1 hour ago, greend said:

Cox isn't cooked. This place is ridiculous.

Is Cox as good as he was? No. Cooked? No. He's still a plus run-defender who's getting double-teamed on passing downs. Opposing teams have started to double Jackson more, which was the point of bringing him better talent besides Cox.

Let him get healthy.

And I love Goedert- so Ertz I'd understand but Ertz draws the double teams, not Goedert.  But the truth is we can't afford both and having to make that choice I choose G due to age.  He's gonna want 10 million a year at least so cant have 20 million plus in TE.  But Ertz is the better TE right now

9 hours ago, ManuManu said:

 

So he might play by week 5.  Let me ask again, what's the point of keeping him on the roster for the first 6 games rather than PUP?  They could have that roster spot for I don't know an extra O-lineman, CB, a different WR.  Roster moves make no sense.

If they had DJack on a pitch count his first game back and he was 100% healthy for some time there's no chance Alshon is playing his first full game back.  So we are probably going to be lucky to see him play 40-50 snaps in the fist 6 weeks of the season.

I absolutely hate how this team just uses up roster spots and draft picks.

9 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I saw Mack hollins... still not catching footballs. 

Hold on one second!

 

4 hours ago, TrotterIsGod said:

Oh Randy ! .... You came and you gave without taking !

But I sent you away JB .... Oh Randy !

 

Randy Marsh, possibly the best TV character ever.

1 hour ago, greend said:

Amen

 

Recapping the last 2 weeks

Howie needs fired- Howie has done an absolute miserable job and it seems Lurie is blind to it.  How much leeway did SB52 give Howie?  The team he built is not going in the right direction.  If the Eagles don't improve this season then yes, I think he should be on his way out.

Doug needs fired- DP is still a good coach.  He will never give a good PC.  His injury updates are the worst I've ever heard.  I don't think he needs to be fired but if the season doesn't improve then he should be on the hot seat next year.

Carson needs traded- Carson has been trash.  Not time to trade him but the Eagles can only thank themselves for this situation.  Don't hire the right coaches to push Carson and draft a QB in the 2nd round.  Let's hope Carson stays healthy.  All it's going to take is one exciting quarter from Hurts to get the media turned on Wentz even more.  I want Carson to be the QB for the next 10 year but he needs to turn it around.

Cox and Malik are cooked- This one I'm on board with.  At least with Fletcher.  He might not be cooked but he isn't anywhere near the same player he was and in no way worth his contract.  If a team offered a 3rd rounder for him at the deadline, I'm doing it.  Malik has been a bright spot IMO.

Tank for Lawrence - No.  

Trade Ertz - Another one that I am on board with.  I've been saying that since last year ended.  It's time for DG to be the #1 tight end.  With cap hell imminent invested in an aging tight end when you have a younger, better version already is just a horrible use of cap space.  There are so many other needs on this team moving forward (DE, OL, CB, LB, WR)

Even if we beat the Bengals we're done - I think you mean if we lose.  If we lose to the Bengals I think there is a serious cause for concern.  Season won't be done but it also doesn't get any easier.  The 49ers game is a lot easier now with all of their injuries.

 

So basically trade and fire everyone and start from scratch, sounds like a solid plan (if you're a moron)

 

 

Did I miss anything? I mean "we're from Philly and we quit should be our motto."

 

The Blog is a mere shadow of what it once was or even what it truly could be. Still a little better than tate but the gap is very small.

I agree, there's always an overreaction, especially when the Eagles lose.  Heck I take part in half of it.  Out of your entire list the only things I can somewhat or mostly agree with, especially if the season keeps going the way it is:

Fire Howie after the season, OR, bring in a real GM for player moves an let Howie be the cap man again.

Cox is not who he once was.  Not cooked but I'm taking a 3rd without thinking about it.

It's time to move on from Ertz.  Too many needs and no money to fill them.  DG is ready to blossom.  Investing in Ertz is just bad in the big picture.

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Why the first two but none of the rest? I think there's some merit in some of the others but I'm not so sure Doug should be fired. 

Doug is a good motivator and has the support of his team. I dont think he needs to be fired, but I think he needs to be forced to give up his responsibilities of the OC, game planning, scripting and play calling. I like Doug in the role of a Tom Coughlin or Belicheat. Be the HC, support your coaches, support and inspire your team. If he refuses then there is no other choice but to let him go. Jim is already gone at the end of the season so that is not a issue. This team needs an entire scheme 180 on both sides of the ball. 

2 hours ago, greend said:

Amen

 

Recapping the last 2 weeks

Howie needs fired

Doug needs fired

Carson needs traded

Cox and Malik are cooked

Tank for Lawrence

Trade Ertz

Even if we beat the Bengals we're done

 

So basically trade and fire everyone and start from scratch, sounds like a solid plan (if you're a moron)

 

 

Did I miss anything? I mean "we're from Philly and we quit should be our motto."

 

The Blog is a mere shadow of what it once was or even what it truly could be. Still a little better than tate but the gap is very small.

Don't forget Stoutland isn't actually any good. 

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Trading everyone and firing everyone is not the answer. But firing Howie? Absolutely. Trading Ertz? That makes sense. Considering a trade for Cox? There's logic there. 

Eagles, Patriots, Chiefs, Saints ...... those are the only 4 NFL teams to make the playoffs each of the past 3 seasons.

At 0-2 after two games the Eagles MIGHT not make the playoffs this season, although they're one game back of the division lead with only 14 games left to go ..... 

Firing the GM isn't going to happen this season, or next.  It wouldn't happen ANYWHERE -- so it isn't going to happen here.

42 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

 

You’re missing out on one hell of a thread in RnR

11 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Don't forget Stoutland isn't actually any good. 

I still don't understand how anyone can watch OL play around the NFL and think Stoutland is the problem in Philly. 

Just now, RLC said:

I still don't understand how anyone can watch OL play around the NFL and think Stoutland is the problem in Philly. 

It has to be an overreaction from week 1.

50 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

So he might play by week 5.  Let me ask again, what's the point of keeping him on the roster for the first 6 games rather than PUP?  They could have that roster spot for I don't know an extra O-lineman, CB, a different WR.  Roster moves make no sense.

If they had DJack on a pitch count his first game back and he was 100% healthy for some time there's no chance Alshon is playing his first full game back.  So we are probably going to be lucky to see him play 40-50 snaps in the fist 6 weeks of the season.

I absolutely hate how this team just uses up roster spots and draft picks.

I think they were hoping to trade him and can't trade a player on pup.

I think it is pretty evident nobody wants to trade for jeffrey.

You see it through with Doug and Wentz.  

Once you start changing the coach to salvage the QB, that almost never ends well.  That's the coach killer cycle.  We've already learned that Wentz hasn't come back from change well, so a new coach and new scheme aren't going to help things.

And if you choose to axe the QB...keep in mind what they have invested in Wentz.  Keep in mind Hurts is not a good passer.  They will have no chance at competing until they tank for a QB with Wentz level talent.  So you might as well see this through for another 2 years with Wentz.

There is no scenario in which you let go of either one.  Play through the whole course.  You don't quit on the back 9 just because one hole was a double bogey.  You can fire them together in 2 years if there is no improvement.  

43 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Don't forget Stoutland isn't actually any good. 

Neither is Taco Bell

19 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

You see it through with Doug and Wentz.  

Once you start changing the coach to salvage the QB, that almost never ends well.  That's the coach killer cycle.  We've already learned that Wentz hasn't come back from change well, so a new coach and new scheme aren't going to help things.

And if you choose to axe the QB...keep in mind what they have invested in Wentz.  Keep in mind Hurts is not a good passer.  They will have no chance at competing until they tank for a QB with Wentz level talent.  So you might as well see this through for another 2 years with Wentz.

There is no scenario in which you let go of either one.  Play through the whole course.  You don't quit on the back 9 just because one hole was a double bogey.  You can fire them together in 2 years if there is no improvement.  

I mean Pederson won a Super Bowl without Wentz.  He has gotten the team to the playoffs without Wentz.  I don't think Pederson is going.  

8 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Disagree. A new voice is exactly what Wentz needs. 

I've heard that about a lot of QBs who went on to get a lot of coaches fired.

And if Doug gets fired in the next year, I can say with a pretty high degree of confidence that Duce is our next HC.

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

Bold Prediction. 

Doug calls a good game, lots of runs. sticks with it. Carson ends up with 27-29 attempts(a dozen lower then his yearly average) Eagles control the ball and win in very convincing manner. 

Next week against the 9ers. Everything goes out the window. Doug has Wentz throwing the ball 51 times, Eagles get spanked and Wentz looks like poop

What's bold about that prediction? Bold would be saying Wentz is going to throw for 50 TD this season.  

I definitely expect a convincing win over the Bengals.

They are a horrible team.  Burrow is a great prospect who has exceeded expectations through 2 weeks...but now that's 2 weeks of information to hone in on bad tendencies and to show him things he has not seen before.  

Wentz is playing for respect against a bottom 3 defense.  Schwartz is coaching for his job against a rookie QB.  The offensive assistant posse are coaching to justify their existence against a bottom 3 defense.  And the rest of the players, nearly all of them, are trying to play their way off the trading block.  

This still isn't a good team, but with all that motivation, I expect a massive effort leading to a never-in-doubt win.

I give them a 50/50 shot of getting back to .500 against a SB hungover injury decimated SF squad too.

After that?  All bets are off.  I don't like their chances in any one matchup besides the Giants.

6 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I definitely expect a convincing win over the Bengals.

They are a horrible team.  Burrow is a great prospect who has exceeded expectations through 2 weeks...but now that's 2 weeks of information to hone in on bad tendencies and to show him things he has not seen before.  

Wentz is playing for respect against a bottom 3 defense.  Schwartz is coaching for his job against a rookie QB.  The offensive assistant posse are coaching to justify their existence against a bottom 3 defense.  And the rest of the players, nearly all of them, are trying to play their way off the trading block.  

This still isn't a good team, but with all that motivation, I expect a massive effort leading to a never-in-doubt win.

I give them a 50/50 shot of getting back to .500 against a SB hungover injury decimated SF squad too.

After that?  All bets are off.  I don't like their chances in any one matchup besides the Giants.

They're a bad team; they're NOT the Jets. The Jets are truly terrible.

If Cox can't go, and Hargrave still isn't healthy, the Bengals are going to go 4-5 WR on every play and just attack our weakest CB. Burrow is fast enough to make this work. Slay will takeout which WR we want to (likely Green), but Boyd will eat up CB #2. Mixon in space against our LBs will be tough as well.

Their defense is bad without Daniels/Atkins, so we'll probably win a high-scoring game.

Here's a clue. Nobody is going anywhere. It will take at least 2 losing seasons before Doug or Howie is fired especially after we won it all in 2017, There is a natural re-build after that happens most of the time. Everyone grow up and put your big boy pants on and let's see what this season brings.

57 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I think they were hoping to trade him and can't trade a player on pup.

I think it is pretty evident nobody wants to trade for jeffrey.

You can trade a player op pup 

Just now, RLC said:

They're a bad team; they're NOT the Jets. The Jets are truly terrible.

If Cox can't go, and Hargrave still isn't healthy, the Bengals are going to go 4-5 WR on every play and just attack our weakest CB. Burrow is fast enough to make this work. Slay will takeout which WR we want to (likely Green), but Boyd will eat up CB #2. Mixon in space against our LBs will be tough as well.

Their defense is bad without Daniels/Atkins, so we'll probably win a high-scoring game.

I realize that our defense doesn't match up well on paper against anyone, but I think Schwartz will knock Burrow and the rest of that offense off balance on this one.  

It's just a hunch, but it seems right.  Through 2 weeks, it's time for Burrow to get a little caught up in his fanfare of being so good so soon and get his 'welcome to the NFL' moment.  

And while I trust our offense to run it up a bit against a bad Bengals defense, I don't trust them to reliably win in a shootout if the Bengals O DOES keep pace.  That would scare me.

59 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I think they were hoping to trade him and can't trade a player on pup.

I think it is pretty evident nobody wants to trade for jeffrey.

Thanks to Howie, completely setting aside the contract situation, we yet again find ourselves in a position where Jeffery is worth more to us than he is to anyone else.  

He might be our #1 WR when he returns.  

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

 

Go to R&R, read the we need Dave’s input thread.

46 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I've heard that about a lot of QBs who went on to get a lot of coaches fired.

And if Doug gets fired in the next year, I can say with a pretty high degree of confidence that Duce is our next HC.

At least the players Duce coaches improve!