Cox's base salary this year is 11.2M. So if we trade him after week 6, his salary to the team acquiring him is about 7M. That number decreases each additional week we hold onto him.

6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

So tieing Carson down when you did was a good move was it?

 

 

Just now, ManuManu said:

Your previous Wentz comments have made you a suspect. No one will give you the benefit of the doubt. 

I'm obviously not "high" on Wentz atm but I haven't given up on him or the team yet.  I've seen him turn it around before.  The only thing I'm relatively serious about is if he has some sort of nagging injury bothering him. 

4 minutes ago, greend said:

Some of you people act like you are judging Wentz on 3 pretty bad games as if you don't know that the ability is there.

The ability is there.  And the ONLY right decision is to see through his development for the next 2 years, minimum.  You need to be at the top of the draft to sniff a talent like him, so you see it through to completion when you have one.

WITH THAT SAID, I'd be lying if I said he's been good enough or that I expect it to end well.  The odds are officially stacked against him.

I'd actually draw a parallel to Foles.  Foles was incredible in 2013, much like Wentz in 2017.  Foles was incredible in the NFCCG and SB too.  We have since learned and accepted...that's not who Foles can ever be for a full season.  Chip made a mistake punting on Foles just 1 year removed from that 2013 season.  But much like 2017/NFCCG/SB Foles, with every passing week, month, and year, it's becoming increasingly apparent that 2017 Carson just ain't Carson.  Both players get HOT when they are hot, but both are not sustainable at that level due to injuries and inconsistencies.  

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Send the hookers and Pizza up to my office. 

58 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Cox’s contract really isn’t that bad for any team trading for him if I’m understanding Spotrac (I’m probably not). The yearly cash the acquiring team would have to pay $16M in 2021 and $17M in 2022.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/fletcher-cox-9822/

It depends on what that option bonus is. From the contract notes it was exercised in 2019 but i'm not sure if it was actually paid or if its an annual bonus he receives. It looks to me like it's an annual bonus so the team trading for him would be on the hook for that. 

LOL gold

 

Just now, DeathByEagle said:

Send the hookers and Haagen-Dazs up to my office. 

Fixed.

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

 

Yes

 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It depends on what that option bonus is. From the contract notes it was exercised in 2019 but i'm not sure if it was actually paid or if its an annual bonus he receives. It looks to me like it's an annual bonus so the team trading for him would be on the hook for that. 

That was the confusing part to me, but wasn’t sure why that wouldn’t have been included in the year cash column. There’s no way he gets his yearly salary without the option getting picked up. 

Trading a disgruntled quality starter,  is easier then trading a quality player because a team  is having a clearance sale ,because said team is bad. The team is bad for a reason, because it's so called stars are not playing well....and other teams know this...not to mention the bad contract that comes with the underperforming player.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Would you trade a 3rd round pick for the right to pay a 30 year old DT who isn’t a great pass rusher $33m over the next 2 years?  I wouldn’t.

Some of you guys really underrate Cox (heh.) He's fine as a pass rusher. Put him on a competent defense, and he'd have the numbers to match his talent.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

Some of you guys really underrate Cox (heh.) He's find as a pass rusher. Put him on a competent defense, and he'd have the numbers to match his talent.

Hoping our new DC next year will get more out of him. 

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

Some of you guys really underrate Cox (heh.) He's find as a pass rusher. Put him on a competent defense, and he'd have the numbers to match his talent.

He’s playing next to $25m of DTs, a first round RDE, an emerging RDE in Sweat, and a competent high motor relentless type in Graham.  Sure, the LBs suck, but that’s not hurting him.   

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

In fairness, the team did get Goodwin.  I mean he was an oft injured vet that then opted out but yeah he was part of the plan. 

You aren't Bill O'Brien.  

Yeah the goodwin plan was also a bad plan. guy is hurt all the time and hadn’t been good since 2017. 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

That was the confusing part to me, but wasn’t sure why that wouldn’t have been included in the year cash column. There’s no way he gets his yearly salary without the option getting picked up. 

Yea, not sure. It's no where to be found in the yearly cash column. Not in each individual year or when it was exercised. Could be they just never updated it since his last restructure. OTC has it under "prorated bonus" fwiw.

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

He’s playing next to $25m of DTs, a first round RDE, an emerging RDE in Sweat, and a competent high motor relentless type in Graham.  Sure, the LBs suck, but that’s not hurting him.   

Yeah, this defense is a great fit for Fletcher.

15 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I'm obviously not "high" on Wentz atm but I haven't given up on him or the team yet.  I've seen him turn it around before.  The only thing I'm relatively serious about is if he has some sort of nagging injury bothering him. 

Are you still high on desean?

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah the goodwin plan was also a bad plan. guy is hurt all the time and hadn’t been good since 2017. 

Goodwin, Hightower, and Watkins were (collectively) acquired for a total value of 43 draft points.  That's an early 5th round pick.

A 5th round pick isn't a plan, it's going into the local drug store and picking up a lottery ticket.

They went into the season with the expectation that a 1st round rookie and a combined 5th round pick would fix the WR problems.  

Just now, eagle45 said:

They went into the season with the expectation that a 1st round rookie and a combined 5th round pick would fix the WR problems.  

No no that's not fair... They also expected Desean to stay healthy. A completely fair assumption to make. 

😬

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Goodwin, Hightower, and Watkins were (collectively) acquired for a total value of 43 draft points.  That's an early 5th round pick.

A 5th round pick isn't a plan, it's going into the local drug store and picking up a lottery ticket.

They went into the season with the expectation that a 1st round rookie and a combined 5th round pick would fix the WR problems.  

Well said. 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Goodwin, Hightower, and Watkins were (collectively) acquired for a total value of 43 draft points.  That's an early 5th round pick.

A 5th round pick isn't a plan, it's going into the local drug store and picking up a lottery ticket.

They went into the season with the expectation that a 1st round rookie and a combined 5th round pick would fix the WR problems.  

Yup it’s why i said it was a dumb plan after the draft. I thought It was idiotic to head into the draft doing nothing at WR. The problem at WR comes down to bad contracts and bad planning 

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Are you still high on desean?

If he can stay on the field and if Wentz gets him the ball, I'm confident he can still make plays.  But neither is happening at this point so it is what it is.