1 minute ago, Utebird said:

2010 by far.

I know the 2017 group won the Superbowl and I think 2010 group in 2017 could have done the same.

Also Celek was on both teams and in my mind is was a better TE than Ertz. After the eagles drafted Ertz when celek was still productive celek didn't punk out like a little B like ertz has. He took one for the team and became a valuable member of a superbowl team.

I'm done with Ertz thankful for a couple good seasons and a superbowl and he needs to be traded yesterday.

Also agholor was is more athletic than avant but avant wasn't a head case and was a helluva special teamer as well.

Celek was a glorified o-lineman in 2017. Ertz, in my eyes, has always been a slot WR, but a very good slot wr. 
 

Ag had his bad moments but you can’t discredit his value in 2017. 

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I think the CB problem has been a development/scheme issue. The only CB who seemed to really thrive here was Patrick Robinson. 

I would say that seems to be crux of it.  Small sample size thus far, but both Douglas and Jones seem to be playing well for their new teams.  Now, the latter could be that he's finally healthy for the first time in his career.  Should both of them continue to play well for the whole season and then start off solid to strong next season then we can put the nail in the coffin on this theory that we both fail to develop CBs and draft ones who are scheme fits for our D.

 

15 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

He looks like Asante 

those socks makes his legs look even more like tooth picks

11 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

I would say that seems to be crux of it.  Small sample size thus far, but both Douglas and Jones seem to be playing well for their new teams.  Now, the latter could be that he's finally healthy for the first time in his career.  Should both of them continue to play well for the whole season and then start off solid to strong next season then we can put the nail in the coffin on this theory that we both fail to develop CBs and draft ones who are scheme fits for our D.

to me, schwartz is scared ishless of the big play.  he will have his cb's line up 5-10 yards off of the receiver just to make sure big plays do not happen.  he will not let them gamble or potentially use their athleticism to make a play.  which is why he ALWAYS uses sticks defense.  problem is, he then puts a guy like gerry on someone like claypool or puts mills against the fastest guy on the field...  so it's moot.

i don't think any cb will have a lot of success under schwartz.  schwartz has tailored his defense to stop big plays and not to force plays.  this has the doubled edged sword of making the back end guys look worse than they could be as they are more reactionary to a catch, instead of using their instincts to break up a play or get an interception.

27 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Celek was a glorified o-lineman in 2017. Ertz, in my eyes, has always been a slot WR, but a very good slot wr. 
 

Ag had his bad moments but you can’t discredit his value in 2017. 

Yup celek was a glorified o lineman in 2017 and a pretty good one and yes Ertz is a big slot WR.

Agholor was good in 2017 and he is was still a head case.

Riley cooper had one good season and I'd take Avant over him too.

11 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

No he was good here

He played pre season

23 minutes ago, JayEcho said:

to me, schwartz is scared ishless of the big play.  he will have his cb's line up 5-10 yards off of the receiver just to make sure big plays do not happen.  he will not let them gamble or potentially use their athleticism to make a play.  which is why he ALWAYS uses sticks defense.  problem is, he then puts a guy like gerry on someone like claypool or puts mills against the fastest guy on the field...  so it's moot.

i don't think any cb will have a lot of success under schwartz.  schwartz has tailored his defense to stop big plays and not to force plays.  this has the doubled edged sword of making the back end guys look worse than they could be as they are more reactionary to a catch, instead of using their instincts to break up a play or get an interception.

Problem is they have managed to still give up big plays.  Like McLaurin scorching Douglas a couple times in the same game just as an example.  The Stillers totally took advantage of taking what our D was giving them.  They made the change on O to go to quick passes so Ben wouldn't get sacked and we allowed them to do it at will with our CBs playing so far off their WRs.  3rd downs were basically a joke, especially the mid range yardage (4-6 yards) and that's why Ben was 13-13 on 3rd down passes.  Our DBs were so far behind the sticks that all their WRs had to do was run a route to the sticks and catch the ball for a 1st down before our DBs could come up to make a tackle.  Brutally painful to watch.  Flawed scheme which looks even worse due to lack of quality on the back 7.  

 

9 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Meh... not sure he's good enough to make that assertion.  Maybe 'could', but 'should'... that's tricky.  

I think he was most certainly good enough.  He was Peyton's Achilles heel in the playoffs and once again, Norv Turner.  He did a lot despite him.

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

Just sick of someone who brings nothing to the board playing up an absurd racial stereotype 

And was played out years and years ago. He’s like the pirate from dodgeball with how committed he is to this crap. If a guy shows up in a pirate costume on Halloween one year, strange but fine. Living in the costume every day, nutso. 

4 hours ago, Wentz_Era said:

He played pre season

Yep and played extremely well. 

11 hours ago, Westbrook#36 said:

Start the rookies.

Keep Wentz, Mailata, Kelce (if he doesn't retire), Seumalo, Brooks, Johnson, Fulgham, , Hightower, Goedert, Jaegor, Sanders, Hargrave, Malik Jackson, Singleton, Taylor, Slay, McLoed, K'von Wallace.

Everyone else = whatever draft picks you can get.

I'm keeping Cox as much hate as he gets from taters he commands a double team a lot.

10 hours ago, SBorBust said:

Is Jason Kelce the worst snapper of the football in NFL history?

ummmmmmmmmmmm?

8 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

$15M? Ouch

Why did they do this?

7 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Enough horrendous personnel moves have been made on Howie's watch that I'm not sure why anyone cares about an unsubstantiated report on his involvement on game-day actives.  Who cares?

Someone tweet the Eagles depth chart if you want to get all riled up about how awful Howie is.

Like the o-line or the receivers? Both have held up okay with tons of injuries. How about d-line?  In fact without q.b. depth in 2017 we don't win the super bowl. Depth isn't the problem in my book, some of the starters on the defense and offense might be though.

7 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The anointing Greg Ward has gotten in the eyes of some is a sign of exactly how depleted our WR corps really is and has been.  He's, at best, a #5 on other teams.  Here, he's the 2nd best option right now (Fulgham has passed him).  And that's another indictment.  The Eagles' top 2 WRs right now are scrap heap pick ups that no one else wanted.  When Reagor comes back healthy, that might change, but right now Hightower is struggling, Watkins is lost and JJAW is a blocking WR, Riley Cooper style, without the controversy.

#4 and #5 are depth players. That said the should have kept him over hollins and they should definitely keep him over JJAW. 

7 hours ago, jsb235 said:

Wentz missed him twice for easy TDs Sunday. The pass at the end of the half was poorly placed. It should have been thrown much earlier. Instead, Hightower had to slow down to stay in bounds. An earlier throw hits him in stride as he crosses the goal line.

Wentz also screwed up the throw to JJAW. A better throw and he can score or get out of bounds. But he had to slow down and twist to catch it.  He also missed an easy throw to Miles that would have gotten us into field goal range.

I get crapping all over our receivers is the favorite sport here. But none of them have $130 million contracts.

Also, if you want to see how the Hightower pass should have been thrown, here it is.

 

Mmmhmm.  And it was Wentz fault that Hightower cut back inside in the hurry up offense rather than ducking to the sideline, right?  Hightower is struggling.

7 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

He looks like Asante 

Unbelievable, but I guess not really anymore. Schwartz and Howie just need to be done already. For Christ's sake. 

14 hours ago, Arsenal79 said:

There's a difference between "struggling" and being the worst QB in the league and being the most inaccurate when not pressured and receivers are open.

What's pure stupidity is how you and your fellow Wentz ballwashers refuse to assign him blame for his atrocious play 

Wentz is hitting and missing.   He made a lot of excellent throws to Fulgham.the past two games, missing easy throws to Miles over the middle with space for him to run.  

I will fall on the following sword:

Wentz is best out of the pocket.  Accurate, decisive, confident.   We know he can't be rolled out every play, but it does help him find his rhythm, confidence, and most importantly, his mechanics.   Against San Fran he put the Fulgham TD on the money after he had been rolling and moving.  I don't think it is a coincidence.  Move him, get him in a groove.  It's not an uncommon methodology in sports.  In Basketball if a shooter is struggling two things really help: get to the foul line and calling favorite plays.  In hockey some goalies need more shots to feel comfortable.  In baseball with pitchers some need to throw a heavy dies of heaters early to get their arm and wrist ready to snap off curves and sliders.

I think getting Carson moving early helps whereas spending the first half dropping back to the same spot hurts.

 

I wonder if the Bills will play for better draft picks since they got blown out, worse than any Eagles game? Allen was the worst starting QB this week so probably time to move on from him as well. Bills fans are hoping Dolphins/Patriots win the division since they actually have a positive point differential. Sorry bills always next year!

3 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Unbelievable, but I guess not really anymore. Schwartz and Howie just need to be done already. For Christ's sake. 

Howie made the pick, the coaches did the rest.   If you want to get on Howie this is not the one.  I'm guessing the Jags, as bad as they are, have him doing what he does best

One of the NYG beat writers.  Watch this happen and Toohill becomes a productive player.

 

4 hours ago, MediterraneanDiet said:

Howie made the pick, the coaches did the rest.   If you want to get on Howie this is not the one.  I'm guessing the Jags, as bad as they are, have him doing what he does best

Not get on Howie? The guy used a second round pick on a player who tore his achilles 5 weeks prior to the draft. Howie can definitely be gotten on. 

2 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Not get on Howie? The used a second round pick on a player who tore his achilles 5 weeks prior to the draft. Howie can definitely be gotten on. 

So you post about Sidney making plays stating you told us so and then? 

32 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Unbelievable, but I guess not really anymore. Schwartz and Howie just need to be done already. For Christ's sake. 

So Schwartz and Howie injured the guy every freaking year?

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Mmmhmm.  And it was Wentz fault that Hightower cut back inside in the hurry up offense rather than ducking to the sideline, right?  Hightower is struggling.

For some people everything can somehow be proven to be Wentz fault. Defense had a bad game against Pit, but if Wentz doesn't make every throw perfect the loss is on him.