16 minutes ago, Allhaildawk said:

We had that studebaker kid too. He was ok for a while, on the chiefs

He was the one with the YouTube hype video before it was cool, right?

29 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I LOL'ed at this wikipedia entry. Who does this remind you of

McCoy was drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles in the second round of the 2005 NFL Draft as a project linebacker whom Eagles personnel felt they could develop.^[1] McCoy was expected to contribute to special teams, but did not contribute in his rookie season. Going into 2006, he was named the weakside linebacker starter by Defensive Coordinator Jim Johnson. Initially he had been praised as having great speed, sideline to sideline pursuit abilities and a high motor, as well as described as a "ball hawk".

Time is a f'ing circle

12 years away from Super Bowl #2 🦅

I was fine with letting Jenkins leave, you know the whole "better to be a year too early than too late” thing, but we missed him Sunday. 

32 minutes ago, JayEcho said:

my screenshots have this amazing ability to do a thing called stop time.  looking at them, you may think that wentz has this window to get the ball to goedert in the back of the endzone...  but you have to remember..  ramsey was moving WITH goedert in those screenshots.  his hips were open to goedert.  ramsey was the reason goedert looked open.  he was baiting carson the whole way.

a ball thrown to goedert would have been heavily contested or picked.  carson was still going through his progressions and by the time screenshot 3 happened, ramsey could've planted and drove.  screenshot 3 is where ramsey had the best view of both carson and goedert.  heck, even before that.  ramsey had eyes on carson nearly the whole time.  whether it's to the back of the endzone or somewhere else, ramsey would've been able to play goedert and the ball.

look at ramsey in every one of my screenshots...  his eyes are on carson.  no matter where carson would've thrown that ball to try and get it to goedert, ramsey would've been there.

I 100 percent disagree. Again this goes back to wentz throwing it exactly when you stopped and freezed it in screenshot 2 in three it is a much closer play. Ramsey was beat last week by Gallup and fortunate they called a OPI. He was beat by a step and a half by Gallup and Dak delivered it leading Gallup and he couldn’t make that up without selling a OPI. that was a weak OPI he sold cause he knew he was beat Cause he was trailing him. I don’t care if Ramsey has his eyes on wentz. You are trail by that much and wentz bullets it to the back of the end zone i don’t see him making that up and if he does he’s not staying in bounds.

Goedert had 2.5 steps and maybe he got that cause Ramsey got caught looking in the backfield and was beat. The pictures show it as 2.5 steps. He has to make that up and keep himself in bounds with his momentum to make the play and not potentially get PI by running into goedert trying to make a play when trailing by 2-2.5 steps. That’s a ridiculously hard play to make even for an all pro. That’s open in the nfl especially throwing to the back of the end zone With a defender trailing by 2-2.5 steps. Dak made that throw last week and Ramsey was beat with less space.  Furthermore it’s not just the 2.5 steps he has to manage to not have his momentum carry him out of bounds if he picks it  

Again if wentz releases it when you freezed it at two and throws it to the back of the end zone leading goedert he has to make up that ground And make sure his momentum doesn’t carry a puck out of bounds or potentially run into goedert. That’s a risk throw you make. If he makes a play you tip your cap to him. But I’m guessing it’s going to either be incomplete or goedert is tip toeing for a td. 

There should be no debate on that play. Goedert is wide open.

3 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

There should be no debate on that play. Goedert is wide open.

Goedert had 2-3 steps. That’s a out as open window in the nfl. If wentz delivers the ball in screenshot two to the back of the end zone leading goedert i don’t not believe Ramsey has the speed Even though he’s great To make that up. He got beat with less space Than goedert had last week by Gallup on a much tighter window. He acted for an OPI. Wentz had to deliver it then and he didn’t. Would it be a sure touchdown? Idk but that was better risk to take then the JJAW throw 

Alright, while we are in panic mode...everyone, everyone, has a price.  If you had a yard sale, you'd put a price on everything.  If the Eagles had a firesale at the deadline, what would you take for every player on the roster?  Not what you'd ask for...what you'd take.  And their contract situation counts.  Rookies and first year Eagles don't count.  As always, my valuation of these players will be radically different from popular opinion.  0 means I'd give them and their contract away for nothing...might mean they suck, more likely means their contract is a problem.  Some players gain a bit of value just because they've been coached up in our system, have a role, and we have no one else.

QB: Wentz: 1,1,2, 2.  Sudfeld: 7

RB: Sanders: 2,4. Scott: 4. Clement: 0.

WR: JJAW 0, Ward 0, Jeffery 0, Desean 0 (clean sweep)

TE: Ertz 3, Goedert 1

OT: Peters 0.  Lane 1,3.  Mailata 6

OG: Seumalo 2, Pryor 6, Herbig 7

OC: Kelce n/a (would never trade a lifetime Eagle at the deadline for his last few games pre-retirement).

DE: Barnett 0, Graham 0, Sweat 3, Avery 0

DT: Cox 4, Jackson 0.  Ridgeway 7.

LB: Gerry 6, Edwards 6, Riley 7, 

CB: Maddox 4, LeBlanc 6, 

S: Mcleod 4, Mills 5, Epps 0, Ford 0

 

Not a whole lot of players on the entire team that have appreciated from their original draft investment.  How would your price list differ?

 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Alright, while we are in panic mode...everyone, everyone, has a price.  If you had a yard sale, you'd put a price on everything.  If the Eagles had a firesale at the deadline, what would you take for every player on the roster?  Not what you'd ask for...what you'd take.  And their contract situation counts.  Rookies and first year Eagles don't count.  As always, my valuation of these players will be radically different from popular opinion.  0 means I'd give them and their contract away for nothing...might mean they suck, more likely means their contract is a problem.  Some players gain a bit of value just because they've been coached up in our system, have a role, and we have no one else.

QB: Wentz: 1,1,2, 2.  Sudfeld: 7

RB: Sanders: 2,4. Scott: 4. Clement: 0.

WR: JJAW 0, Ward 0, Jeffery 0, Desean 0 (clean sweep)

TE: Ertz 3, Goedert 1

OT: Peters 0.  Lane 1,3.  Mailata 6

OG: Seumalo 2, Pryor 6, Herbig 7

OC: Kelce n/a (would never trade a lifetime Eagle at the deadline for his last few games pre-retirement).

DE: Barnett 0, Graham 0, Sweat 3, Avery 0

DT: Cox 4, Jackson 0.  Ridgeway 7.

LB: Gerry 6, Edwards 6, Riley 7, 

CB: Maddox 4, LeBlanc 6, 

S: Mcleod 4, Mills 5, Epps 0, Ford 0

 

Not a whole lot of players on the entire team that have appreciated from their original draft investment.  How would your price list differ?

 

I would trade NRC if a team came calling at the deadline. He’s likely gone next year and Maddox could move back inside next year. To finish the year have Leblanc at slot and Maddox on the outside. 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I 100 percent disagree. Again this goes back to wentz throwing it exactly when you stopped and freezed it. Ramsey was beat last week by Gallup and fortunate they called a OPI. He was beat by a step and a half by Gallup and Dak delivered it leading Gallup and he couldn’t make that up without selling a OPI. that was a weak OPI he sold cause he knew he was beat Cause he was trailing him. I don’t care if Ramsey has his eyes on wentz. You are trail by that much and wentz bullets it to the back of the end zone i don’t see him making that up and if he does he’s not staying in bounds.

Goedert had 2.5 steps and maybe he got that cause Ramsey got caught looking in the backfield and was beat. The pictures show it as 2.5 steps. He has to make that up and keep himself in bounds with his momentum to make the play and not potentially get PI by running into goedert trying to make a play when trailing by 2-2.5 steps. That’s a ridiculously hard play to make even for an all pro. That’s open in the nfl especially throwing to the back of the end zone With a defender trailing by 2-2.5 steps. Dak made that throw last week and Ramsey was beat with less space.  Furthermore it’s not just the 2.5 steps he has to manage to not have his momentum carry him out of bounds.

Again if wentz releases it when you freezed and throws it to the back of the end zone leading goedert he has to make up that ground And make sure his momentum. That’s a risk throw you make. If he makes a play you tip your cap to him. But I’m guessing it’s going to either be incomplete or goedert is tip toeing for a td. 

the 2.5 steps you keep talking about where ramsey is "beat" is exactly what baiting is.  without those 2.5 steps, there is no bait.  i think ramsey could've pressed goedert a LOT tighter, but then why would carson throw it to him?  again, every one of my screenshots, you can see ramsey has his eyes on carson and he has his hips open to goedert.  if carson makes that throw, it is contested, and if not placed perfectly -- which carson seems to have lacked this season -- picked.

you see an "open" goedert cause ramsey wanted you to see one.  again, that is what baiting is.  the reason why i DO NOT think ramsey is "beat" is because his hips are open to goedert and he is not in a position to be turned around.  wherever carson throws the ball to try and get it to goedert, ramsey is in a position to make a play.  again ramsey IS MOVING with goedert.  something not seen in my screenshots.  ramsey looks planted, but he is not.  i assume you are looking at my screenshots like ramsey is not in motion and goedert is just running by him.  that is not the case.  ramsey is moving the whole time, hips open to goedert, eyes on carson...  waiting for him to take the bait.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I would trade NRC if a team came calling at the deadline. He’s likely gone next year and Maddox could move back inside next year. To finish the year have Leblanc at slot and Maddox on the outside. 

I'd hope their direct-TV wasn't working in week 2 if they are going to evaluate NRC.

59 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Yes he did he actually had a concussion. Came right back in. The NFL was not happy about that and after that came out with a concussion protocol. It was Week 1 versus Green Bay the year Kevin Kolb went out by halftime and Michael Vick took over

Leonard Weaver's last NFL game too.

What an absolute beast that guy was.

23 minutes ago, JayEcho said:

the 2.5 steps you keep talking about where ramsey is "beat" is exactly what baiting is.  without those 2.5 steps, there is no bait.  i think ramsey could've pressed goedert a LOT tighter, but then why would carson throw it to him?  again, every one of my screenshots, you can see ramsey has his eyes on carson and he has his hips open to goedert.  if carson makes that throw, it is contested, and if not placed perfectly -- which carson seems to have lacked this season -- picked.

you see an "open" goedert cause ramsey wanted you to see one.  again, that is what baiting is.  the reason why i DO NOT think ramsey is "beat" is because his hips are open to goedert and he is not in a position to be turned around.  wherever carson throws the ball to try and get it to goedert, ramsey is in a position to make a play.  again ramsey IS MOVING with goedert.  something not seen in my screenshots.  ramsey looks planted, but he is not.  i assume you are looking at my screenshots like ramsey is not in motion and goedert is just running by him.  that is not the case.  ramsey is moving the whole time, hips open to goedert, eyes on carson...  waiting for him to take the bait.

I know what baiting is. It could also be Ramsey is just beat like he was last week by Gallup when he got caught looking back at Dak for a split second. You assume it’s cause he’s baiting him Cause he’s looking back with his hips open. It could be either Imo. Cause last week he did the same thing and he was beat or he tried to bait and he gave too much room to make up. I’m taking the chance with 2.5 steps compared to last week when it was 1-1.5 by Gallup and he couldn’t make it up and had to sell an OPI  I’m also taking my chances if the football is placed properly he might have to run through goedert to make a play on the ball 

Again if you out the ball in the back of the end zone on a bullet he has to make up that 2.5 steps, keep momentum from going out of bounds if he makes a play on it and also worry about running into goedert trying to make a play. Again he was beat similarly last week when trailing by less. I get he’s running with goedert. However goedert isn’t going to stop running because he’s being led. And depending on how wentz throws the ball it’s going to be a difficult play for him to make being that many steps behind and where he needed to get in the back of the end zone unless wentz underthrows it or it’s a poor throw which is possible. If wentz delivers in frame 2 Leading goedert i do not believe Ramsey is going to make a pick. It’s either Ramsey makes a play on the ball to knock it away or he’s goes out of bounds Due to momentum or goedert is making a tip toe catch in the back of the end zone. There’s even the chance at a PI by Ramsey 

you can say it’s baiting, it very well be he was beat last week. Even if he was baiting i think he gave him way too much room if that were the case. That’s a lot of ground to make up. Either way 2.5 steps and a throw to the back of the end zone I’m taking my chances cause the odds are in my favor it’s incomplete or his momentum prevents him from being able to stay in bounds with a puck or he even runs into goedert or goedert catches it.  

He very well might Have been baiting him. he very well might have given goedert way too much space to make up if wentz delivers the ball in frame 2 even if he was baiting him. Again I’m taking my chances on 2.5 steps and a throw to the back of the end zone.

 

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Leonard Weaver's last NFL game too.

What an absolute beast that guy was.

Not sure what he ever really did here...I think we overrated him.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Not sure what he ever really did here...I think we overrated him.

Weaver? In what world was he ever overrated?

5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Weaver? In what world was he ever overrated?

This one.  The one in which he never managed 500 yards from scrimmage or more than 3 career rushing TDs while just being an OK blocking fullback.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

This one.

Wat

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Wat

I am so confused!

🤣🤦🏻‍♂️

 

23 minutes ago, JayEcho said:

the 2.5 steps you keep talking about where ramsey is "beat" is exactly what baiting is.  without those 2.5 steps, there is no bait.  i think ramsey could've pressed goedert a LOT tighter, but then why would carson throw it to him?  again, every one of my screenshots, you can see ramsey has his eyes on carson and he has his hips open to goedert.  if carson makes that throw, it is contested, and if not placed perfectly -- which carson seems to have lacked this season -- picked.

you see an "open" goedert cause ramsey wanted you to see one.  again, that is what baiting is.  the reason why i DO NOT think ramsey is "beat" is because his hips are open to goedert and he is not in a position to be turned around.  wherever carson throws the ball to try and get it to goedert, ramsey is in a position to make a play.  again ramsey IS MOVING with goedert.  something not seen in my screenshots.  ramsey looks planted, but he is not.  i assume you are looking at my screenshots like ramsey is not in motion and goedert is just running by him.  that is not the case.  ramsey is moving the whole time, hips open to goedert, eyes on carson...  waiting for him to take the bait.

I posted this INT at the time and got pushback for saying it was a great play by Ramsey; I guess some folks aren’t impressed by a CB who can come off coverage and pick off a ball near the goal posts.

Wentz wasn’t getting that throw to Goedert, and he remembered this throw as part of that decision not to try it.

This is the Goedert play we should be talking about. Bad miss. 

 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

This is the Goedert play we should be talking about. Bad miss. 

 

Yeah, he's not that open...

I’m going to predict Wentz’s stat line for next week at 30/44 and 360 yards.

Full disclosure, I also predicted JJAW would surpass 40 yards receiving in Week 1, and he’s not likely to get there anytime soon.

9 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I posted this INT at the time and got pushback for saying it was a great play by Ramsey; I guess some folks aren’t impressed by a CB who can come off coverage and pick off a ball near the goal posts.

Wentz wasn’t getting that throw to Goedert, and he remembered this throw as part of that decision not to try it.

First that was an awful throw by wentz as footwork was awful and he didn’t get enough on it due to that and threw it way too late as Ramsey already made a break to Perkins cause we had no one on that side of the field to cover on the outside  

better angle of that pick is this. Ramsey legitimately was covering no one and saw Perkins and played the angle to pick it off and Perkins was slowing down on a poor throw at that point With a guy underneath as well.   

 

1 minute ago, Desertbirds said:

Yeah, he's not that open...

Ehhh. That’s a big target to miss, and he couldn’t even deliver a catchable pass. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

Ehhh. That’s a big target to miss, and he couldn’t even deliver a catchable pass. 

Yup.  Deep safety was out of position and Wentz could have just floated it up to Goedert towards the middle.

 

 

 

11 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

This is the Goedert play we should be talking about. Bad miss. 

 

Not nearly as much space but a throw out in front of goedert then goedert has a chance to haul that in for a nice gain. That was a bad throw. 

I also would say mechanics by wentz on that throw. It looks like he’s doing a fade-away like in basketball type throw with his follow through. Like falling away After released instead of stepping up into it.