OC: Kafka

DC: Ryans

Replace every skill position coach with their guys. 

So who are some offensive coordinators we want to look at? 

 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

At this point I’m expecting their grand answer is promote Press to OC and bring in a new QB coach. 

It’s a possibility. However I think that’s a recipe for disaster. I think they have way too much belief in press Taylor. I understand he was homegrown and he did some good things when he was younger in a different position but that doesn’t mean when you get promoted that you’re always going to be ready for it or have success in that role. I just don’t think he’s a very good quarterback coach and I’m not really sure he’s very good at being a coordinator. If he’s been the passing game coordinator thats not exactly a feather in his cap. 

1 minute ago, MillerTime said:

OC: Kafka

DC: Ryans

Replace every skill position coach with their guys. 

Kafka isn’t leaving to be an OC here if he doesn’t get to call plays. Also the chiefs blocked him last year. I’m guessing with Eric beinemy likely getting a HC he moves into that role. Wouldn’t be shocked if 2021 goes poorly and doug is gone then that he’s one of the strongest candidates for HC 

It's ok guys. We all know that the Eagles were the only team in the league that had to deal with COVID-19...

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not sure you are getting a capable OC unless doug decides to give up play calling. If i were a up and coming coach gaining clout I’m not going somewhere where i am not going to get the opportunity to call plays. 

Graham Harrell wouldn’t even take the job last year, as a 34 year-old with only one year of OC experience in college.

If Doug and Howie are both back I’m genuinely frightened to think of who they’ll hire as DC to work for Doug.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s a possibility. However I think that’s a recipe for disaster. I think they have way too much belief in press Taylor. I understand he was homegrown and he did some good things when he was younger in a different position but that doesn’t mean when you get promoted that you’re always going to be ready for it or have success in that role. I just don’t think he’s a very good quarterback coach and I’m not really sure he’s very good at being a coordinator. If he’s been the passing game coordinator thats not exactly a feather in his cap. 

Of course it’s a disaster, every fan of the team can see it’s a disaster, that’s why they will do it.

Just now, Alphagrand said:

Graham Harrell wouldn’t even take the job last year, as a 34 year-old with only one year of OC experience in college.

If Doug and Howie are both back I’m genuinely frightened to think of who they’ll hire as DC to work for Doug.

It’s just going to be Matt Burke. Book it. 

4 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

That's what many (most) here don't seem to grasp.

It’s actually more like what the eagles like to do when they want someone to leave but they also really like them and admire them. Feels more like they call it a mutual parting of the ways but I’m guessing if the eagles really wanted Schwartz back they’d could get him to return. 

6 minutes ago, RLC said:

If Press Taylor is still on the staff, what are we doing?

 

Gold Standard baby 

1 minute ago, wtfcares said:

Yeah let’s blame Schwartz for not being able to be successful with 5th round picks. Meanwhile for poor Doug who can’t develop a WR to save his life, none of it is his fault, they’re all busts, let’s just keep drafting them higher and higher. 

I'm sorry we cant give Schwartz 1st round picks at every position on defense.  They have used 1st, 2nd, 3rd 4th round picks on defense.  They've brought in guys like Bradham, Jernigan, Malik Jackson, Hargrave, Slay.  He continues to stick by guys like Gerry when Singleton is obviously a better option.  My issue with Schwartz hasnt been the front 4 or even the front 7.  Its the back end.  They play too soft, too comfy and alot of times arent in good positions to make plays.

As far as WR, the Eagles have drafted one high the last 2 years but they werent the top guys in the draft class.  JJAW was just a terrible pick and a huge reach.  Reagor was the 4th WR picked when guys like Jefferson, Higgins and Aiyuk were better options.  This year they have a chance at one of the top 2-3 Wrs in the class.  Not sure if that's the route they will go but they have a better chance of hitting on a stud WR in the top 5-10 then picking in the 20s or 30s.

16 minutes ago, RLC said:

Bringing back both Doug/Howie is easily the worst scenario. Both are going to be fighting for their jobs. They're going to continue to make short-term decisions (play vets over kids, trade future picks, push back cap space).

At least if Howie hired a new coach, he could have blown up 2021 for a 2022 run. With Doug/Howie, that's not happening. 

This is depressing.

Yup, f'n terrible. Starting to dislike Jeff 

Luke Getsy is an interesting name.   Packers QB coach and passing game coordinator. 

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Graham Harrell wouldn’t even take the job last year, as a 34 year-old with only one year of OC experience in college.

If Doug and Howie are both back I’m genuinely frightened to think of who they’ll hire as DC to work for Doug.

 there’s more to that Harrell story then eagles fans know. I can tell you from an Arizona coach out here (actually interviewed for the Arizona HC job but quickly withdrew his name), Harrell believes that usc job is going to be handed to him after clay helton is fired if he stays at usc. The belief is helton is going to be fired within the next year or two. 

It would be the most Eagles move ever to make Duce Staley the D-Coordinator 

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Take away 2017 at number 2 and it drops to the 12-14 range. 

Jim has only ranked in top 10, 5 times in his 19 year career. Every one of them years the offense was in the top 3 of the league. Have to put two and two together on that one. 

I would think for DC I would have a serious look at Dan Quinn I don't think he will get a HC job.

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Boo hoo. Competitors want to play.  Guys worried about things like this are too much into the business side of things.   I've been critical of players who opt out of bowl games fearing injury, it's a bad sign to the rest of your teammates that you are above the fray and more important than they are.  Granted, it makes 100% logical sense from a business standpoint.   But, from a competitive standpoint it's highly questionable.   Now, sitting out the whole season... even with Covid looming in the backdrop... calls things into question.   His team was out playing and he wasn't.  When does he decide to put the business side ahead of the game side in the NFL?  Year before free agency?  Last 3 games of the season?  As soon as the season is lost and playoffs are out?  Whenever he feels that the playoffs are out?   Nah, give me a guy like Kelce 100 times out of 100 who is hurt, but fights through it even though the team is terrible.   And there's no way that I am going to spend a top 5 or even top 10 pick on a guy that puts himself ahead of the team like that.  Those guys usually end up hurting the team as they make business decisions in NFL games at some point too.

 

And before anyone says it... yes, he's within his rights to do that.  However, there are consequences to decisions that are made, and one of them might be to forego being a lock as a top 5 pick.   Maybe he slides 10 spots and loses some money, because he was too scared to play and risk losing more draft position.   This isn't an indictment of the person, but it does make you question the competitor... and certainly makes (at least me) one question how much you want to invest without seeing more.    This is where the pre-draft process comes in and he needs to explain why he sat out. 

So Devonta Smith is the pick then.....😄

No I hear you and they're all valid points.  LSU has a good track record of WRs in the NFL.  Alabama as well.  I'd be fine with either guy.  I just want someone that can play right away.  No more projects.

17 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

This puts tremendous pressure on Doug to turn things around in 2021.

If he has another season like this one then he's gone, no doubt about it.  

The problem is that if this team starts off slow again like it has from 2018 through 2020, then chances are it will be another complete train wreck and Lurie won't fire Doug or Howie midway through a season. So, we will have to sit through a possibly worse season than this year. The only good thing about it would be getting another high draft pick.  I don't have faith in Doug turning it around. He couldn't fix Wentz all year. He couldn't figure out something simple such as calling more run plays after he said multiple times that he needed to do it.  He doesn't call plays that sets up other plays in the offense which is the whole concept behind playcalling. And, putting Wentz at WR when Hurts comes on the field is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.  You are exposing your starting QB to possible hits in that situation and it takes another receiver off the field. Makes no sense.

2 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Not sure if that's the route they will go but they have a better chance of hitting on a stud WR in the top 5-10 then picking in the 20s or 30s.

In most years, the first WRs taken are not the ones who go on to have the greatest success in the NFL.   Howie and Co. just suck at identifying who they are.

 

They took Matthews and Huff... when better WRs were available.
Took Agholor, better WRs were available.
Took JJAW, better WRs were available.
Took Reagor, better WRs were available.

 

It's not the draft position, it's who is making the picks.

The only thing we can hope for at this point is Lurie demotes Howie or hires someone above him.

I'm taking the year off next season if they keep both at the same capacity. I need a break from this.

4 minutes ago, phil77 said:

Luke Getsy is an interesting name.   Packers QB coach and passing game coordinator. 

If he can bring Aaron Rodgers with him to Philly then I'm in.

Sorry but we best get ready for another bad year next year. And the year after. The rebuild is on hold. 

4 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

So Devonta Smith is the pick then.....😄

No I hear you and they're all valid points.  LSU has a good track record of WRs in the NFL.  Alabama as well.  I'd be fine with either guy.  I just want someone that can play right away.  No more projects.

I'm not picking a WR at where the Eagles will be drafting.  

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

I'm not picking a WR at where the Eagles will be drafting.  

No? But what about this offense? I mean I'm torn so I'm not completely on board with a WR either.