Just now, Arsenal79 said:

No, but elite QB's like Wilson definitely aren't the WORST QB in the league at any point, regardless of the talent around them.  Unlike your binky Carson this year.

And you know that Wilson already won 1 SB, went to another, and makes his team a contender virtually every year.

Don't try to defend Wentz with straw man arguments.  It doesn't fool anyone.

Childish response. 

4 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

If we subbed in half the starting qb's in the league instead of Carson this year we'd be at least 3-2.  Possibly 4-1.

12 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Wait, what?

Schwartz doesn't make the decision to play rookies on defense?  Who makes it then??

 

I don't know, it's why I put no credence or time into these coach's press conferences. I haven't watched a full one in years. I understand it's the jouranlists' jobs to report on them but you never get anything out of them. The only thing you usually get is injury updates, and you can't even get those with this staff considering they keep everything under wraps like it's Area 51. 

Anyone in the top 15 would have us at least 3-2 right now in place of Wentz, who is the worst QB in the league so far.  Also add guys like Brady, Stafford, Murray, Ryan, Newton, and Rivers.  So over 20.  Perhaps even more than that.

3 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

He won 1 but should have been 2.  His coach robbed him of #2.  Do you want to talk about how many playoff games he won also?  Are you trying to infer that Wilson is not elite but you are implying Carson is?

I'm inferring that this team has had no talent around Carson and you need other talent besides the quarterback to win. You're the guy that insists that elite quartebacks win no matter what.  

BTW his coach didn't throw the game losing int. 

13 minutes ago, Utebird said:

If he doesn't make the decisions whether or not rookies are playing who does?

Unless he's just answering about the contracts then interesting that he says he has  no say in who he wants who gets cut ect 

If he doesn't make those decisions who does.

If howie is responsible for those decisions alone then I'd question the decision making process in Philly.

Next person I'd say would be Doug but why the hell would he be making decisions on defense? Didn't Doug say before that Schwartz has total control over the defense?

9 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

No, RG3 was not intelligent and talented enough upstairs to learn how to quickly read defenses and throw accurately.  Nor was he smart enough to learn how to avoid hits.  You know, the things that actual elite QB's do...

I never said RG3 was elite. I said Skins ruined him

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Give me 3 names

Guessing says mahomes, Wilson and Rodgers.  Maybe lamar who’s not been nearly as prolific as last year. If you see anybody else that’s a bunch of crap based off the fact or wide receiving corpse is depleted and we’re down to one starter on the offensive line

And those are generational type talents. If it was easy to find those type of guys everyone in the league would have one. Is Carson Wentz in those class? Probably not. but that’s not a knock on Carson there’s not many quarterbacks that ever get to that class of player and play at that level consistently.  

4 minutes ago, greend said:

Welll don't look now but we are a playoff contender. Unless this team turns it around there is no quarterback that would win a super bowl with the players on this team. As for Wentz time running out? Maybe for you but I doubt anyone in the eagles f.o. agrees with you.

We are a playoff contender because a team from every division has to make the playoffs.  The mighty NFC Least strikes again.  

 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Guessing says mahomes, Wilson and Rodgers.  Maybe lamar who’s not been nearly as prolific as last year. If you see anybody else that’s a bunch of crap based off the fact or wide receiving corpse is depleted and we’re down to one starter on the offensive line

And those are generational type talents. If it was easy to find those type of guys everyone in the league would have one. Is Carson Wentz in those class? Probably not. but that’s not a knock on Carson there’s not many quarterbacks that ever get to that class of player and play at that level consistently.  

Carson Wentz is the WORST QB in the league this year.  We're not asking for a top 3 guy.  Just not the WORST QB in the league.  But even that is too much to ask for Wentz Washers.

48 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

So do I.  And the start of this season is the final evidence that Wentz is NOT elite.  Show me an elite QB who has been this awful 5 years into his career?

It's unfortunate because after 2017 we thought we had an elite QB for the next 10 years.  Sadly that's not the case so we need to plan accordingly.

 

Name a QB that played better under similar circumstances

Show me a big time QB that did well despite no OL, constant rotation of WRs, one good RB, and a bad defense

And to say he was mediocre Sunday is asinine.  

You guys are being so irrational expecting Wentz to play great when the team is falling apart around him. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Guessing says mahomes, Wilson and Rodgers.  Maybe lamar who’s not been nearly as prolific as last year. If you see anybody else that’s a bunch of crap based off the fact or wide receiving corpse is depleted and we’re down to one starter on the offensive line

And those are generational type talents. If it was easy to find those type of guys everyone in the league would have one. Is Carson Wentz in those class? Probably not. but that’s not a knock on Carson there’s not many quarterbacks that ever get to that class of player and play at that level consistently.  

We don't even know what Mahomes would look like without all of that talent the Chiefs have. I'm jealous. I wish we could steal a few of their scouts

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Give me 3 names

Joe Burrow fitzmagic and tannenhill😒.

All 3 of  those guys beat the Redskins and the bengals.

Wentz was the sole reason they lost to the Washington, He wasn't much better against the bengals.

 

Neither of the 3 above are elite but they've all been better than Carson this year and would have given the eagles a better chance at winning by simply not being turnover machines.

 

 

1 minute ago, Khani1 said:

We are a playoff contender because a team from every division has to make the playoffs.  The mighty NFC Least strikes again.  

So according to you then there is enough talent on all the teams in the nfc least that an elite quarterback would get them into the superbowl?  (I kind of agree on Dallas actually)

2 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Anyone in the top 15 would have us at least 3-2 right now in place of Wentz, who is the worst QB in the league so far.  Also add guys like Brady, Stafford, Murray, Ryan, Newton, and Rivers.  So over 20.  Perhaps even more than that.

Brady, Stafford and Murray are the first 3 names you mentioned, so I will run with that.

With Fulgham and Ward instead of Evans and Godwin would Brady win those games ??  Also, how many starting offensive lineman has Tampa lost ??

With Fulgham and Ward instead of Golladay and Jones would Stafford win those games ??  Also, how many starting offensive lineman has Detroit lost ??

With Fulgham and Ward instead of Hopkins and Fitzgerald would Murray win those games ??  Also, how many starting offensive lineman has Arizona lost ??

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

 

Lol aren't Jets on there 3rd QB in 3 years?

Just now, Mike31mt said:

Name a QB that played better under similar circumstances

Show me a big time QB that did well despite no OL, constant rotation of WRs, one good RB, and a bad defense

And to say he was mediocre Sunday is asinine.  

You guys are being so irrational expecting Wentz to play great when the team is falling apart around him. 

No you guys are being irrational when we just want Wentz to be mediocre and not the WORST QB in the league.  Anyone who has a problem with Wentz being the WORST QB in the league, you apologists claim we want Wentz to play great.

No, just be mediocre instead of the WORST. 

2 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Carson Wentz is the WORST QB in the league this year.  We're not asking for a top 3 guy.  Just not the WORST QB in the league.  But even that is too much to ask for Wentz Washers.

Might have started the season as worst but he's not there anymore.https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Brady, Stafford and Murray are the first 3 names you mentioned, so I will run with that.

With Fulgham and Ward instead of Evans and Godwin would Brady win those games ??  Also, how many starting offensive lineman has Tampa lost ??

With Fulgham and Ward instead of Golladay and Jones would Stafford win those games ??  Also, how many starting offensive lineman has Detroit lost ??

With Fulgham and Ward instead of Hopkins and Fitzgerald would Murray win those games ??  Also, how many starting offensive lineman has Arizona lost ??

You first...

Which QB has made the highest percentage of INACCURATE THROWS to open receivers when not pressured in the entire NFL???

57 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

People were saying Rodgers is done and should retire last year

People were saying Brady is done and should retire last year and within the first few games of this year

While were at it... people are saying Brees looks done and should retire at the end of this year

Wilson has made a career out of putting his team on his shoulders

And Big Ben who people are saying is a shoe-in HOF threw like 7 passes his entire rookie season.  

That team dragged him to success

If Wentz doesn't play great its almost a guarantee that we lose.  What does that tell you?

2 minutes ago, greend said:

Might have started the season as worst but he's not there anymore.https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player 

No, Carson is still the WORST starting QB in the league:

2 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

You first...

Which QB has made the highest percentage of INACCURATE THROWS to open receivers when not pressured in the entire NFL???

Your mom

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Joe Burrow fitzmagic and tannenhill😒.

All 3 of  those guys beat the Redskins and the bengals.

Wentz was the sole reason they lost to the Washington, He wasn't much better against the bengals.

 

Neither of the 3 above are elite but they've all been better than Carson this year and would have given the eagles a better chance at winning by simply not being turnover machines.

 

 

With Fulgham and Ward instead of Higgins and Boyd would Burrow win those games ??  Also, how many starting offensive lineman has Cincy lost ??

With Fulgham and Ward instead of Parker and Williams would Fitz win those games ??  Also, how many starting offensive lineman has Miami lost ??

With Fulgham and Ward instead of Davis and Humphries would Tannehill win those games ??  Also, how many starting offensive lineman has Tennessee lost ??

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

Your mom

Great post brah.  Nice to see you took a break from ballwashing Carson to chime in.

43 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

You apologists seriously think Wentz plays smart and does what he needs to do to avoid hits?  WTF?

We were hoping that Carson was white Russell Wilson, who plays extremely smart and knows how to avoid hits.

Instead he's white RG3 who never learned.

He literally ducked under a free rusher on Sunday and threw a pass to convert 3rd down

He does that 2-3 times per game and you wont acknowledge it.  We have 4 f'ing backups on the OL and the only receiver he currently trusts to run a legit NFL route against and NFL defender was signed last wedk