1 minute ago, eglz1 said:

Jeffrey Lurie (or any other owner) has no/none/zip/nada obligation to the fans or the community. If he had partners or investors his obligation would be to them. As it is, if Lurie isn't making enough money he might be inclined to sell the team. If governments make his life difficult he might do enough (campaign contributions?) to mollify them. Do you REALLY think Jeffrey Lurie cares what you or I think?

Completely and totally wrong on every level.  The team is worth exactly nothing without the fans and community.  Lurie isn't the first owner of the team, and will not be the last.

The owner of any sports team holds that team in trust for the community and the fans.  Lurie actually knows this, and so yes, he does really care what the fans think.  He has never needed money -- in fact, purchasing the Eagles was the best financial decision he ever made with his considerable inherited wealth, by a long shot -- but he does appear to seek to be successful as an owner, and the various accolades and validation that comes along with that.

The challenge we have here, as is the case with any team with a non-self made, inherited wealth owner, is they tend to be severely lacking in a business sense and in overall life experience, and this tends to make them less effective in running an organization.  There are exceptions, such as when a family owns a team for a long time, has success and develops a culture and framework to sustain that success.  The team becomes a "family business" and a successful one.  When rich-guy Jr. is ready to take the reigns from dear old dad, he is ready to continue what works.  If he can innovate enough, as needed, but stay true to the core principles and maintain the culture, the team success continues.  The steelers are one example.  The Giants are an example where it hasn't worked out quite as well.

In any case, Lurie does very much care and he wants to succeed.  I think he may be lacking the skill set necessary to lead an organization of the significance and scale of the Eagles, and probably needs more help.  Retaining Roseman would be evidence of that, for sure.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Why on God's green earth would you put the person who created the mess in charge of fixing it?    Do you hire an incompetent plumber to fix the sink after he floods the kitchen?   Hire the electrician that caused an electrical fire in your house with faulty wiring to fix it?

 

That would be stupid.

Maybe someone should check Luries house

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Why on God's green earth would you put the person who created the mess in charge of fixing it?    Do you hire an incompetent plumber to fix the sink after he floods the kitchen?   Hire the electrician that caused an electrical fire in your house with faulty wiring to fix it?

 

That would be stupid.

I totally agree with you, but I find it hard to believe, as much as I want it, that Jeff will 100% cut ties with Howie.  

5 minutes ago, John_C said:

The owner of any sports team holds that team in trust for the community and the fans.  Lurie actually knows this, and so yes, he does really care what the fans think.  He has never needed money -- in fact, purchasing the Eagles was the best financial decision he ever made with his considerable inherited wealth, by a long shot -- but he does appear to seek to be successful as an owner, and the various accolades and validation that comes along with that.

And he is buddies with Robert Kraft, the guy who has all the success and accolades.

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I totally agree with you, but I find it hard to believe, as much as I want it, that Jeff will 100% cut ties with Howie.  

Then Lurie is acting on emotion, and not logic.   So, all vitriol needs to be redirected to him.  Because if he is stupid enough to think that Howie can fix what he has wrought, then he is the source of the entire problem.

Just now, downundermike said:

I totally agree with you, but I find it hard to believe, as much as I want it, that Jeff will 100% cut ties with Howie.  

I think we all find it hard to believe, given what has transpired in the past, but if the owner allows someone to fail their way into indefinite control and a lifetime appointment, the owner needs to be held accountable.  Pitchfork time for the owner, as they are responsible for that kind of decision.

At this point, that would be an indefensible position for Lurie to take and he would have to accept the fall out of such a decision.  I don't think that is what he wants at this stage in his life and in his cycle as an owner.  He may have some irrational appreciation for Howie Roseman, but I think at the end of the day he should value having success more.

Penei Sewell might be an automatic pick for me if he's on the board at our selection. He can play LT, RT, OG, etc. The Colts haven't regretted taking an OG at #6. Washington took Scherff at #5 and were happy. Do we need him? No. We're simply not in a position to pass on blue-chip talent.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/doug-pederson-clarifies-remarks-about-his-say-personnel-howie-roseman

Wow!!  Apropos to our current discussion here.

Pederson all but saying he wants a voice in personnel, and then having to walk it back, but not doing the best job of it.

Pretty clear that Doug does not believe he has been part of the alleged "collaboration" on personnel.  If accurate, an even more damning indictment of the current personnel team.

1 minute ago, RLC said:

Penei Sewell might be an automatic pick for me if he's on the board at our selection. He can play LT, RT, OG, etc. The Colts haven't regretted taking an OG at #6. Washington took Scherff at #5 and were happy. Do we need him? No. We're simply not in a position to pass on blue-chip talent.

I agree with you.  If he is there, we get him.  We won our SB in 2017 largely due to our OL.  Plus, we need a really strong OL to deal with Washington's DL over the next few years.

I have to think no way Sewell makes it past 3

If one stud could be added to this group, makes Singleton and Edwards so much better.

 

1 minute ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

I have to think no way Sewell makes it past 3

It really depends who is picking. The Dolphins will love Parsons. I could see the Bengals preferring Slater or a CB in RD1. The Falcons depends on their new GM

4 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

I have to think no way Sewell makes it past 3

Definitely top 10 and probably top 5, but a lot can happen between now and the draft. Somebody's stock will rise and somebody's will fall as a result of a player's stock rising.  It will be interesting to see how the pandemic affects potential late risers (less workouts, in person visits).

9 minutes ago, downundermike said:

If one stud could be added to this group, makes Singleton and Edwards so much better.

 

I don't think it's crazy that the Jets would take Sewell. They will be in a similar position to us, in that a new coaching staff might think they can work with Darnold. They have Becton, why not solidify your bookends with Sewell? 

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I dont get it... I really dont

This board shouted from the roof top how they hate Pac12 players. how they cant block. theyre a huge issue. etc etc and now everyone is in love with Sewell WHILE WE ALREADY HAVE 2 Left Tackles. 

I hope he's gone at 3, we're at 4 and we trade back with the Lions and pick up there 2nd and 4th so we they get Zach Wilson and we still get a WR

I live in Pac 12 country, saw Dillard play in college, was stoked about the pick, and still think he will be a stud in the NFL.

Sewell is on a whole other level.  He is a once every 10 year LT.  If he is there, you 100% take him.

19 minutes ago, RLC said:

Penei Sewell might be an automatic pick for me if he's on the board at our selection. He can play LT, RT, OG, etc. The Colts haven't regretted taking an OG at #6. Washington took Scherff at #5 and were happy. Do we need him? No. We're simply not in a position to pass on blue-chip talent.

Agreed. I want an elite offensive line. I like Mailata but Sewell is on an entirely different level. Perhaps Mailata could be moved to RT if we do end up with Sewell. I don't think it's going to happen but you never know.

15 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

I have to think no way Sewell makes it past 3

If the Bungles let him go they're idiots

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

Hopefully Jeff Lurie reads some of this stuff.  The fans, the media, we all want him gone.

it's a bit higher now

9 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

Definitely top 10 and probably top 5, but a lot can happen between now and the draft. Somebody's stock will rise and somebody's will fall as a result of a player's stock rising.  It will be interesting to see how the pandemic affects potential late risers (less workouts, in person visits).

I don't see him being very fluid in regards to draft position. He's by far the best T prospect in the class, and LT is a position valued at the top. This isn't like last year when you have a collective of 4 great LT prospects. 

8 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

I don't think it's crazy that the Jets would take Sewell. They will be in a similar position to us, in that a new coaching staff might think they can work with Darnold. They have Becton, why not solidify your bookends with Sewell? 

I made the same argument a week ago especially if they aren’t thrilled or in love with the QBs at two. They could take WR as well but i really don’t see them going that route with Sewell on the board 

5 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

We'd have to trade Dillard for a 2

There will be teams at the bottom half of round 1 that may think Dillard is a better option than any rookie. Just turned 25, been in the league two years and has game experience.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I made the same argument a week ago especially if they aren’t thrilled or in love with the QBs at two. They could take WR as well but i really don’t see them going that route with Sewell on the board 

Yep.  A generational LT to protect Darnold, or the QB you draft in the later rounds or early the following year.

9 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

We'd have to trade Dillard for a 2

Mailaita for a 5

Then pick Sewell if he's there. 

With all the holes this team has you cant roll into training camp with 3 Left tackles. 

Unless you're certain that Sewell can play RT which might make Lane expendable.

Judging from production you might have Mailata and Dillard swapped in value.

7 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

I don't think it's crazy that the Jets would take Sewell. They will be in a similar position to us, in that a new coaching staff might think they can work with Darnold. They have Becton, why not solidify your bookends with Sewell? 

I think they could but that's also because I don't know if I would want Fields. 

10 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Mailaita for a 5

 

You'd be insane to unload Mailata for just a 5, and i'm not even as big of a Mailata guy as most in here.