11 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

You mean by winning that game, that way?   Might have been the best thing for this team in the long run.   Because the reality of this season has set in for a lot of folks, and winning that game wouldn't have been very helpful for this team moving forward.   This team needs be changes, and maybe that game helped to make that obvious to those that need to make those changes.

I'm praying that Lurie isn't oblivious to all these problems that fans can easily see. Always liked that he didn't interfere but he needs to hit the reset button

Just watched Jaylen Waddle and DeVonta Smith highlights.  Bama has SO many weapons.  Mac Jones made some incredible throws this year.  Smith is definitely an impressive player I don't want to take that away from him.  He's smooth, makes great catches and most of the times he is faster than the opponent. 

However, Jaylen Waddle is built more solid and has an extra gear that Smith doesn't have.  He's a ridiculous athlete.  I would take Waddle over Smith.  

This time next year we will be talking about John Metchie.

What's a realistic draft slot for Najee Harris?  

32 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

I wouldn't rule out Atlanta taking a QB.  Matt Ryan is a fossil.  Also, a new coach might want his own QB.

Yeah i agree. I think it’s likely QB or corner. I think they’d trade Ryan and go QB. They talked about it during the year trading Ryan and now also dealing julio. Their secondary is a mess at corner. I think corner or QB is the smart money. I kind of think Sewell makes sense for the dolphins tbh. I could also see the Jets going Sewell if they really aren’t in love with fields, lance or Wilson and going with darnold for another year. 

22 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

No, I’m talking Cincinnati trading back and someone else moving up to get him 

Possible. I tend to think there’s a stronger chance someone trades up to get a QB tbh. I think jones, fields, lance and Wilson go in the top 12 and at least 3 in the top 10

32 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

I think the pick would be Surtain.  I can't see Howie investing first round money in two WRs and then possibly give them both big money on second contracts.  I doubt we go WR in Round 1 for that reason, plus our WRs will be better if the OL is better.

I go CB in that scenario. In the mocks right now you can get great WRs like Roberson, Tamarion Terry, Tylan Wallace in mid and late rounds.  There is no need to go with a round 1 WR if things pan out like that. 

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Just watched Jaylen Waddle and DeVonta Smith highlights.  Bama has SO many weapons.  Mac Jones made some incredible throws this year.  Smith is definitely an impressive player I don't want to take that away from him.  He's smooth, makes great catches and most of the times he is faster than the opponent. 

However, Jaylen Waddle is built more solid and has an extra gear that Smith doesn't have.  He's a ridiculous athlete.  I would take Waddle over Smith.  

This time next year we will be talking about John Metchie.

What's a realistic draft slot for Najee Harris?  

 Bro we need to spend our whole draft on defense basically.  We knew that before this season started and nothings changed for the better since then 

6 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

 Bro we need to spend our whole draft on defense basically.  We knew that before this season started and nothings changed for the better since then 

Greg Ward is our leading WR...

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I go CB in that scenario. In the mocks right now you can get great WRs like Roberson, Tamarion Terry, Tylan Wallace in mid and late rounds.  There is no need to go with a round 1 WR if things pan out like that. 

We're not picking a WR in the 1st round this year.  We have a better chance of trading up for Trevor Lawrence. 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

We're not picking a WR in the 1st round this year.  We have a better chance of trading up for Trevor Lawrence. 

I dont think we should. 

20 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

Im not even trying to read the future.  Any season it sucks to be el eliminated by dallas.   Even when you know how bad the team is.  
 

Winning that game would have been helpful because for me beating dallas always feels right and good and would have comforter me a little bit lol. 
 

History doesnt look at things like draft position and neither do us die hard fans   High draft simply wont cut it right now unless you tell me we are gunna draft the next bdawk(61st pick 2nd rnd)

We didnt make the playoffs when 6 wins would have been enough. That’s all we will remember.  Unless we draft the next reggie white or dawkins.  And that aint happening

Where in my post did I mention anything about draft position?   But you are a true diehard fan... you'll figure out what I meant eventually.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

I dont think we should. 

They won't.  They have already invested too much draft capital in WR's over the past 2 years, they're not picking a WR in the 1st.  They are still very high on Reagor (as they should be) and I'm pretty sure they are very high on Watkins atm...and still think they can make a player out of either Fulgham or Hightower. 

21 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'm praying that Lurie isn't oblivious to all these problems that fans can easily see. Always liked that he didn't interfere but he needs to hit the reset button

We'll see.   

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Greg Ward is our leading WR...

Reagor is. He is gunna have to step up into the role.  At least for next year we need him to.  We already invested too much into the position in recent drafts while if ignoring the defense all together.  
 

maybe sign a fa wr as a stop gap but im tired of ignoring the back 7 of the defense every draft 

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Where in my post did I mention anything about draft position?   But you are a true diehard fan... you'll figure out what I meant eventually.

You took my post wrong or i mislead you.  I  was only speaking for me.  But i know eagle fans were disgusted with last sunday and that game will sting until we see and beat dallas the next time. 

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

They won't.  They have already invested too much draft capital in WR's over the past 2 years, they're not picking a WR in the 1st.  They are still very high on Reagor (as they should be) and I'm pretty sure they are very high on Watkins atm...and still think they can make a player out of either Fulgham or Hightower. 

Id still take 2-3 WRs in this class just because its so good. But I dont care to take one in round 1. Because the class is so good. 

Just now, SNOORDA said:

You took my post wrong 

I must have.  Because my comment wasn't about losing for the sake of draft position, it was related to the team fooling themselves into thinking that winnnig this crap-tastic division was some kind of accomplishment and that they could just move forward as Doug said merely by going back to fundamentals.   No, fundamentals aren't going to fix the numerous problems with this team.  And frankly, I don't see the people in the organization that can fix them.   So, by losing that game, in that manner, with the division still on the line (actually in their own hands by that point) might be enough to cause real change, not just rearranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic like they did last offseason, while Howie and Doug pulled the team in different directions.

6 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

He got banned because of what he posted yesterday? Wow. The way he types isn't banworthy. He trolls but so does majority of the people in CVON

Shame

 

6 hours ago, downundermike said:

 

I am pretty sure he got banned because he posted a screen shot of his warning points, including the moderators comments about his suspension.

He won't be missed

15 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

That's so weak.  For starters, two completely different types of WR's. 

Everyone knew Jefferson was an NFL ready WR.  The only real question with Jefferson was whether or not he would be successful outside vs primarily in the slot.  The guy has been exceptional this year and no one is debating that. 

Reagor, on the other hand, was always a "higher ceiling/lower floor" prospect, meaning he would likely take a little longer to transition to the NFL.

That said, Reagor has been maligned by injuries, sub par QB play and has missed 5 games.   The comparisons are way too early at this point, imo.  I will be surprised if they are still this far apart by the end of the 2021 season.

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Id still take 2-3 WRs in this class just because its so good. But I dont care to take one in round 1. Because the class is so good. 

Yep.  If they find value at WR past the 2nd round, I'm all in. 

Just now, Ace Nova said:

Yep.  If they find value at WR past the 2nd round, I'm all in. 

there will be 1st round talent in round 3 at WR

14 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I must have.  Because my comment wasn't about losing for the sake of draft position, it was related to the team fooling themselves into thinking that winnnig this crap-tastic division was some kind of accomplishment and that they could just move forward as Doug said merely by going back to fundamentals.   No, fundamentals aren't going to fix the numerous problems with this team.  And frankly, I don't see the people in the organization that can fix them.   So, by losing that game, in that manner, with the division still on the line (actually in their own hands by that point) might be enough to cause real change, not just rearranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic like they did last offseason, while Howie and Doug pulled the team in different directions.

I get that.  After such an underachieving season the players need to be humiliated a little.   I do get that

however, dont get it twisted.  These players dont get it. Humility isnt in play

hopefully, however, lurie sees this and takes appropriate action(s) 

3 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

I get that.  After such an underachieving season the players need to be humiliated a little.   I do get that

however, dont get it twisted.  These players dont get it. Humility isnt in play

hopefully, however, lurie sees this and takes appropriate action(s) 

Who else could I have possibly been talking about?  

38 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

 Bro we need to spend our whole draft on defense basically.  We knew that before this season started and nothings changed for the better since then 

Pretty much.    Great draft to trade out of the top 10 and acquire an additional 2nd rounder, imo.  If so, DB 1st round, get 1 DE and 1 DT in the 2nd..maybe another DB in the 3rd or WR if they find value. 

This draft talk and positions doesn’t make sense to me. This is a team devoid of talent and specifically young talent. You are in the top 10, take a stud, as long as it’s not something dumb like TE, RB, LS, K etc. You aren’t realistically contending next year with the cap situation. It’s at best a two year project. 

Why force a pick on D. Why force taking a project DE or a CB if they aren’t a generational talent. Just take a stud or trade back.