18 minutes ago, Penn7980 said:

Adding an OC will help to streamline the offensive ideas and game plan.  There are too many different advisors this season that may be the root cause of the struggle on offense.  Doug wants to be nice guy and let everyone chip in ideas.  A case of too many cooks in the kitchen.   

I think that’s another issue with Lurie and/or Howie dictating the coaching staff to Doug. 

They made him fire his OC, and probably wouldn’t allow him to hire from within and elevate Press Taylor. So Doug had to go outside his comfort zone to bring in someone he wasn’t as familiar with and didn’t have a trusting relationship with. Doug couldn’t give have the guy he wanted at OC and didn’t trust the outside guy enough to make him OC. 

It made for an offense that didn’t fit together particularly well. 

17 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Dillard hasn’t even played yet.  How about you watch the guy play and evaluate him as a starter first?

Neither have Marcus Smith or JJAW, but I’m ready to evaluate them.  

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Unpopular opinion but with the Eagles limited resources and needs across the board, bringing Jalen Mills back at safety needs to be a priority.  I think a 3-year deal gets it done.  

The priority, given the current roster and salary cap, is to get K’Von Wallace on the field at strong safety.  Draft a free safety to take McLeod’s role.
 

Mills is garbage.  He was a detriment at CB and lost games there with his piss poor play.  He does nothing at safety.  How many impact plays does Mills make?  Zero

For the Eagles to get back on the right track they need to cut the dead wood, and Mills is #1 on the dead wood list — okay, #4 behind Alshon Jeffery, Nate Gerry and Jason Peters.  Mills, Peters, Clement, Jeffery, Gerry need to be gone for performance reasons.  Malik, Desean gone for salary reasons.  Greg Ward and Boston Scott need to be upgraded; they’re bottom of the roster guys on most NFL teams

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Sounds like 2021 will mostly be geared towards a top 3 pick in 2022.

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

The priority, given the current roster and salary cap, is to get K’Von Wallace on the field at strong safety.  Draft a free safety to take McLeod’s role.
 

Mills is garbage.  He was a detriment at CB and lost games there with his piss poor play.  He does nothing at safety.  How many impact plays does Mills make?  Zero

For the Eagles to get back on the right track they need to cut the dead wood, and Mills is #1 on the dead wood list — okay, #4 behind Alshon Jeffery, Nate Gerry and Jason Peters.  Mills, Peters, Clement, Jeffery, Gerry need to be gone for performance reasons.  Malik, Desean gone for salary reasons.  Greg Ward and Boston Scott need to be upgraded; they’re bottom of the roster guys on most NFL teams

The fact that Epps has been dominating the snap count over Wallace makes me think everyone might want to temper those Wallace expectations.

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The fact that Epps has been dominating the snap count over Wallace makes me think everyone might want to temper those Wallace expectations.

The fact that this team constantly promotes veterans, it says little about Wallace

6 minutes ago, RLC said:

The fact that this team constantly promotes veterans, it says little about Wallace

That is fair.

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

 

 

Najee Harris is likely the best option, but would take the 2nd round pick.  Travis Etienne will likely be drafted higher, but is too similar to Sanders.  it wouldn't be much of a complement.

The guy I really like (and liked him last year) is Kylin Hill.  Not the biggest guy, but has a powerful build.  But, has a locker room incident looming over him that lead to a suspension from the team and then he chose not to return and opted for the draft.   Red flag that needs to be investigated.

And then there's the pair of backs from OSU.  Sermon and Teague.  

 

If Harris is there in the second round with our pick I would take him in a heartbeat. Alabama running backs always seem to have very good success in the NFL. It's a no-brainer.

However since miles Sanders was just pick two years ago I'm not sure they would pull the trigger. It's a shame but I think Harris would be 8 exceptional pick for this team especially if we get a new offensive coordinator or head coach that actually will run the ball. I guess that decision which we should find out within the next week will determine if we have a shot at even having Harris on our boards.

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

 

 

Najee Harris is likely the best option, but would take the 2nd round pick.  Travis Etienne will likely be drafted higher, but is too similar to Sanders.  it wouldn't be much of a complement.

The guy I really like (and liked him last year) is Kylin Hill.  Not the biggest guy, but has a powerful build.  But, has a locker room incident looming over him that lead to a suspension from the team and then he chose not to return and opted for the draft.   Red flag that needs to be investigated.

And then there's the pair of backs from OSU.  Sermon and Teague.  

 

Demetric Felton from UCLA is nice. 

I would like a "thumper" behind Miles Sanders that can be a punisher to complement him.
At the same time, using a top 100 pick on another RB, given all the holes on this team, is very misguided. We need foundational pieces.  

32 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The priority, given the current roster and salary cap, is to get K’Von Wallace on the field at strong safety.  Draft a free safety to take McLeod’s role.
 

Mills is garbage.  He was a detriment at CB and lost games there with his piss poor play.  He does nothing at safety.  How many impact plays does Mills make?  Zero

For the Eagles to get back on the right track they need to cut the dead wood, and Mills is #1 on the dead wood list — okay, #4 behind Alshon Jeffery, Nate Gerry and Jason Peters.  Mills, Peters, Clement, Jeffery, Gerry need to be gone for performance reasons.  Malik, Desean gone for salary reasons.  Greg Ward and Boston Scott need to be upgraded; they’re bottom of the roster guys on most NFL teams

I agree. It's pretty clear that Robey-Coleman and Mills don't give this secondary very much. Also, I'm not high on Maddox anymore. The Eagles need to go young in this secondary (draft pick and Wallace) and let Slay be the vet voice of the group.  It's not a talented group now, so there isn't much to lose by trying to infuse young talent.  

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Both of them dominated all year.  Agree, UNC isn't a football factory by any means but they have generated some nice prospects over the years.  Where do you think we got Na Brown!!!

As far as running backs they gave us Natrone Means and Willie Parker who were both pretty successful NFL backs.  I loved Natrone Means.  

Sure.   And each player needs to be evaluated based on his talent, not his school.   But, you are going back a ways to find decent players from UNC.  

Julius Peppers and Ryan Sims were top 5 picks, I think... but nearly 20 years ago.     Means was 25 years ago.  Parker was over 15.   

 

But, they each need to be evaluated on their own merit.  Mississippi Valley St wasn't exactly a hot-bed for NFL talent, but produced Jerry Rice.

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

Dillard hasn’t even played yet.  How about you watch the guy play and evaluate him as a starter first?

I'm happy to see some fans coming to Howie's defense; and I mean it. I think perhaps you are right. I'm playing my hunch; and in doing so using some sophistry as it has become so ubiquitous. The fact is, Howie is not THAT bad a draft manager. I think the draft focus has been too narrow, and overthought. But that focus has been very intense, and that's a good thing. Of course whenever you lose to Mel Kiper, it's not going to look good.

The bottom line is the team has to look more at Mel Kiper, and every other 'draft guru'; and just stop risking our best picks; going on these rogue reaches. Missing in the draft seems to make  Howie even more anxious to throw hail Marys with picks like Sidney Jones-JJAW. If they can somehow squelch the reaching, maybe save it for late rounds, the team will be okay.

People have to realize; if the player goes to another team and balls, that means he we wasn't a bad draft pick and you might want to check your aim as to where the problem is.

5 minutes ago, RLC said:

I would like a "thumper" behind Miles Sanders that can be a punisher to complement him.
At the same time, using a top 100 pick on another RB, given all the holes on this team, is very misguided. We need foundational pieces.  

Very true.  RB is like the topping on the sundae... you need the ice cream underneath, but without the toppings, its not a sundae.

47 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The priority, given the current roster and salary cap, is to get K’Von Wallace on the field at strong safety.  Draft a free safety to take McLeod’s role.
 

Mills is garbage.  He was a detriment at CB and lost games there with his piss poor play.  He does nothing at safety.  How many impact plays does Mills make?  Zero

For the Eagles to get back on the right track they need to cut the dead wood, and Mills is #1 on the dead wood list — okay, #4 behind Alshon Jeffery, Nate Gerry and Jason Peters.  Mills, Peters, Clement, Jeffery, Gerry need to be gone for performance reasons.  Malik, Desean gone for salary reasons.  Greg Ward and Boston Scott need to be upgraded; they’re bottom of the roster guys on most NFL teams

There's a lot more dead wood than Mills, much more expensive and oft-injured.  Mills at least gets on and stays on the field.  

12 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

I agree. It's pretty clear that Robey-Coleman and Mills don't give this secondary very much. Also, I'm not high on Maddox anymore. The Eagles need to go young in this secondary (draft pick and Wallace) and let Slay be the vet voice of the group.  It's not a talented group now, so there isn't much to lose by trying to infuse young talent.  

Maddox is another example of players being miscast in this defense.  Both he and Darby were horrid last season on the outside, yet Schwartz gave him the job by acclimation to start opposite Slay.  Maddox always showed his best playing inside, whether it was slot CB or spelling McLeod at safety.  Spending money on NRC to be yet another slot CB made no sense at all; those resources should have been spent on the outside.

Personnel and talent evaluation is a huge deficiency of this coaching staff, on every unit — offense, defense, and special teams.  

Well looks like both Wentz and Doug will be back next year. This makes it virtually vital that everything be done to draft Chase. Need to give Wentz and this offense a Bona fide stud #1 WR, coupled with a hopefully healthy O-line, Wentz and Doug will either sink or swim. If they sink, get rid of them both after next season and don't look back, same with Howie.

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

 

 

Najee Harris is likely the best option, but would take the 2nd round pick.  Travis Etienne will likely be drafted higher, but is too similar to Sanders.  it wouldn't be much of a complement.

The guy I really like (and liked him last year) is Kylin Hill.  Not the biggest guy, but has a powerful build.  But, has a locker room incident looming over him that lead to a suspension from the team and then he chose not to return and opted for the draft.   Red flag that needs to be investigated.

And then there's the pair of backs from OSU.  Sermon and Teague.  

 

I like Etienne alot.  I just feel if you have 2 good RBs that can be the identity of your team it will make things easier for either Wentz or Hurts and the defense.

I know RBs arent valued as much anymore but they're still extremely important.

59 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The fact that Epps has been dominating the snap count over Wallace makes me think everyone might want to temper those Wallace expectations.

This coaching staff has proven they dont play the best guys.  

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Discussion about drafting a RB early when we have tons of holes in more important areas.  Where have I read that before?  Some things never change.  

That discussion can start if the Eagles get a coach who will run the ball.  Sanders could make a Pro Bowl if he were featured in this offense.  

53 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The priority, given the current roster and salary cap, is to get K’Von Wallace on the field at strong safety.  Draft a free safety to take McLeod’s role.
 

Mills is garbage.  He was a detriment at CB and lost games there with his piss poor play.  He does nothing at safety.  How many impact plays does Mills make?  Zero

For the Eagles to get back on the right track they need to cut the dead wood, and Mills is #1 on the dead wood list — okay, #4 behind Alshon Jeffery, Nate Gerry and Jason Peters.  Mills, Peters, Clement, Jeffery, Gerry need to be gone for performance reasons.  Malik, Desean gone for salary reasons.  Greg Ward and Boston Scott need to be upgraded; they’re bottom of the roster guys on most NFL teams

How much cohesion has the back 4 had?  Defensive backfields are like offensive lines.  They need to play together to play their best.  Do you think Mills had any confidence in whoever was lining up at CB2 or in the slot?  Your safeties need to trust the corners are doing their jobs so they can play the middle of the field or up near the line.  Mills also had to bounce around different positions all year.  He hardly played piss poor when at safety.  

Strong Safety/Free Safety is a thing of the past.  I'd rather rely on Mills and Wallace with Epps backing them up than Wallace and 31 year old McCleod coming off a torn ACL.

I'm not saying Mills is the savior at safety but give him a solid CB2, LeBlanc in the slot along with Slay and whoever the other safety is and I guarantee you he plays better and is the least of our worries.  You mentioned impact plays, he has 100 tackles, 1.5 sacks and 1 int.  Nothing to brag about at all but who else on the Eagles has?  You want Rodney back there?  He has just as many INT's and one less forced fumble.  

Wallace has shown nothing this year to give me any confidence he can produce moving forward.  In no way should he be guaranteed a spot.  I want MIlls/Epps/Wallace a mid-round rookie and McCleod on PUP.  Let the UDFA from this year battle it out again.

5 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I like Etienne alot.  I just feel if you have 2 good RBs that can be the identity of your team it will make things easier for either Wentz or Hurts and the defense.

I know RBs arent valued as much anymore but they're still extremely important.

I don't disagree at all.  I just don't see a 1st or 2nd round pick as being a sound investment.  But, I'll also say that Etienne is very similar to Sanders.  It would be good to have more of a complement to his style.    Though Etienne is absolutely a talented back.

37 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

If Harris is there in the second round with our pick I would take him in a heartbeat. Alabama running backs always seem to have very good success in the NFL. It's a no-brainer.

However since miles Sanders was just pick two years ago I'm not sure they would pull the trigger. It's a shame but I think Harris would be 8 exceptional pick for this team especially if we get a new offensive coordinator or head coach that actually will run the ball. I guess that decision which we should find out within the next week will determine if we have a shot at even having Harris on our boards.

See Trent Richardson and Bo Scarborough...or dare i say Siran Stacy!

However, I agree, I would pounce on Harris, especially if whoever is running the Eagles can muster up another 2nd round pick.

9 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Maddox is another example of players being miscast in this defense.  Both he and Darby were horrid last season on the outside, yet Schwartz gave him the job by acclimation to start opposite Slay.  Maddox always showed his best playing inside, whether it was slot CB or spelling McLeod at safety.  Spending money on NRC to be yet another slot CB made no sense at all; those resources should have been spent on the outside.

Personnel and talent evaluation is a huge deficiency of this coaching staff, on every unit — offense, defense, and special teams.  

What seemed to me like an issue was they were focused on having guys that can play CB, slot CB and Safety.  Instead of just using certain guys where they are strong they want to be able to move them around like chess pieces.  It would be nice if these players can do that but they cant.