13 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

He’s playing next to $25m of DTs, a first round RDE, an emerging RDE in Sweat, and a competent high motor relentless type in Graham.  Sure, the LBs suck, but that’s not hurting him.   

It does because teams know they can double him with nothing to fear in the second level and the lack of logic around here is astounding. 
 

poster 1-  bg and Barnett are disappointments and not nearly as good as their first round draft stock. 
 

poster 2- he’s playing next to first round studs and big contracts!!  (As though that means these players are good)

4 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

No no that's not fair... They also expected Desean to stay healthy. A completely fair assumption to make. 

😬

Yeah who would have thought

desean would get hurt and not reliable...

3 rookies would be up and down as rookies and dealt with a pandemic offseason....

JJAW would continue being a bust...

alshon should be fine coming off a lis franc injury and not playing in 10 months.....

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

If he can stay on the field and if Wentz gets him the ball, I'm confident he can still make plays.  But neither is happening at this point so it is what it is. 

Yeah that pipe dream was done 3 years ago. He can’t stay on the field. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah who would have thought

desean would get hurt and not reliable...

3 rookies would be up and down as rookies and dealt with a pandemic offseason....

JJAW would continue being a bust...

alshon should be fine coming off a lis franc injury and not playing in 10 months.....

I mean it blows my mind it really does. 

How can a GM be that incompetent? How can he have looked at the WR group and thought that it was OK? 

Don't get me wrong I liked taking Hightower and Watkins after Reagor! But in a Covid world it was always going to be an up and down year at best from the rookies. 

To hope that DeSean can stay healthy for more than a couple of games isn't a strategy. It's foolish and I'm struggling to feel too much sympathy for the current situation which is in part the making of the GM.

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah who would have thought

desean would get hurt and not reliable...

3 rookies would be up and down in a pandemic offseason....

JJAW would continue being a bust...

alshon should be fine coming off a lis franc injury and not playing in 10 months.....

Yeah that pipe dream was done 3 years ago. He can’t stay on the field. 

 

So is it all the receivers fault?  Including Greg Ward, Ertz, Sanders and Goedert who all seem to be playing well?  Or does Wentz hold any accountability?  (And the fact that he has among the worst (if not the the worst) QB and QBR rating in the NFL?

 

 

You can't kidnap people and lock them in their basement.

 

10 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I mean it blows my mind it really does. 

How can a GM be that incompetent? How can he have looked at the WR group and thought that it was OK? 

Don't get me wrong I liked taking Hightower and Watkins after Reagor! But in a Covid world it was always going to be an up and down year at best from the rookies. 

To hope that DeSean can stay healthy for more than a couple of games isn't a strategy. It's foolish and I'm struggling to feel too much sympathy for the current situation which is in part the making of the GM.

I think you have to put a lot of stock into the idea that he was banking on a big cap increase. As soon as the pandemic hit, his entire plan was screwed and shifts to save money as much as possible. 

9 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

So is it all the receivers fault?  Including Greg Ward, Ertz, Sanders and Goedert who all seem to be playing well?  Or does Wentz hold any accountability?  (And the fact that he has among the worst (if not the the worst) QB and QBR rating in the NFL?

 

 

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle but leaning towards Wentz as the bigger issue is my suspicion. 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

I think you have to put a lot of stock into the idea that he was banking on a big cap increase. As soon as the pandemic hit, his entire plan was screwed and shifts to save money as much as possible. 

I think that's giving him an excuse though. He still spent in FA. He still made moves in the off season. He brought in another expensive DT, was that really necessary? Given the state of the WR room. He traded for Slay who's on a good contract. Was that really necessary? I mean don't get me wrong Slay has played so well but ultimately is that move going to help this team progress? I don't think so. 

29 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

So is it all the receivers fault?  Including Greg Ward, Ertz, Sanders and Goedert who all seem to be playing well?  Or does Wentz hold any accountability?  (And the fact that he has among the worst (if not the the worst) QB and QBR rating in the NFL?

 

 

Who the hell said it was all the receivers fault? No we are saying it was a bad plan at at wr. JFC are you incapable of reading or do you just make up narratives to move the fence from the discussion at hand? Literally no one said wentz wasn’t also at fault. Two things can be true: wentz has played like crap and the wrs plan was an awful plan (which you continuously seem to put all your eggs in the basket if an injury prone desean and a wr not playing in 10 months coming off a major lis franc injury)

but please continue to inform all of us about the greatness of desean over the last 3 years. You know missing 40 percent of his games. And when he did play his  per game average of 55 yards, 3.5 receptions and .4 tds. That clearly justifies his unbelievable greatness over a three year span. 

and please don’t give us this crap you aren’t off the wentz wagon. You’ve been off since the night you came on here wasted and went on about foles and bashing wentz. Those are your feelings stick with them. At least Bobby had the balls to stick with his belief and not pander to whom he was talking too. 

One fit WR at practice?  This chap is still interested, or so I hear

 

Just now, UK Eagle said:

One fit WR at practice?  This chap is still interested, or so I hear

 

At this point let's not rule anything out. Dire times call for dire actions. 

13 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think that's giving him an excuse though. He still spent in FA. He still made moves in the off season. He brought in another expensive DT, was that really necessary? Given the state of the WR room. He traded for Slay who's on a good contract. Was that really necessary? I mean don't get me wrong Slay has played so well but ultimately is that move going to help this team progress? I don't think so. 

I don't mean it as he should get a free pass, because you are right, I think the Hargrave contract should have been allocated elsewhere. I think without all the cap uncertainty he may have tried to get a Robby Anderson or someone else though. 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don't mean it as he should get a free pass, because you are right, I think the Hargrave contract should have been allocated elsewhere. I think without all the cap uncertainty he may have tried to get a Robby Anderson or someone else though. 

He may well have done but I think bringing in someone like Anderson would have been a better use of cap space. But hey I mean it's not going to have turned things around to the point where this is a roster that's going to win a lot of games. Just one of many nails in Howie's coffin. 

The real question is which of you maniacs is watching Brett Rypein vs Sam Darnold tonight, and why do you hate yourself?

46 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah who would have thought

desean would get hurt and not reliable...

3 rookies would be up and down as rookies and dealt with a pandemic offseason....

JJAW would continue being a bust...

alshon should be fine coming off a lis franc injury and not playing in 10 months.....

Yeah that pipe dream was done 3 years ago. He can’t stay on the field. 

Yep.  They really aren't getting (or not getting) anything from anyone that should be considered much of a surprise at the WR position.

27 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think that's giving him an excuse though. He still spent in FA. He still made moves in the off season. He brought in another expensive DT, was that really necessary? Given the state of the WR room. He traded for Slay who's on a good contract. Was that really necessary? I mean don't get me wrong Slay has played so well but ultimately is that move going to help this team progress? I don't think so. 

Yes contrary to popular belief we do need to invest in the defense. In fact they really should have done even more than just those 2 given how little they’ve invested on it past few years in the draft and how old they’re getting. We can’t just be focusing on offense every offseason and expect to improve. 

5 minutes ago, wtfcares said:

Yes contrary to popular belief we do need to invest in the defense. In fact they really should have done even more than just those 2 given how little they’ve invested on it past few years in the draft and how old they’re getting. We can’t just be focusing on offense every offseason and expect to improve. 

We've focused on defense.  We've focused on offense.  The problem is that everyone Howie drafts and trades for does not help.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah the goodwin plan was also a bad plan. guy is hurt all the time and hadn’t been good since 2017. 

It wasn't JMatt bad but it wasn't adequate.  

12 minutes ago, wtfcares said:

Yes contrary to popular belief we do need to invest in the defense. In fact they really should have done even more than just those 2 given how little they’ve invested on it past few years in the draft and how old they’re getting. We can’t just be focusing on offense every offseason and expect to improve. 

Even though its an offense led league? Even though our WR room is a mess and relies on 2 guys who have had injury issues throughout their careers?

 

12 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

We've focused on defense.  We've focused on offense.  The problem is that everyone Howie drafts and trades for does not help.

We haven’t spent more than a 3rd round pick on defense in the last 3 drafts. Nor have they traded for or signed any big name defensive players in years. So no they haven’t focused on defense at all. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Trevor Williams out? Who on earth is going to play opposite Slay? What a freaking mess. 

12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The real question is which of you maniacs is watching Brett Rypein vs Sam Darnold tonight, and why do you hate yourself?

funsies

10 minutes ago, wtfcares said:

Yes contrary to popular belief we do need to invest in the defense. In fact they really should have done even more than just those 2 given how little they’ve invested on it past few years in the draft and how old they’re getting. We can’t just be focusing on offense every offseason and expect to improve. 

There's some truth to this.  In 2017, the team used 3 top 100 picks on defensive players.  They haven't done so since. 

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

We've focused on defense.  We've focused on offense.  The problem is that everyone Howie drafts and trades for does not help.

Perfect example is how the team tried to re-vamp the LB corps through mid to low round draft picks and JAG free agents.  I mean the best player they signed over the last 3 seasons is now playing at high level on another team.  

1 minute ago, wtfcares said:

We haven’t spent more than a 3rd round pick on defense in the last 3 drafts. Nor have they traded for or signed any big name defensive players in years. So no they haven’t focused on defense at all. 

You mean other than Slay and Hargrave this year? You mean other than Barnett and Jones in the draft? You mean besides giving Cox and BG big contracts? You mean besides bringing in McLeod in 2016/17? And other than bringing in Jackson last year? And other than bringing in Bradham a few years ago? 

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Even though its an offense led league? Even though our WR room is a mess and relies on 2 guys who have had injury issues throughout their careers?

Yes. Defense still plays 50% of the game. It’s carried our team past 2 years. And we’ve ignored it for years that it’s gonna catch up to us  

Our WR issues are not because it hasn’t been a focus. They’ve drafted and traded for and signed players every year. They just clearly either completely suck at evaluating WRs or the coaches aren’t doing their job to get the best out of them.