1 minute ago, Arsenal79 said:

Also Mecole Hardman went the pick before JJAW, and apparently we liked him alot, then settled when he went right in front of us.

Wouldn't have taken much to trade in front of KC to get him, but I guess we need those picks to spend on guys like Gerard Avery and Golden Tate.

Didn’t KC trade in front of us?

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yeah, he was a divisive prospect because of his injuries, lack of counting stats and his agility drills at the combine. I comped him to Josh Gordon. Looks good today. But I’m not going to cry about him because his neck obviously scared teams. 

I was more irritated that they had Juan thornhill still on the board so you could replace Rodney McLeod at the end of the year. Now you’re in a bad contract with mcleod because you decide to take Jjaw who was another slow wide receiver that we didn’t need. Our future at safety looks a hell of a lot better today with thornhill and Wallace as the future. 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

If Metcalf retired with a neck injury tonight, I'd still trade JJAW for him on Monday.

I'd also trade JJAW for Parris Campbell with a severe leg injury right now.

Just now, Shocker54 said:

He be slo wit no $wag and day theys thout he wuz a tecknickan. But u need spee and $wag on dis level. Dam smh

Your posts' hilarity are directly proportional to my bourbon consumption. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Who cares if he’s injured or healthy. Both of them are likely to be bust. So either way you would’ve gotten a guy was a bust cause he can’t stay healthy or you would have a guy with a bust cause he’s just not very good  

Would you feel better about Howie if he took a good player who happened to get hurt and bust, or a bad player who just sucks?

Just now, ManuManu said:

Didn’t KC trade in front of us?

Yup. 

2 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Won't lie, I was hoping for Isabella. Thought he'd have an Edelman-esque career trajectory. Became a fan of his when he singlehandedly torched my Georgia Bulldogs for over 200 yards receiving. 

I think he caught a long one today and ended up w/67 yards.  Again, not a number JJAW will ever likely reach in a game.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Would you feel better about Howie if he took a good player who happened to get hurt and bust, or a bad player who just sucks?

When did Campbell become good player? He had one good game out of 18. Legitimately he played seven games last year and was bad in those seven games. Then missed the other 9. And he started three of them. And he’s injury prone  

I would say who gives a crap they both are not going to help the Eagles. If one is injury prone and never available and the other one does suck what good are either one of them? 

2 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

I'd also trade JJAW for Parris Campbell with a severe leg injury right now.

we couldn’t get a 72 Pinto and a bag of weed for him

10 minutes ago, Dice said:

Seriously wtf is wrong with JJAW? How is he still so bad?

Zero athleticism 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Who cares if he’s injured or healthy. Both of them are likely to be bust. So either way you would’ve gotten a guy was a bust cause he can’t stay healthy or you would have a guy with a bust cause he’s just not very good  

Agree. My argument isn't placed in drafting the wrong guys. It's the people who are doing the drafting my concern is with. 

Cthulhu with rams 34- Eagles 20 is this week's winner. 

Ill do my best to get scores for next week but Teddy is looking to friendly🤔

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Didn’t KC trade in front of us?

That likely means we could have made the trade also, unless Howie got caught with his pants down telegraphing his intentions or not even being in touch w/the Rams to counter offer when the trade went down.  Not a good look for Trader Howie.

Apr 26, 2019: Rams traded 2019 2nd round pick (56th overall, Mecole Hardman) to Chiefs for 2019 2nd round pick (61st overall, Taylor Rapp) and 2019 5th round pick (167th overall subsequently traded, Clayton Thorson)

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

When did Campbell become good player? He had one good game out of 18. Legitimately he played seven games last year and was bad in those seven games. Then missed the other 9. And he started three of them. And he’s injury prone  

I would say who gives a crap they both are going to help the Eagles. If one is injury prone and never available and the other one does suck what good are either one of them? 

Take out good for promising if you want.

If you have no interest in context or nuance and just want to boil it down to all busts are equal then so be it. I think it all matters. 

He is completely worthless. Nothing good comes when a pass is thrown towards him. A couple of tds in practice against the likes of Douglas and Jones and the media thought he will be ready for a breakout season. 

2 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

That likely means we could have made the trade also, unless Howie got caught with his pants down telegraphing his intentions or not even being in touch w/the Rams to counter offer when the trade went down.  Not a good look for Trader Howie.

Apr 26, 2019: Rams traded 2019 2nd round pick (56th overall, Mecole Hardman) to Chiefs for 2019 2nd round pick (61st overall, Taylor Rapp) and 2019 5th round pick (167th overall subsequently traded, Clayton Thorson)

I’m not gonna get on Howie for not trading up a spot to ensure we got Mecole Hardman. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

Take out good for promising if you want.

If you have no interest in context or nuance and just want to boil it down to all busts are equal then so be it. I think it all matters. 

I couldn’t care less if it’s a bust cause he’s injured or bust cause he sucks. Still a bust with a high pick. The semantics on it makes no difference. If it makes you feel better because he was injury prone then by all means. However it’s not gonna change the fact that you’re going to get nothing out of that pick. 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I couldn’t care less if it’s a bust cause he’s injured or bust cause he sucks. Still a bust with a high pick. The semantics on it makes no difference. If it makes you feel better because he was injury prone then by all means. However it’s not gonna change the fact that you’re going to get nothing out of that pick. 

Of course it makes a difference. I guarantee you a GM thinks how a guy became a bust matters. What a silly assertion. JJAW busting changes how you look at your scouting department and your philosophy on picking players. Campbell busting changes nothing. 

27 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Actually I was pretty impressed with how the Eagles ran the ball today; the OL played very well on balance.  I saw some signs of encouragement.

The Rams were definitely playing two deep safeties all day.  Wentz did have at least two looks off of play action, but didn’t throw.  One I remember he threw a 12-yard completion to Ertz on the sideline — he definitely looked deep before throwing to Ertz 

When you consider the pre existing injuries, Lane not being 100%, Seumalo not playing half the game, no sacks allowed, and I believe Herbig missed a stretch, the O Line played phenomenal. 
 

 

But hey, let’s fire Stoutland amirite?
 

12 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Of course it makes a difference. I guarantee you a GM thinks how a guy became a bust matters. What a silly assertion. JJAW busting changes how you look at your scouting department and you philosophy on picking players. Campbell busting changes nothing. 

Campbell has played one good game. He has shown what promise based off one game. And the other 8 he’s left injured or not been productive. One game out of Possible 18 makes him promising. Lol.

So if Jjaw does something in one game he’s considered promising.

And bad GM’s make excuses for why their players are bust. I don’t care if it’s a bust because he’s injured or a bust cause he’s not very good. Either way you made a bad pick. you get an award because he was injury prone and becomes a bust? No. you still have egg on your face. We already knew our scouting sucked. Excuses of why you guys a bust are like aholes everyone has one and they all stink

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Of course it makes a difference. I guarantee you a GM thinks how a guy became a bust matters. What a silly assertion. JJAW busting changes how you look at your scouting department and your philosophy on picking players. Campbell busting changes nothing. 

JJAW was so obviously a horrible pick at the time, and to make that selection over Metcalf is an absolute crime

He is solely responsible for this speed draft

I have an emerging concern that the Howie/Doug combo just do not know how to run an offense.  I will NEVER take anything from anyone in 2017.  They earned that SB.  But I'm starting to worry that it was an anomaly (NOT a fluke).

They tinkered with 12 personnel in 2017.  It was effective for them with their 3 solid TEs.  They also had 3 viable WRs and still used 11 personnel as a base offense the majority of the time, Agholor in his career year, Jeffery pre-wheels falling off, and Torey Smith bringing up the rear but still commanding some attention deep.  It worked.  

2018: They drafted Goedert over DJ Chark, who was a prototypical Z wr, when they needed one in the worst way...and already had a pro-bowl TE.  As good as Goedert may be, that was the moment when they took a wrong turn at the fork in the road.  Now we are doubling down, literally, on 12 personnel in a flag football league that doesn't allow DB's to cover WRs downfield.  To complement our heavy base offense with 2 TEs, we roll with a then 28 year old (and slowing) Jeffery, Agholor (who they knew belonged in the slot), and a scrap-heap addition in Mike Wallace to give the offense some semblance of speed and deep presence.  Do you really think a HC and GM who have any understanding of NFL offense should have laid out these blueprints?

2019:  The year the 12 personnel was supposed to take the league by storm.  The WRs fell apart last year (in 2018).  We needed to complement the 12 personnel.  The solution?  Extend a still slowing 29 year old Jeffery and draft a cinderblock-footed possession WR in round 2 as his understudy.  Trade for 33 year old Desean Jackson off the same scrap heap you got your Z WR last year.  End up with an offense that features 2 TEs and 2 slow WRs on the field whose highlights look like watching an NYC traffic cam.   Do you really think a HC and GM who have any understanding of NFL offense should have laid out these blueprints?

2020: Pivot 180 on your offensive philosophy to the tune of airing it out every other play in week 1 with a focus on speed (yay).  To meet this end, you spend the majority of your evaporating cap space on a $39m DT when you already have >$30m of 2020 cap wrapped up in 2 players at the same position.  Do not add any veteran WRs.  Telegraph to the entire NFL that you will desperately need to draft the best available fast WR in round 1.  Then go nuts adding 3 guys who run fast 40's (Goodwin, Hightower, Watkins) with the collective investment of a late 4th round pick.  And then based on that minimal, inexperienced investment of speed into your offense, just go nuts throwing nothing but deep bombs in week 1.

 

They haven't shown any ability to harvest mismatches, except those that backfire, with the 12 personnel.  The offensive approach and emphasis are wildly variable.  They cycle through offensive coaches like they are trading cards.  This entire sequence leads me to fear that they cannot possibly have any idea what the F they are doing.  

 

 

JJAW smh fing scrub 

Barnett is a bust too

1 minute ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Barnett is a bust too

Career penalties 17

career sacks 14