1 minute ago, greend said:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WentCa00.htm

 

Completion percentage was at it's worst in the year you said he played his best. He is a good quarterback and plays well and leads the team to victories even when he has a sub par surrounding cast. But leave it to Eagle's fans to twist themselves in knots trying to say that he's been a bad or average quarterback. 3 very bad games this year are concerning but let's not act like he's sucked since 2017. That is false.

I’m not acting like he’s sucked since 2017.

It's funny the criticism of Doug....guys are open, we've seen it in the All 22. It's seemingly glossed over by some in here, maybe because they don't like the way he handles himself in press conferences. Wentz has been THE issue so far this year, not the play designs. I really hope Carson can fix it and get through the yips, but it's not a guarantee. But Doug is not really the problem as far as playcalling, IMO. Yes, he could probably stick with running more to take some pressure off Carson. But at the same time, Scott/Clement kind of suck. Scott is good as a 3rd back, but they really could use a Blount-type back to really hammer away at defenses. I think that's the biggest missing piece of this offense. 

6 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I’m really not the one that needs to be convinced.  I like Wentz and want him to be the QB of this team.  I just want him to be better.  
 

And I don’t like hero ball.  He needs to be a great passer.  In his defense, being a great passer just isn’t an option for him, or anyone else, with the personnel Howie has provided.

But I am not going to encourage or condone bad habits developed while playing said brand of hero ball just because he’s surrounded by crap.

You made the statement that he has gone downhill since 2017. Then you make several statements that contradict each other in this very post. This year 100% Carson isn't Carson. Up until that he pretty much has been and you are the one that needs convinced of that. 

3 minutes ago, greend said:

You made the statement that he has gone downhill since 2017. Then you make several statements that contradict each other in this very post. This year 100% Carson isn't Carson. Up until that he pretty much has been and you are the one that needs convinced of that. 

My entire point is that there is a big difference between being an elite passer orchestrating an elite offense...and doing a great job of doing more with less.

Wentz did one in 2017.  He did the other in 2018, 2019.  

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I’m not acting like he’s sucked since 2017.

Where did I say you did? You did say that he has gone downhill since then (paraphrasing) you also said that you hate "hero ball" which is exactly what he did in 2017. Ran around and made plays.

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Yes, literally, statistically average.

Almost every stat he had was above average. Many within the top 10 or top 5

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

My entire point is that there is a big difference between being an elite passer orchestrating an elite offense...and doing a great job of doing more with less.

Wentz did one in 2017.  He did the other in 2018, 2019.  

With his lowest completion percentage until this year somehow he was an elite passer?  And in the years with higher completion percentage he was less of a elite passer?

 

Nah twisting yourself in knots is what you are doing. 

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

My entire point is that there is a big difference between being an elite passer orchestrating an elite offense...and doing a great job of doing more with less.

Wentz did one in 2017.  He did the other in 2018, 2019.  

Well I think part of that is having an elite offense to orchestrate, which we havent had much of consistently over the last 2 years

Of course.

8 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

 

pretty bad that 3 of the 5 teams in the nfc East are in the top five 

We aren't getting the #1 pick. Giants are going to be giving us the wins when we play them lol

18 minutes ago, RLC said:

Of course.

Impossible. The media told me the NFL has the best process in place to control it.

46 minutes ago, greend said:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WentCa00.htm

 

Completion percentage was at it's worst in the year you said he played his best. He is a good quarterback and plays well and leads the team to victories even when he has a sub par surrounding cast. But leave it to Eagle's fans to twist themselves in knots trying to say that he's been a bad or average quarterback. 3 very bad games this year are concerning but let's not act like he's sucked since 2017. That is false.

Completion percentage is a bad way to defend a QB. His adjusted yards per attempt and yards per completion were career bests in 2017. Basically, he’s been throwing short stuff the past year-plus. His completion percentage should be a lot higher.

30 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I'll never ever ever argue that Wentz misses open guys.

I watched the all 22, with a lot of teams. 

Heres my issue. Wentz gets 10-12 "wide open guys" a game. 7 he completes and the guys standing still(curl route, stop routes, etc) and 5 Wentz misses. (big issue)

Then you go watch Dax, Wilson, Rodgers, Goff they have 25-30 plays where there's a huge window. 99% of the time the wide recieer/tight end are running full speed which causes a huge amount of YAC and YES, even those guys, miss wide open receivers.   But they have double the opportunities to make up for it. 

Wilson missed on a wheel route just like wentz. Then Wilson missed on an out route(noth guys wide the F open) then the 3rd down and long he his a steaking Locket on a slant that resulted in 22 yards. 

 

Whens the last time you seen Doug call 3 WIDE OPEN PLAYS 10 yard down the field IN A ROW 

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Completion percentage is a bad way to defend a QB. His adjusted yards per attempt and yards per completion were career bests in 2017. Basically, he’s been throwing short stuff the past year-plus. His completion percentage should be a lot higher.

Had a fairly healthy Alshon, at least he played every game. Torrey Smith was also durable and had his moments. Nellie played like a damn stud that year. Since then the WR's have been a heaping pile of crap. 

6 minutes ago, EaglesfanfromND said:

Had a fairly healthy Alshon, at least he played every game. Torrey Smith was also durable and had his moments. Nellie played like a damn stud that year. Since then the WR's have been a heaping pile of crap. 

Not disagreeing. Just arguing against completion percentage. 

1 hour ago, Mike31mt said:

27/7 with a 93 QB rating is average?

Hes set franchise and NFL records in that time, lets get real here

First QB in history to throw for over 4,000 yards without a WR getting 500 yards?  C'mon guys -- it's just hero ball.  Nothing special.  I wish you guys would go downstairs and apologize to your washers

Lol Doug loves that competitive advantage 

Never made sense to go away from it. 

Doug was asked if everything was done to shore up the LB position and he said yes lol

Just now, Mike030270 said:

Doug was asked if everything was done to shore up the LB position and he said yes lol

Well, this is the same guy who said Peters played well last week.  His new nickname might be Kaleigh before long

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Doug was asked if everything was done to shore up the LB position and he said yes lol

Should he say, "No, we messed up, our guys suck and we're screwed this year"? 

Just now, TorontoEagle said:

Should he say, "No, we messed up, our guys suck and we're screwed this year"? 

Yes

 

 

42 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Completion percentage is a bad way to defend a QB. His adjusted yards per attempt and yards per completion were career bests in 2017. Basically, he’s been throwing short stuff the past year-plus. His completion percentage should be a lot higher.

I'm not defending a quarter back. I'm defending that in 2017 he was a better pocket passer than what he is now, he isn't in fact in 2017 he played the exact same "hero ball" and was probably a little better at it. Tools (surrounding cast) are much worse now (I'm also not saying that he's been very good as of late).