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8 minutes ago, RLC said:

What great company

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Any word about Watkins?  

5 hours ago, greend said:

How far back are you going? Cox?  Graham? 

As far as Wentz, I will say this. If he continues to play as he has so far this year...................yes. Whether his skull is still rattled or teams have figured him out, he needs to get it going or the answer to that is yes.

I could never find the link/tweet/whatever from 2012 to show this...and it's water so far under the bridge by now...but I recall some fairly well-informed rumblings from multiple sources in April 2012 that AR's seat was heating up, which was balanced by AR's own mounting frustration with the organization.  Howie was installed as the GM, by Lurie, as a check on AR's control as his own frustration with AR started to boil over...starting in 2010.  Under Howie's influence, the 2010 draft was looking really bad (Graham called himself a bust that offseason) and the 2011 draft already looked abysmal.  So there were rumblings of a power struggle between AR and Howie, with the 2012 draft being AR's last stand and mostly his doing.  This had been reported at the time, before 2012 retrospectively started to look like a nice draft.  AR made that grab in April...then the team tanked in 2012, so Lurie lowered the axe.  

 

A couple reporters floated this at the time, but it's impossible to substantiate now.  Who knows if it was ever true anyway.  

Even with Nick Bosa, Solomon Thomas and Dee Ford on the Niners injured list their DL has talent.  Why do I get the sinking feeling that Sunday night’s game will be a replay of Week 1 with Wentz getting sacked a half dozen or more times, and Doug continuing to dial up slow developing pass plays?

 


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"Even if they got the win [vs. the Bengals], it's not a good football team. If they'd won that ballgame, I'm still feeling the same way about this team. 

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"The roster has fallen off, really suddenly. It's compounded by being the most snakebit team in football, when it comes to injuries. I get that. Reagor, DeSean, Goedert yesterday - they've gone youth, and the youth hasn't stayed healthy. I know I'm biased, I'm the old guy who moved on and it might sound like sour grapes. I'm only airing this out because I'm analyzing the game. You know? 2017 was f***ing lightning in a bottle, and that's maybe magic we can only recreate. We didn't build to that. I say we, I wasn't there before. We didn't build to that, it just happened. Then there was a regression to the mean, and now it looks like the window's kind of closed. They're not a good football team right now."

12 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Even with Nick Bosa, Solomon Thomas and Dee Ford on the Niners injured list their DL has talent.  Why do I get the sinking feeling that Sunday night’s game will be a replay of Week 1 with Wentz getting sacked a half dozen or more times, and Doug continuing to dial up slow developing pass plays?

Because we couldn't even beat the freaking Bengals who are worse than the injured Niners squad.

People have been telling me that Hightower struggled to get open.

Maybe we can just run victory formation all game and play the field position battle. End the game 0-0 and 0-2-2

1 minute ago, RLC said:

People have been telling me that Hightower struggled to get open.

Carson probably doesn't trust him yet. He had the week 1 gaffe and then probably ran the wrong route in this game on that throw that went over his head to Ertz

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Maybe we can just run victory formation all game and play the field position battle. End the game 0-0 and 0-2-2

Or we just hand off to sanders every snap. Solid game plan. Neutralizes then pass rush. 

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

People have been telling me that Hightower struggled to get open.

You mean receivers period. The scheme can look bad at times (second half vs Washington), but this is compounded by a QB that is completely rattled. 

Bottom line: Doug’s playcalling isn’t the problem. 

11 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Even with Nick Bosa, Solomon Thomas and Dee Ford on the Niners injured list their DL has talent.  Why do I get the sinking feeling that Sunday night’s game will be a replay of Week 1 with Wentz getting sacked a half dozen or more times, and Doug continuing to dial up slow developing pass plays?

I watched the Giants/49ers game earlier today. Despite their injuries at the DE position they are still stout up front. They got consistent pressure on Daniel Jones pretty much all day. Even draft bust Dion Jordan managed to get a sack. The Giants did absolutely nothing on the ground. Their only running game is QB keeper/read-option type plays with Daniel Jones running the ball. They averaged 1.7 YPC otherwise.

Also Nick Mullens was pretty careless with the ball at times in the first half. The Giants also did get some pressure before the game got out of hand for them. Mullens did get a lot better in the 2nd half but the Giants were dominated in the TOP battle so it's likely their defense was worn down by that point.

One thing to watch is their long snapper situation. The 49ers botched 2 extra point attempts and a field goal due to issues between the long snapper and place holder. They apparently are bringing in some guys for tryouts at LS this week. That could be something that works in our favor.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Carson probably doesn't trust him yet. He had the week 1 gaffe and then probably ran the wrong route in this game on that throw that went over his head to Ertz

People really haven’t even been saying that though. People said he’s a rookie and is going to have a lot of ups and downs learning to play the WR position at the nfl as a rookie along with this pandemic offseason. Relying on him to be consistent every week is a bad bet to take on and i love his talent and upside. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Or we just hand off to sanders every snap. Solid game plan. Neutralizes then pass rush. 

Can't. We need to lean on JJAW. Sanders is fatigued. 

1 hour ago, Saltpeter said:

Always a snappy remark from y'all smh.

You have plenty of valid reasons to complain about Howie Roseman. Thinking he could predict a foot injury from an extremely durable Malik Jackson is just showing you have an agenda.

I have no agenda.  I generally think Roseman has done well.  I do think roster construction is a real problem and the question of the amount of resources spent at DT is a real one given the salary cap issues the team will have next season.  So while in a vacuum the Malik Jackson signing wasn't bad.  It wasn't the right move for the team last season.  I mean look at the other free agents the Eagles could have targeted instead of Jackson.  I mean they could have signed John Brown at WR in addition to trading for DeSean.  They could have kept Jordan Hicks.  I mean would you rather they had Jordan Hicks or the dreg the team has now.  

Howie spent 2018 and 2019 trying to re-create 2017.  The problem is that he has not drafted well so there is only aging talent to build around. For example, Nate Gerry is not an adequate replacement for Michael Kendricks or Jordan Hicks.  Andrew Dillard did not come in last season and look like a good replacement for Peters.  JJAW has not provided a replacement level player for Agholor.   He is a year behind and every year compounds the issues.  I have no doubt that they will look to rebuild in this offseason.  Of course, they should have done that last offseason or in 2019.  

1 minute ago, metal said:

I watched the Giants/49ers game earlier today. Despite their injuries at the DE position they are still stout up front. They got consistent pressure on Daniel Jones pretty much all day. Even draft bust Dion Jordan managed to get a sack. The Giants did absolutely nothing on the ground. Their only running game is QB keeper/read-option type plays with Daniel Jones running the ball. They averaged 1.7 YPC otherwise.

Also Nick Mullens was pretty careless with the ball at times in the first half. The Giants also did get some pressure before the game got out of hand for them. Mullens did get a lot better in the 2nd half but the Giants were dominated in the TOP battle so it's likely their defense was worn down by that point.

One thing to watch is their long snapper situation. The 49ers botched 2 extra point attempts and a field goal due to issues between the long snapper and place holder. They apparently are bringing in some guys for tryouts at LS this week. That could be something that works in our favor.

It would be good if the defense could do that thing that always happens to our offense.  I forget what they're called since it's been so long.  

I haven't watched enough Trevor Lawrence to have much of an opinion on him...but I will caution that true celebrity NCAA QBs have not historically fared well in the NFL.  

Not many NCAA players achieve national celebrity status, even future top 5 picks.  In recent years, that list includes Mike Vick, Johnny Manziel, Tim Tebow...Baker Mayfield was fairly close.  Vince Young, Cam Newton, Matt Leinart too.  

Burrow caught attention at the end of last year, but he was never a celebrity.  Ditto other first round picks like Mahomes, Wentz, Goff, Rodgers, or most other top of the draft QBs.

Every first round QB is the BMOC and is hyped up in football circles, but only a few become national celebrities in college.  Most of the ones that do seem to fizzle out in the NFL.  I don't know if it's a hunger thing because they feel like they've already made it and have been to the top...or a coincidence, but it is worth considering with Trevor Lawrence.  

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Can't. We need to lean on JJAW. Sanders is fatigued. 

Maybe doug was thinking about a lean corned beef sandwich when talking about JJAW and mixed up what he said. 

52 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think its about a 99% chance he misses from 64. Either short or blocked. 64 is the NFL record and was in Denver so high altitude played a factor. I wanted them to go for a pass and try to get out of bounds. 

I think an out of bounds pass would have been easier. A 5 yard completion on 4th and 12?

Easy peasy. 

Trevor Lawrence is the real deal and if the Eagles are smart, they should be actively tanking for him.

15 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Carson probably doesn't trust him yet. He had the week 1 gaffe and then probably ran the wrong route in this game on that throw that went over his head to Ertz

He’s getting there, though.  Threw to him three times on that game-winning (sorry, game-tying, HA) drive and came out with one catch and two drawn PI calls.

In retrospect I’m a bit surprised Doug didn’t just try a 2-point conversion after Wentz’s TD

 

Just now, xBMTx said:

Trevor Lawrence is the real deal and if the Eagles are smart, they should be actively tanking for him.

Hurts is already here.

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