team and the front office... so of course that's the sort of responses you're going to get. 

You can't characterize a whole group of people into one mind.  There are a multitude of reasons why Doug needs to be replaced:

-- He doesn't feed his best players.  Sanders and Reagor are the most talented weapons he has on offense, and both need more touches.  Apparently Sanders gets fatigued and Greg Ward is a better punt returner than Reagor in Doug's world.

-- Travis Fulgham was his most productive player on offense; all it took was Jeffery to be cleared for games and Fulgham's snaps went down.  It's been posted in here before that Fulgham's production dropped off immediately upon Jeffery being activated.

-- He refuses to balance the offense.  You can go back to the 2017 season and look at the rushing totals; the Eagles were top 5 in the NFL in rushing yards -- and that was only when the players went to his office and begged him to run the ball after losing to KC in Week 3.  Now they abandon the run as soon as two plays get stopped

-- He doesn't understand what makes his franchise QB successful.  I've posted it many times -- Carson Wentz is 18-2 in his career when throwing 31 times or fewer; he's 17-29-1 when throwing 32 times or more.  Doug thinks it's a winning formula to throw 38, 40, 45 times per game.  It isn't now and it never has been.  He thinks Carson Wentz is Mahomes, Brady, Brees, or Rodgers -- he isn't

-- He doesn't make any adjustments during games.  That's been quite apparent in Hurts' starts even for folks who have given up on Wentz.  He watched Jacquet costing them the game against Dallas with their season on the line, and the FOX sideline reporter had to ask him if they would make some adjustments.  He said there wasn't much they could do, because they had a lot of injuries -- then after 3 more long passes, suddenly Mills is at CB, Wallace at S, and Jacquet to the bench -- too late to make a difference  

-- He caters to veteran, over-the-hill players.  No way Peters should have been moved to LT.  No way should Jeffery be playing.  Sproles was kept way too long.  

-- His in-game decision making is dreadful.  Going for it on 4th and 15 instead of kicking a FG? Ludicrous.  He has no concept of field position; goes for it constantly on 4th and medium at midfield instead of punting and playing defense.  Goes for 2 points constantly when it isn't necessary.

-- He doesn't have a clue on status of his injured players.  

 

The evidence shows he's NOT doing a good job.  He was a good head coach when helped by Reich and Defilippo.  Alone, he's way over his head.

Just now, NCiggles said:

Also what other player can you talk about on the Patriots? They have no other notable offensive player.  

Sony Michel

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

It isn't frustrating, apparently it's a well coached team.   Giving that to Butler was a brilliant decision because no team would be expecting it.

No player including Butler was either.