2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

And most Pederson and Howie haters will not be pleased when (in all likelihood) they are both back next year, Wentz is gone and they go on to have a winning season next year. 

And go ahead, feel free to quote this for prosperity. 

I still do not believe that Jeff Lurie will sign off on taking the largest dead cap hit in NFL history,  16 million more than the previous.

I am not sure how you think the Eagles can be better next year.  Eagles have to shed major salary and players, will have to spend pennies on the dollar on replacements, and count on rookies to contribute immediately.  What about the last 3 years gives you any hope that any rookie, or even second year player will have any meaningful impact under this FO and coaching staff ??  And remember, you are basing this on a QB who has led the Eagles to points on 2 of 18 second half drives, and only scored 17 points on a defense giving up 31 PPG.  Kyle Allen scored 25 on that defense.  Nick Mullens scored 33 on that defense.  

18 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Cam Newton is polarizing.  Most fans who study the game regularly know that he's overrated, but his personality and "style" (?) attract casual fans.

Yep, he's more of a celebrity than he is a professional football player.  I hate to admit it but he has all the tools for a reality TV show on VH1 once he retires.  For some reason people care about what high profile people do 24/7.

6 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

It's not because he's African American.  And since you are apparently racist, there's no further discussing this. 

I am not racist in the slightest.  Instead of deflecting and going strawman, give me a reason why a sub 500 QB on a 1 million dollar deal should get any coverage.  Maybe there should be coverage on CJ Beathard who just beat the Cardinals in their stadium who desperately needed a win to keep their playoff hopes alive.

Just once in your life, give an answer that does not change the question.  CAM DESERVES ZERO COVERAGE.

 

You ever wonder why you and your boy Arsenal on so many ignore lists ??  You can't just discuss something without changing it into something else.

43 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

JJAW was never given the chance to shine where he plays best...in the red zone, high pointing a football.  That's the one thing that jumped off his Stanford tape.  Don't get me wrong, he's clearly a bust but they never once called a play to take advantage of what he's good at.  

If he's never given the opportunity to do what he does best, can we be sure he's a bust? Not defending JJAW, more of a general observation re talent or lack thereof.

6 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

- The 4th and 15th call was a bad call, imo.  If you can't trust your kicker to make a 52 yard FG then it's probably time to replace the kicker.

Whoops.  Can't do that, because...

 

Check his contract...

The all 22 showed Doug called a great game?  I bet 75% of that was Dallas having a horrendous defense.

13 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Moving on.  Interesting breakdowns of the game.  Yes, Doug not running the ball is part of the issue, but this is an easy 1 read throw.

 

What's more alarming to me about that is that the first play of the game, the Eagles run 12 personnel with Jordan Howard as the running back.  What the F is that??? Good lord Doug.  

2 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

The all 22 showed Doug called a great game?  I bet 75% of that was Dallas having a horrendous defense.

A horrendous defense that give up 31 PPG, and we mustered 17, and could not score in the second half.  Hurts now 2 of 18 on second half drives.

8 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

they are going to go to penn st and get Parsons smh

 

🤮

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

A horrendous defense that give up 31 PPG, and we mustered 17, and could not score in the second half.  Hurts now 2 of 18 on second half drives.

Doug's offense has scored 7,6,0 in the last 3 games. Eww

3 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:

Doesnt hurt to have two very good WRs in Diggs and Beasley as well. 

Would be nice to have at least 1 stud receiver 

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Whoops.  Can't do that, because...

 

Check his contract...

Jake has sucked since he's been paid

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

What's more alarming to me about that is that the first play of the game, the Eagles run 12 personnel with Jordan Howard as the running back.  What the F is that??? Good lord Doug.  

There’s probably more to that like our pass blocking and blitz pick up from our running backs Miles Sanders and Boston Scott have not been good all year. Something that Jordan Howard is actually good at. I made a point a couple weeks ago, I don’t necessarily think they picked up Jordan Howard for running the football. I think they picked him up because they’ve noticed their pass protection and blitz pick up from the running back position has been dog crap for much of the season. really Boston Scott and Miles Sanders have regressed in that area from last year. Whatever Duce wants to claim when you watch the all 22 they have struggled routinely. 

11 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

What’s going to happen is we finally get a new DC, he is immediately going to look at the LBs and doing what we do, they are going to go to penn st and get Parsons smh

 

 

2 minutes ago, Godfather said:

🤮

I just jumped on to 4 draft sites.  Parsons is ranked as the 8th, 5th, 4th and 7th best player in this draft.

If he is the best player on the board, at the position that is weakest on your team, you take him, END OF STORY.

4 minutes ago, Godfather said:

🤮

Doug's offense has scored 7,6,0 in the last 3 games. Eww

Yep.  Teams are easily adjusted to Hurts at the half, not a good trend.  They will begin shutting him down early as more film comes out.

20 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Moving on.  Interesting breakdowns of the game.  Yes, Doug not running the ball is part of the issue, but this is an easy 1 read throw.

 

I blame Wentz

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

 

I just jumped on to 4 draft sites.  Parsons is ranked as the 8th, 5th, 4th and 7th best player in this draft.

If he is the best player on the board, at the position that is weakest on your team, you take him, END OF STORY.

I'd rather them take Surtain

7 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I am not racist in the slightest.  Instead of deflecting and going strawman, give me a reason why a sub 500 QB on a 1 million dollar deal should get any coverage.  Maybe there should be coverage on CJ Beathard who just beat the Cardinals in their stadium who desperately needed a win to keep their playoff hopes alive.

Just once in your life, give an answer that does not change the question.  CAM DESERVES ZERO COVERAGE.

 

You ever wonder why you and your boy Arsenal on so many ignore lists ??  You can't just discuss something without changing it into something else.

Apparently not only are you racist, you're illiterate as well.  I said the conversation was over. 

And congratulations, you are about to be the first person I have ever placed on my ignore list.  Well done, Mike.

 

5 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I am not racist in the slightest.  Instead of deflecting and going strawman, give me a reason why a sub 500 QB on a 1 million dollar deal should get any coverage.  Maybe there should be coverage on CJ Beathard who just beat the Cardinals in their stadium who desperately needed a win to keep their playoff hopes alive.

Just once in your life, give an answer that does not change the question.  CAM DESERVES ZERO COVERAGE.

 

You ever wonder why you and your boy Arsenal on so many ignore lists ??  You can't just discuss something without changing it into something else.

He definitely doesnt deserve coverage but it's mostly because he plays for New England.  Brady and Belichick just went thru their divorce and most fans and media want to see how they do apart and Cam happens to be Belichick's QB trying to show he can win without Brady.

If Cam was playing this bad on Jacksonville he wouldn't get much attention.  

The attention he gets is not from his play or lack thereof on the field.  It's from being in NE with Belichick and his flamboyant, emotional personality.

4 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

If he's never given the opportunity to do what he does best, can we be sure he's a bust? Not defending JJAW, more of a general observation re talent or lack thereof.

No, I agree with you.  It's hard to call players busts when we know that the coaches aren't playing to their strengths and taking advantage of what they do best.  Should they have taken JJAW over DK or Terry...no.  But here he is and they don't even dress him on game days now.  IMO, if you invest a 2nd round pick you do whatever you can to get him on the field .

JJAW has played a total of 100 snaps this year.  In those 100 snaps he only had 5 targets with 2 catches for 45 yards.  That's hardly giving the guy a chance.  He hasn't played in a game since week 8.  There is NO reason to play Alshon this Sunday.  They should start JJAW and see what he can do against a team trying to win the East.  If he fails, he fails.  But let's see what he can do.

Even Mack Hollins who didn't record a stat last year has 15 catches for 173 yards and a TD in Miami.  He's played more than 15 snaps in 5 games for them.  He isn't breaking any records but he's producing more than he did here. 

 

Just now, 315Eagles said:

He definitely doesnt deserve coverage but it's mostly because he plays for New England.  Brady and Belichick just went thru their divorce and most fans and media want to see how they do apart and Cam happens to be Belichick's QB trying to show he can win without Brady.

If Cam was playing this bad on Jacksonville he wouldn't get much attention.  

The attention he gets is not from his play or lack thereof on the field.  It's from being in NE with Belichick and his flamboyant, emotional personality.

I was about to post this exact same thing. You've said it all. 

20 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

- He could likely do a better job of going with the "hot hand" but I believe he lets his position coaches make some of those calls so if anything, he should possibly take that responsibility back.

- Travis Fulgham has dropped a myriad of passes since his "hot streak" and reports are he's not been great in practice either.

- This has been discussed ad nauseum and the primary reason, above all other reasons, is that the team is likely ahead when Carson only passes the ball 31 times or fewer.  And if your best defense of Wentz is that he's "only good when he throws the ball less than 31 times" what does that say about Wentz???

- That's simply not true and anyone who watches film and pays attention to the games knows that's not the case. (That Pederson doesn't make in game adjustments)  And of course injuries play a part in adjustments, smh.

- As far as the Peters situation goes, he was fine for the first half of the season.  When his body and injuries caught up with him, he was benched.  Simple, really.  (Yes, his PFF grade was actually on par or higher with Mailata's for the 1st half of the season.)

- The 4th and 15th call was a bad call, imo.  If you can't trust your kicker to make a 52 yard FG then it's probably time to replace the kicker.

- As far as injuries go, it's been Pederson's MO not to discuss injuries since he's been here.  He does that for a few reasons.  One, he may not know the extent...and secondly, he doesn't want their opponent to know who's 100% and who's not 100%, ESPECIALLY when half the team is banged up.

 

 

 

And most Pederson and Howie haters will not be pleased when (in all likelihood) they are both back next year, Wentz is gone and they go on to have a winning season next year. 

And go ahead, feel free to quote this for prosperity. 

 

 

 

 

I think you mean for posterity. But, bone apple tea and all that. 

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Would be nice to have at least 1 stud receiver 

I'd settle for above average at this point.

I like Jonny, but he and I disagree about Doug scheming guys open. Reagor beating a CB 1 on 1 is not "scheming guys open". It's an isolation route that Reagor won. 

Unsurprisingly, Reagor again looked good in the all-22. He's actually good.

18 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Moving on.  Interesting breakdowns of the game.  Yes, Doug not running the ball is part of the issue, but this is an easy 1 read throw.

 

 

15 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

Another 2 examples of Hurts issues throwing to the middle of the field. It’s been a recurring theme every game he’s played and is imo the reason why he can never be a legitimate starting QB. The guy can only make throws to the outside. It’s impossible to move the ball consistently when you can’t make throws to 70% of the field. 

5 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

The all 22 showed Doug called a great game?  I bet 75% of that was Dallas having a horrendous defense.

 

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

A horrendous defense that give up 31 PPG, and we mustered 17, and could not score in the second half.  Hurts now 2 of 18 on second half drives.

 

Dallas best defensive performances by points:

7 points allowed: Week 14 versus Cincinnati with Brandon Allen at QB.
17 points allowed: Eagles on Sunday.
20 points allowed: Week 1 versus Rams
23 points allowed: Eagles in Week 8.

 

This is the same team that gave up 49 to Cleveland, 41 to Washington, 39 to Atlanta, 38 to Seattle and Arizona, 34 to Giants and Baltimore, 33 to SF.

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Apparently not only are you racist, you're illiterate as well.  I said the conversation was over. 

And congratulations, you are about to be the first person I have ever placed on my ignore list.  Well done, Mike.

 

You are going full strawman, and are unable to give me any legitimate reason that Cam Newton is getting coverage that is undeserved.

I could ask the same question about Taysom Hill.  Why does he get so much coverage ??  He is hot garbage as a QB, and not even that impressive as a gadget player.  

4 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

He definitely doesnt deserve coverage but it's mostly because he plays for New England.  Brady and Belichick just went thru their divorce and most fans and media want to see how they do apart and Cam happens to be Belichick's QB trying to show he can win without Brady.

So instead of coming with a well thought out answer like this, @Ace Nova goes to the racism accusations.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

7 points allowed: Week 14 versus Cincinnati with Brandon Allen at QB.
17 points allowed: Eagles on Sunday.

So Jalen Hurts and Brandon Allen are the only QB's to not score 20 points against the Cowboys, interesting.