5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Okay?  So, Reagor’s only other path is to cut inside, and when he’s forced to do that Jaylon Smith tackles him in pursuit.

Well first of all Texas AM got shafted 

5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

So who are the top QBs of the last couple decades, Peyton (#1), Brady (6th rd), Brees (#30), Rivers (#4), Big Ben (#11), Rodgers (#24), Ryan (#3)

Now here are the QBs picked in the top ten, only Mahones has a shot at being mentioned in the same breath as the QBs above.

2019:  Murray #1, Jones #6

2018:  Mayfield #1, Darnold #3, Allen #7, Rosen #10

2017:  Trubisky #2, Mahones #10

2016:  Goff #1, Wentz #2

2015:  Winston #1, Mariota #2

2014:  Bortles #3

2013: 

2012:  Luck #1, RGIII #2, Tannehill #8

2011:  Newton #1, Locker #8, Gabbert #10

2010:  Bradford #1

2009:  Stafford #1

Newton is a former MVP who has no arm now. Stafford unfortunately is stuck at an atrocious organization. People forget how much of a joke they were before he got there. Goff went to a Super Bowl and played an outstanding second half on the road in New Orleans in the NFCCG. Luck is probably a HOFer... To say you can’t mention those 4 in the same breath as Rivers or Ryan is ridiculous. 

Just now, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Well first of all Texas AM got shafted 

Notre Dame’s fanbase >>> A&M’s fanbase 

All about the $$

11 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

CFB needs to work on achieving some parity.  Not sure how they can go about that...maybe some sort of incentive for kids to stay in state and for these schools to keep their hone grown talent.  
 

The distribution of HS football talent in the country is a LOT more uniform than the distribution of talent across CFB.

Maybe allow players who stay in state to market themselves.  

That would open up another issue though... a lot of top seniors in HS would be moving and setting up some nonsense stuff to get lined up for what they want once in college.

8 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Okay?  So, Reagor’s only other path is to cut inside, and when he’s forced to do that Jaylon Smith tackles him in pursuit.

The issue is that that defender ran right through the blockers, virtually untouched, not Reagor.

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Newton is a former MVP who has no arm now. Stafford unfortunately is stuck at an atrocious organization. People forget how much of a joke they were before he got there. Goff went to a Super Bowl and played an outstanding second half on the road in New Orleans in the NFCCG. Luck is probably a HOFer... To say you can’t mention those 4 in the same breath as Rivers or Ryan is ridiculous. 

I agree with the sentiment of Afan’s post, so I should probably step away from the boards for the evening.

The two hardest names of his to defend are a Rivers and Ryan, but they were also hyped up top 5 picks themselves.  

10 hours ago, RLC said:

Graham's on the team in 2021 for 18M, unless he retires.
In 2022, he's a UDFA. We can get him for whatever price he wants. 4M or less. Otherwise, we should let him walk. 

I'm terrified of the extension we're about to give him. I could easily see Howie give him 10M, which is just...ugh.

$2 -4 mil for a guy who made the pro bowl and was probably the most consistent player this year.

This isn't the early 2000's. 🤦🏻‍♂️😂

23 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Mahomes is a generational talent who wasn’t even close to being recognized as such on draft day.  Ditto Brady, Rodgers, and even Brees.

Sign me up for that set of outcomes over the guys who have been hyped as generational talents over the years.

The key with Brady/Rodgers/Brees/Mahomes is that they are generational producers, not generational prospects.  They went to teams with systems and talent in place...not teams that had been gutted by years of failure and the widespread talent vacuums that earn #1 overall picks....or teams that sacrificed their future picks to trade to the top.

The most reliable blueprint to success, IMO, is to use the premium picks on OL/WR and to get lucky with a smart, accurate qb who didn’t come from the absolute top of the draft.  If you put everything into the qb, you’ll never have the resources to help him succeed.

That’s probably right but it’s hard to get lucky like that. Sure, finding a Russell Wilson in round 3 would be great. 
 

Coming into the 2018 season the Bills were the bottom feeder of the league. There were jokes being made about what the spread vs Alabama would be. Two seasons later... they’re a top 2-3 team in the league.
 

They got the right coaching staff for the right QB. 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Lawrence is not a once in a decade QB prospect.

 

I agree.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

11 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

That’s probably right but it’s hard to get lucky like that. Sure, finding a Russell Wilson in round 3 would be great. 
 

Coming into the 2018 season the Bills were the bottom feeder of the league. There were jokes being made about what the spread vs Alabama would be. Two seasons later... they’re a top 2-3 team in the league.
 

They got the right coaching staff for the right QB. 

I would argue that it might...might...be easier to build an offense by stacking up the OL and WRs and trying to get lucky with multiple less valuable picks at qb than it is to dump all resources into a top of the draft qb and hope he can carry sludge on his back during his formative years and you get lucky with everyone else.  
 

 

4 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

In fairness to butler i believe he broke his hand his rookie year and then they continued to keep drafting WRs and added Hopkins so he really had no chance to make that team. 

I agree somewhat but idk.. He is a freak. I think he lacks work ethic. He should be able to stand out. 

Josh Allen is also just super talented. He was underrated in his draft class.

38 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

BTW... is anyone else tired of the same teams in the college playoff every year?   How many years have Ohio State, Clemson and Alabama been 3 of the 4? 

 

Yes but what can you do?  They are the best teams. It probably wouldn't make a difference but I'd like to see it expand to 8 teams.

Just now, 315Eagles said:

Yes but what can you do?  They are the best teams. It probably wouldn't make a difference but I'd like to see it expand to 8 teams.

8 teams makes the most sense.

 

But, what I can do is complain.

When the Eagles hire me as the GM this offseason and(  @Shocker54 as the assistant), the first thing I’d do is...

- Call Jacksonville and ask what it would take to move up to the #1 pick. Very doubtful that’s a possibility. If I was Jacksonville I’m taking Lawrence pending him refusing to play or a King’s ransom and then some is thrown my way. 
 

- Once it’s established that TL is not a possibility... I’m going all in on Wentz. Trade Hurts to the highest bidder. Whether that’s a 1st or 5th round pick. Get him out of the building and bring in a veteran backup not named Nick Foles. Assure Wentz that he’s your guy. The Eagles then pick anywhere from 3-10. If there isn’t a sure thing at WR or LT I’d look to trade back. If Wentz takes a crap in 2021 you’ll have to be ready to put yourself in a position for a new QB in 2022. 
 

If Wentz insists he doesn’t want to be an Eagle anymore... then might as well trade his ass to the highest bidder and bring back Foles. 

41 minutes ago, vsptroops said:

Same here. Granted, I still watch but it is kind of boring when you have the same teams every year. Unfortunately, unless they decide to expand the playoffs, we are most likely gonna keep seeing more of the same. 

I watch too but I fully expect Bama to blow out ND.  At least Ohio st and Clemson might be good.

Hey gents.  Looking for the words.  A lot of expected and unexpected.   I suggest we set up bingo cards for next season.  

 

FYI...I'll open the offseason blog (rather than the playoff blog) early next week.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

8 teams makes the most sense.

 

But, what I can do is complain.

I think something needs to be done to level the playing field.  When it comes to sports leagues, I am a socialist.  
 

 

8 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I would argue that it might...might...be easier to build an offense by stacking up the OL and WRs and trying to get lucky with multiple less valuable picks at qb than it is to dump all resources into a top of the draft qb and hope he can carry sludge on his back during his formative years and you get lucky with everyone else.  
 

 

It might... look at the 2017 Vikings. Good O-Line, Good WRs, Good run game, low end starter/high end backup QB. It’s hard to say the Eagles were in the same situation because in the two most important games in franchise history the Eagles low end starter/high end backup looked like a HOFer. 

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Hey gents.  Looking for the words.  A lot of expected and unexpected.   I suggest we set up bingo cards for next season.  

 

FYI...I'll open the offseason blog (rather than the playoff blog) early next week.

Might as well open it now to beat the traffic.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

I think something needs to be done to level the playing field.  When it comes to sports leagues, I am a socialist.  
 

 

It’s absolutely ridiculous a team can go undefeated and not be able to win a championship. I don’t care if they play in the MAC or Sun Belt. 

26 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I agree with the sentiment of Afan’s post, so I should probably step away from the boards for the evening.

The two hardest names of his to defend are a Rivers and Ryan, but they were also hyped up top 5 picks themselves.  

There could be multiple #1-worthy QBs in a certain draft.  So narrowing the analysis at specifically #1 is cherry picking.  A first-round QB is subject to coaching and the situation around him.  Many QBs are chosen #1 by franchises that are picking first for a reason.  Think about David Carr and the situation he walked into.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Might as well open it now to beat the traffic.

Maybe I'll split the baby and wait till the new year.

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I think something needs to be done to level the playing field.  When it comes to sports leagues, I am a socialist.  
 

 

These HS kids can choose to go wherever they want.  They know their best chance of making the NFL is going to Bama, Clemson, Ohio St, etc.

I'm not sure what their recruiting classes are like but teams like Florida St., Florida, Miami, USC, Texas used to be top teams.  Would like to see some of them back near the top to compete with Bama and Clemson.

10 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

It’s absolutely ridiculous a team can go undefeated and not be able to win a championship. I don’t care if they play in the MAC or Sun Belt. 

That's why they should expand to 8 teams.  Give them a chance.  But 9 out of 10 times those MAC or Sun Belt teams will get destroyed.

18 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Maybe I'll split the baby and wait till the new year.

Let the baby live.