2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Trevor Williams out? Who on earth is going to play opposite Slay? What a freaking mess. 

I don't think he's been ruled out yet.  They should move Mills back to CB and go with Epps and McLeod. 

1 minute ago, wtfcares said:

Yes. Defense still plays 50% of the game. It’s carried our team past 2 years. And we’ve ignored it for years that it’s gonna catch up to us  

Our WR issues are not because it hasn’t been a focus. They’ve drafted and traded for and signed players every year. They just clearly either completely suck at evaluating WRs or the coaches aren’t doing their job to get the best out of them. 

We haven't ignored it for years that's complete rubbish. They've invested in offense and in defense. The issue is Howie isn't good at drafting at all and he's brought in skills position guys who have injury issues. 

Just now, NCiggles said:

I don't think he's been ruled out yet.  They should move Mills back to CB and go with Epps and McLeod. 

No sorry I just meant like he was out at practice. I have no idea why Howie went so light at outside corner on the roster. 

I'd like to see Wallace get some more game time. 

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

You mean other than Slay and Hargrave this year? You mean other than Barnett and Jones in the draft? You mean besides giving Cox and BG big contracts? You mean besides bringing in McLeod in 2016/17? And other than bringing in Jackson last year? And other than bringing in Bradham a few years ago? 

Go back and read what I said. I said yes it was necessary to bring in Slay and Hargrave this year because they haven’t invested in it since 2018. Bringing up McLeod signing in 2016 or Bradham in 2017 isn’t the point. That was 3 years ago. They haven’t added any quality young players to the defense in 3 years. Cox and graham are getting old and we can’t continue to rely on them because in a year or two they will become like Jeffrey and DJax and then we will have an expensive mess on the d line. We should have been getting ahead of that. 

Just now, wtfcares said:

Go back and read what I said. I said yes it was necessary to bring in Slay and Hargrave this year because they haven’t invested in it since 2018. Bringing up McLeod signing in 2016 or Bradham in 2017 isn’t the point. That was 3 years ago. They haven’t added any quality young players to the defense in 3 years. Cox and graham are getting old and we can’t continue to rely on them because in a year or two they will become like Jeffrey and DJax and then we will have an expensive mess on the d line. We should have been getting ahead of that. 

So hang on... What about Barnett? What about Jones? Douglas? The issue here is simple. We have invested in both the offense and defense but the issue is Howie. He can't draft and so as a result we continue to rely on ageing guys who we have to pay big money to in order to retain them. Cox and BG on defense. Alshon and DeSean on offense. The issue is talent evaluation. 

3 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

We haven't ignored it for years that's complete rubbish. They've invested in offense and in defense. The issue is Howie isn't good at drafting at all and he's brought in skills position guys who have injury issues. 

No sorry I just meant like he was out at practice. I have no idea why Howie went so light at outside corner on the roster. 

I'd like to see Wallace get some more game time. 

Facts are they haven’t drafted anyone higher than 3rd round since Jones(3 drafts ago) they haven’t traded for anybody. They’ve only brought in Malik Jackson who is also older. To say that they’ve invested equally in offense and defense over the last 3 years is ridiculous. It’s been mainly focused on Offense while ignoring the D and blaming Schwartz for a bunch of late round/undrafted players sucking. 

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

So hang on... What about Barnett? What about Jones? Douglas? The issue here is simple. We have invested in both the offense and defense but the issue is Howie. He can't draft and so as a result we continue to rely on ageing guys who we have to pay big money to in order to retain them. Cox and BG on defense. Alshon and DeSean on offense. The issue is talent evaluation. 

All of these guys were at least 3 drafts ago... I dunno how I can make it clearer for you. THEY HAVENT INVESTED IN THE DEFENSE IN 3 YEARS. 

1 minute ago, wtfcares said:

All of these guys were at least 3 drafts ago... I dunno how I can make it clearer for you. THEY HAVENT INVESTED IN THE DEFENSE IN 3 YEARS. 

But you don't invest in draft picks for the here and now, you invest for the future. So by years 2 and 3 you should be seeing a return on that investment. Once again the issue is down to poor talent evaluation. 

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

But you don't invest in draft picks for the here and now, you invest for the future. So by years 2 and 3 you should be seeing a return on that investment. Once again the issue is down to poor talent evaluation. 

Of course poor talent evaluation is an issue. There’s no denying that. But that doesn’t mean you can ignore the defense for 3 years and then be upset when they finally do spend on a couple of quality players. It can’t just all be about the offense. 

I'm curious when QBR became a creditable stat here?

For years this place argued about it

2 hours ago, downundermike said:

You have to stop listening to Schwartz on talent evaluation.  If he says his choice is pick A, then select pick B.  

42 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The real question is which of you maniacs is watching Brett Rypein vs Sam Darnold tonight, and why do you hate yourself?

 

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Yep.  They really aren't getting (or not getting) anything from anyone that should be considered much of a surprise at the WR position.

Exactly. Wentz playing like crap but the WR situation is what you would expect considering the route they went and relying on unreliable players such as desean and alshon to be healthy. 

39 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

It wasn't JMatt bad but it wasn't adequate.  

Frankly it was still better than tate who was a redundancy of what they had and what they gave up for him. Getting a late 4th round comp pick isn’t the same as having your third 

24 minutes ago, wtfcares said:

Of course poor talent evaluation is an issue. There’s no denying that. But that doesn’t mean you can ignore the defense for 3 years and then be upset when they finally do spend on a couple of quality players. It can’t just all be about the offense. 

But they have invested resources in their defense that is my point. They just haven't invested smartly on either side of the ball. 

 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

3-1 odds this doesn’t work 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

3-1 odds this doesn’t work 

Not a fan of the appointment then?

32 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'm curious when QBR became a creditable stat here?

For years this place argued about it

Fits your agenda = credible

doesn't = not credible

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Not a fan of the appointment then?

No just admire his ability to blow 3 3-1 series leads 

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Fits your agenda = credible

doesn't = not credible

I like total QBR. QB rating is trash. 

41 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

But they have invested resources in their defense that is my point. They just haven't invested smartly on either side of the ball. 

You literally just acknowledged that the last time there was a meaningful investment in defense was 3 years ago. Yes it didn’t work out. But to say that they’ve invested equally between offense and defense the last 3 years is absurd. It’s been mainly all offense until this year. 

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Who the hell said it was all the receivers fault? No we are saying it was a bad plan at at wr. JFC are you incapable of reading or do you just make up narratives to move the fence from the discussion at hand? Literally no one said wentz wasn’t also at fault. Two things can be true: wentz has played like crap and the wrs plan was an awful plan (which you continuously seem to put all your eggs in the basket if an injury prone desean and a wr not playing in 10 months coming off a major lis franc injury)

but please continue to inform all of us about the greatness of desean over the last 3 years. You know missing 40 percent of his games. And when he did play his  per game average of 55 yards, 3.5 receptions and .4 tds. That clearly justifies his unbelievable greatness over a three year span. 

and please don’t give us this crap you aren’t off the wentz wagon. You’ve been off since the night you came on here wasted and went on about foles and bashing wentz. Those are your feelings stick with them. At least Bobby had the balls to stick with his belief and not pander to whom he was talking too. 

Stop your nonsense already.  90% of your posts this year blame everyone and everything but Wentz. 

You typically mention Wentz as an afterthought when anyone who has watched football for more than a month can clearly see the guy cannot play the game of football this year.  

 

And yes, I would take Nick Foles over Wentz this year and so would anyone else who isn't a blind, Wentz apologist.

 

Is that good enough for you?

 

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The real question is which of you maniacs is watching Brett Rypein vs Sam Darnold tonight, and why do you hate yourself?

Rypein was a target on my board as a cheap but serviceable backup. 

 

16 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Stop your nonsense already.  90% of your posts this year blame everyone and everything but Wentz. 

You typically mention Wentz as an afterthought when everyone who has watched football for more than a month can clearly see the guy cannot play the game of football this year.  

 

And yes, I would take Nick Foles over Wentz this year and so would anyone else who isn't a blind, Wentz apologist.

 

Is that good enough for you?

 

Lol and 98-99 percent of yours are strictly bashing wentz followed up with your lame attempt at saying "well I’m still on the wagon though”.  

50 percent of my stuff on here has been about wentz mechanics and footwork being awful and him not being good with his coaches. Other 50 percent is figuring out what else is wrong on this team which you continue and casually ignore.

You are just a dope who makes up narratives cause you change every single discussion into a wentz bashing even if we are talking defense. You find a way. go read what i wrote in the the first three weeks in my good the bad and ugly. I extensively said wentz has issues and playing like crap. additionally I’ve talked about it in here. Heck I’ve even talked about dak, Goff passing him with his play this year and revisiting foles/wentz. So continue to be full of crap

im sorry I’m not a repetitive wentz bash every other post like yourself. Earth to you: there’s more issues than just Carson wentz on this team. you’re the person that keeps thinking it’s the only one. the wide receivers are garbage At the moment, the secondary besides slay and mcleod are garbage, linebackers are garbage and the oline is makeshift. Yet routinely and daily you only discuss Carson wentz like if he was playing well those issues wouldn’t exist. And that receivers only are suffering from wentzitis. Again your ability to just only bash wentz at every turn is amusing when you decided to say someone speaking at 90%. Look in the mirror that’s like 99% of your post and have been  

Please get drunk and go off on a rant about Carson and nick. At least then you have an excuse for your piss poor narratives you bring here and lame "I’m on the wagon still”