1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

Because they're not good

Claypool might end up with 40 catches this year, which is probably good for like 115th in the league. If you think 115 is good, thats on you

Higbee is an average tight end. ok above average tight end with really good offensive minded coach

 

You watch the Steelers and your conclusion is that Claypool isn’t good because of counting stats? 

Just now, MediterraneanDiet said:

What is there to talk about?  He looks like a lost soul.  

I said going into this season one of the reasons DAL would be in trouble is that Dak balled out all through 2019 to get a mega contract, didn't get one, and will be demotivated this year.  Instead, Dak came out this season and basically played like "if I'm not getting a mega deal from DAL, my play will dictate I get one from somebody."  Ertz has been completely the opposite -- he was the FIRST guy to give up against WASH -- I could see it.  He put up respectable numbers against the Bengals, but the last two weeks he has accounted for 9 receiving yards and 6 receiving yards.

Wentz was 3-for-12 throwing to Hightower and Ertz yesterday; he was 17-for-23 throwing to everyone else.  I'm still prepared to give the #168 pick with 5 career games some slack.  I'm not prepared to give Ertz very much slack at this point.

3 minutes ago, Utebird said:

It's a doug problem because doug keeps putting Ertz in position where he's matched up with a corner because doug still thinks it works. Obviously it doesn't.

Ertz can't beat nickels consistently anymore I. The pass game and in the run game isn't a good enough blocker to force defenses to account for him with a safety or a LB yet Doug keeps trotting him lining him up out wide in critical situations thinking it's a mismatch and it's not.

Where can he line up present day Ertz and make him a mismatch?

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

This goes back to how quick people yell at Wentz for Missing Sanders the 2 times he was open on a linebacker.

you go look at decent offenses, they run formations and play calls so well that the RB is on the LB numerous times in a game. 

So do we...

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Nah -- we won a Super Bowl with Bradham, Hicks and Kendricks at LB.  I have a hard time believing Howie is telling Schwartz that Gerry, Riley, and Edwards are just as good.  Seems to me like it's the other way around.

Howie acquired Gerry, Riley, and Edwards.

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Doug's offense scored enough to win a game even in todays pass happy league. Defense gave up way too much

The defense in the red zone has been atrocious this year. Like even the Redskins game and the Redskins offense sucks they manage to let the Redskins scored three touchdowns in the red zone. And the one trip they got a stop the Redskins gave it to them because they were up ten with a minute left and just were trying to run out the clock. That’s been a problem since week one. The red zone they are giving up 73% touchdown rate. That is one of the worst in the league. It’s not gone better. It’s gotten worse. the two best offenses they have face the Rams in the Steelers they giving up five touchdowns in six red zone on trips.

I would also add on they are atrocious on third down in critical moments of games. Gio Bernard gets a 42 yard gain, claypool gets a 35 and 32 yard td. Henderson goes for 40. Again two best offenses/qbs we’ve faced are the rams  and Steelers. They were 67% on third down. 

9 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

WRs that run good routes, get open and catch balls are better than fast WRs that don’t. Main focus of Ward in this offense has been quick, short routes.  I would like to know what RB is getting 7+ yards on handoffs.  

https://www.nfl.com/players/miles-sanders/stats/logs/   😁

13 minutes ago, metal said:

yep. that's our #1 LB

How is he still getting snaps?

Reporters need to start badgering Schwartz and Doug on why he's getting snaps over literally anyone else

15 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Eagles schedule after BAL is a 5-week run including NYG, DAL, NYG, and CLE.  It'll be interesting to see where the team sits after that stretch

home BTL

home NYG (Thurs)

home DAL

BYE

away NYG

away CLE

home SEA

away GB

home NO

away ARI

away DAL

home WSH

 

Starting with BTL they have 3 homes games in a row then the bye before taking a bus ride to NNJ.  BTL will be tough, though, it depends which Lamar Jackson shows up.  He's usually good, but when he lays down a clunker it's usually pretty bad.  We should beat the NYG on Thurs, but NFCE games are always difficult.  DAL is a toss up and could turn into a shootout.  At CLE is a toss up as well.  They aren't a pushover this season and have weapons on O.  SEA and NO, even though at home, they both seem to have our number.  GB might have some revenge as motivation for us coming in last year and beating them.  Then 2 away games to ARI, where we usually don't play well, and DAL.  

There's a lot of questions we can't foresee the answers to right now.  Like which Eagles O shows up to these games?  The one that looked good vs the Stillers or the one that looked putrid the first few games?  Will we get any players back off IR and if so how well will they perform?  Enough to make a difference?  Will the D continue to be exposed in the passing game?  Which DL shows up, the one racking up sacks or the one that didn't register a QB hit for the last 3 QTRs?  

The next game vs BTL should show how they bounce back from losing a game they could have won.  They could win 7 more games or they could win only 3-4 more.  The team in its current state is too erratic to tell right now.

 

4 minutes ago, metal said:

I get going to bat for your players and I don't expect him to throw Gerry under the bus, but if we can see it surely he can too. I just have to wonder how long it's going to go on for before they just try something else. I mean this guy has played almost 100% of the snaps this year.

I'm not sure the alternative. Sadly gerry at this point might be the best they got there as taylor and bradley apparently aren't ready singleton Schwartz doesn't think can do better edwards is hurt and isn't really a cover guy any way though one would think maybe with his instincts he may do better.

Gerry has been atrocious. He may be smart and know the defense and where to be but he doesn't have the instincts to be where he should be nor the ability to do anything when he is there. His lack of ability at LB is compounded by his lack of awareness and I stincts and doubly compounded by Schwartz predictable defense that is easily diagnosed by opposing offenses.

Gerry isnt a MLB he's barely an outside one and that he is lined up next to riley who is barely a starter as well is a mistake.

Every game that LJ fort starts is another indictment on howie and Schwartz for letting him go and elevating gerry to green dot LB.

 

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

Not at all. Just putting it into perspective that Claypool(right now) is J.A.G. who tore up the Eagles and probably wont do much more this year

The way he played against the Eagles he looked like the ROY, easily. Realistically he's a kid who didnt know the playbook well and was getting 50% snap count even with the injuries the steelers had

Claypool is not a JAG. You’re exaggerating to try and support your argument. It’s weak and no one is buying it. 

19 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Good to see. At least he is beginning to recognize the problem with sloppy play. Discipline is very much something that can be drilled, it's not some innate ability like athleticism. You can't coach speed, but you can coach your guys not to jump offsides, get too handsy, take dumb personal fouls, etc.

Just now, ManuManu said:

Claypool is not a JAG. You’re exaggerating to try and support your argument. It’s weak and no one is buying it. 

I don't think he's a JAG but the refs and Schwartz definitely helped his game yesterday

Just now, ManuManu said:

Claypool is not a JAG. You’re exaggerating to try and support your argument. It’s weak and no one is buying it. 

Yup.  LOTS of people in here had identified Claypool as a desired prospect for the Eagles, but knew he'd be drafted somewhere between #33 and early forties.

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I said going into this season one of the reasons DAL would be in trouble is that Dak balled out all through 2019 to get a mega contract, didn't get one, and will be demotivated this year.  Instead, Dak came out this season and basically played like "if I'm not getting a mega deal from DAL, my play will dictate I get one from somebody."  Ertz has been completely the opposite -- he was the FIRST guy to give up against WASH -- I could see it.  He put up respectable numbers against the Bengals, but the last two weeks he has accounted for 9 receiving yards and 6 receiving yards.

Wentz was 3-for-12 throwing to Hightower and Ertz yesterday; he was 17-for-23 throwing to everyone else.  I'm still prepared to give the #168 pick with 5 career games some slack.  I'm not prepared to give Ertz very much slack at this point.

The thing with ertz is feels like his body language on the field just doesn’t look the same. I know that something that’s subjective but when you watch him on the all 22 when it comes out, he just doesn’t look like he’s playing the game like he did in the past years. either trying to stay healthy so he doesn’t miss out on his next contract or he’s just not in to playing for the Eagles based off what’s happening with his contract. He just doesn’t look mentally ready to play football.

As much as I like Zach Ertz, it might be better for the Eagles at the trade deadline to deal him somewhere that will give him his contract (Not likely getting what he thinks). At this point I think that relationship has deteriorated and it’s affecting his play on the field

Just now, Mike030270 said:

I don't think he's a JAG but the refs and Schwartz definitely helped his game yesterday

Did they? I'm not sure about that. He was lined up against Slay for a lot of the game. 

29 points on the road against a top defense with receivers named Fulgham, Ward and Hightower. Four backup OL played a majority of the game.

Doug hit them with a perfectly called/time draw that Sanders housed. He routinely schemed Fulgham open. Ward’s touchdown was a perfect call against that defense/alignment. 

And we’re arguing about Doug’s scheme. 

The only real complaints should he his decision to kick the FG and to not call the TO with Gerry lined up over Claypool. That’s the list. 

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Yup.  LOTS of people in here had identified Claypool as a desired prospect for the Eagles, but knew he'd be drafted somewhere between #33 and early forties.

Yeah I wanted him bad.   Just so athletic with really good hands.  Was hoping we'd trade back.and take him late first early 2nd.

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

Ok buddy. We can circle back. Obviously I know nothing about the Steelers, nothing about Claypool(even though i like the kid). 

Eagles made him look like Jerry Rice

Eagles fan think's he's a beast and probably going to win ROY

Realistically he's a good 5th...maybe 6th option with the steelers this year

That says more about the Steelers than it does Claypool. 

6 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

Howie acquired Gerry, Riley, and Edwards.

Do you think he does so without asking the defensive coaches if they see them as a prospect?  There is a scouting department who told Howie to put Gerry on their draft board in the 5th round.  They obviously also had Riley on their draft board if they picked him up.  The coaches also have to coach these guys up.  There's a lot of blame to go around.

Just now, ManuManu said:

The only real complaints should he his decision to kick the FG and to not call the TO with Gerry lined up over Claypool. That’s the list. 

Well and even that I think is harsh on the FG. I mean it had the length or thereabouts. It was just slightly wide. It was a tricky call and I think one that could do either way. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

29 points on the road against a top defense with receivers named Fulgham, Ward and Hightower. Four backup OL played a majority of the game.

Doug hit them with a perfectly called/time draw that Sanders housed. He routinely schemed Fulgham open. Ward’s touchdown was a perfect call against that defense/alignment. 

And we’re arguing about Doug’s scheme. 

The only real complaints should he his decision to kick the FG and to not call the TO with Gerry lined up over Claypool. That’s the list. 

I would add third down defense and red zone defense to the list. I’d also add eagles increasing inability to fall for misdirection and trick plays. Last two weeks alone they’ve given up a 58 and 38 yard run. 

I know this has been posted, but this really needs to be seen by all.  This dude was a safety in college, was supposedly a good coverage safety.

If you target him this year, it is a completion 100% of the time.  He should not see the field again, EVER.

 

Berman and Wulf went after Howie in their latest BwF pod. Berman surprisingly, he's a pro's pro, usually never lets emotion get involved. He wasn't "emotional" per se, he didn't get angry or start shouting, but he was very critical of their offseason approach at WR. The BwF guys have really soured on Howie lately. As have BLG, Kempski, Reuben Frank, among others.

It really feels like that wall of defense for him has totally crumbled and now the critics outnumber the people who think he's still a great GM.

13 minutes ago, Utebird said:

It's a doug problem because doug keeps putting Ertz in position where he's matched up with a corner because doug still thinks it works. Obviously it doesn't.

Ertz can't beat nickels consistently anymore I. The pass game and in the run game isn't a good enough blocker to force defenses to account for him with a safety or a LB yet Doug keeps trotting him lining him up out wide in critical situations thinking it's a mismatch and it's not.

That's not how it works. You can't just choose who the defense lines up across from your players. You can move them around and try to dictate match-ups in certain cases, but ultimately, the defense decides who gets assigned to your players. It's literally the primary consideration when a DC sits down to start game-planning for the week,

14 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Where can he line up present day Ertz and make him a mismatch?

So do we...

And we actually saw him line up in situations (e.g. tight, wing, backfield, etc) where he might draw a LB or S. 

It's not like Doug is splitting him out wide every play and then shocked when he keeps drawing a corner in coverage.