1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Keep reading. There is a tweet that is a direct quote from McLane’s interview. This Infante guy seems to have blown it out of proportion. 

OK. Thanks.

Crying for Toohill? A 7th rd Barwin pick for a guy who was arguably our top 2 or 3 best D players last year?

Give me Curry over a 7th rounder all day. 

I had no idea Toohill had fans here. 🤣

17 minutes ago, PrinceKelby said:

Crying for Toohill? A 7th rd Barwin pick for a guy who was arguably our top 2 or 3 best D players last year?

Give me Curry over a 7th rounder all day. 

I had no idea Toohill had fans here. 🤣

It’s more about keeping a player that has a longer shelf life than one season. It’s not like we’re winning anything of consequence this season.

I suspect he’ll clear waivers though. 

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

It’s more about keeping a player that has a longer shelf life than one season. It’s not like we’re winning anything of consequence this season.

I suspect he’ll clear waivers though. 

You guys might have given up on this season but that doesn't mean the Eagles did. They are still trying to win games this year and get into the playoffs.

48 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I think part of it is a learning curve for the new IR this year as well.  Putting a guy on IR normally means he's done for the year (or nearly so, for 2 guys).  Now, its a 3 week 'DL', like in baseball.  So, they're whole thought process needs to change, and I think at times, they get so wrapped up in the next game, that they lose sight of the bigger picture.  Normally in the NFL, that makes sense, because the IR is basically permanent.  But, not so this year.   So, the thought process needs to be different, and then the moves can be more like chess and less like chinese checkers.

Yea, there definitely is a learning curve for the new IR system.  My fear for the Eagles though is their big picture isn't big enough.  Case in point the Toohill release.  Toohill has done squat this year.  He played 22 snaps and didn't really stand out.  He's a premier athlete though. Teams will take a risk on a guy like that.  To even give another team a shot at claiming him so you can bring back Vinny Curry (who we all love for his SB52 role and is a good dude) at his age coming off a hamstring injury and provides no value heading into the next generation of Eagles football beyond 2020 proves to me that their big picture is 2020 and that's it.  

If I'm the Eagles I'm looking at:

Who on my roster can get back a 4th round pick that so far outside of one game has proven to be a waste. 

Who on this roster has any value to another team and little future with this team?  I'm looking at Maddox, Mills, Ertz, Cox, McCleod, Sudfeld and such.

Which young players do we need on the 53 not only dressing but playing meaningful downs so we know what they bring to the table in 2021 and beyond.  

Will anyone give a 7th for DJack or Alshon?

Hear me out on this one.  How bad is Lane Johnson hurt and what is his value in a trade?  Again, I'm looking big picture, the next 3-5 seasons.  Lane is a curious situation to me.  He's starting to get these nagging injuries but is still a top RT in the league.  He will be 31 next year. I see 2 scenarios that could play out.  Does he have JP shelf life where we get another 8 years out of him or does he start to decline, become injured more and whatnot.  Would a team give a 1st for him?  In this case does the team think that Dillard is still their LT of the future and Mailata can play RT?  I don't want to trade Lane, I'm just playing out scenarios in my head that I think any good GM would do if he is looking at his roster construction not this year but the next 5 years.

So many questions and different directions this team can go.  My gut tells me that the Eagles think they are in a better position than they are and they will be buyers at the trade deadline.  DJack and Alshon take valuable reps away from younger WR and the Eagles sneak in to the playoffs only to get smoked in round 1.

 

 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Notice that Fulgham isn't body catching everything?  He's using his hands... like a real WR.  Most of the rest are just cradling the ball to their chest, and if the ball isn't on their chest, they can't make the catch.... like Hightower on that deep ball in the end zone.  If he attacks the ball with his HANDS, then he might have had a chance to make a difficult catch.  BUT... if he doesn't and tries to bring his chest up to the ball, then he whiffs completely.    Routinely, week in and week out, I see WRs make hands catches and help their QB out quite a bit.  Not every ball is going to be perfectly placed, by any QB.  And when that QB has to move around in the pocket to stay alive, because his OL is struggling to keep him clean, then that's going to make the balls a little less accurate.  Football is the ultimate TEAM sport.   ALL 11 need to do their job for it to work.  If only 5 guys out there are doing their job well, then EVERYONE suffers for it.

Yep, that's the first thing you notice about him.  He attacks the ball. One of the common traits all of these new young stud WR have that are taking the league by storm is the mentality that the ball is theirs and they go get it.  He snacthes it away from the defender.  We haven't had a WR or DB with that mentality in a long time.  

4 minutes ago, greend said:

You guys might have given up on this season but that doesn't mean the Eagles did. They are still trying to win games this year and get into the playoffs.

I understand that. 

I would be willing to trade a lot of guys this year but Lane isn't one of them, yet.  My opinion might change by the end of next season but right now, I am not thinking about trading him.

Imagine having a single linebacker capable of making this play. 

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Yep, that's the first thing you notice about him.  He attacks the ball. One of the common traits all of these new young stud WR have that are taking the league by storm is the mentality that the ball is theirs and they go get it.  He snacthes it away from the defender.  We haven't had a WR or DB with that mentality in a long time.  

I think Greg Ward also attacks the ball.  He does not have the physical tools of others, but he works with what he has and goes and gets it.

If we lose 2 out of the next 3, there is no excuse for not trading Ertz at the trade deadline.

1 minute ago, Khani1 said:

If we lose 2 out of the next 3, there is no excuse for not trading Ertz at the trade deadline.

Why wait ??  And is there a win now team that is a fit ??  Seattle ??

52 minutes ago, justrelax said:

That failure by Hightower is a teachable moment. This is the year for such things, and always was.

Of course it is.  I never suggested that it wasn't.  I said that Hightower is struggling, and that he's not 'there yet'.  I'm not giving up on the kid, merely saying that him being Option #3 right now for this team is not good.   He's not ready for that level of responsibility.

56 minutes ago, justrelax said:

It's McLane grinding his axe. He and Kempski are always trying to stick it to somebody. I wouldn't trust them to shine my shoes, well, maybe my Chuck Taylor high-tops.

I'm curious how many in the blog know what those Chucks look like.  🤣

Just now, downundermike said:

Why wait ??  And is there a win now team that is a fit ??  Seattle ??

I agree.  I would have traded him yesterday.  The Eagles (specifically Howie and Doug) are trying to win as many games this year.  But if we get to 2-5-1, Howie will have no excuse not to trade him.

3 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

I would be willing to trade a lot of guys this year but Lane isn't one of them, yet.  My opinion might change by the end of next season but right now, I am not thinking about trading him.

Oh I'm not suggesting they should actively look to trade Lane Johnson.  What if a team offers a 1st for him though?  

I'm just looking at this team down the road, who has huge salaries, who's aging/injured and whatnot.  The reality is they will probably replace Lane sooner than later.

One thing that stood out to me against the Steelers is that the line wasn't trash.  The Steelers have a ferocious defense especially the front 7.  The run game was terrible but Carson didn't get killed.  5 sacks with 4 backups playing against that defense, I'm OK with that.  Now, can they continue to grow and get better?

Just now, bpac55 said:

Oh I'm not suggesting they should actively look to trade Lane Johnson.  What if a team offers a 1st for him though?  

I'm just looking at this team down the road, who has huge salaries, who's aging/injured and whatnot.  The reality is they will probably replace Lane sooner than later.

One thing that stood out to me against the Steelers is that the line wasn't trash.  The Steelers have a ferocious defense especially the front 7.  The run game was terrible but Carson didn't get killed.  5 sacks with 4 backups playing against that defense, I'm OK with that.  Now, can they continue to grow and get better?

I guess if some terrible team offered a 1st rounder in the top 15, I would have to seriously consider it but I don't see that happening.  We have too many holes on the line to trade him at the moment I guess is what I am saying.  I would like the rest of this year and all of next year to evaluate whether he is in the next "5 year" plan.  If he comes back in a few games and plays through the rest of this year and then comes back next year and plays 15-16 games, I think the answer is yes.  If he is in and out during that time or has a long term injury, we better start making plans for our next RT.

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Oh I'm not suggesting they should actively look to trade Lane Johnson.  What if a team offers a 1st for him though?  

I'm just looking at this team down the road, who has huge salaries, who's aging/injured and whatnot.  The reality is they will probably replace Lane sooner than later.

One thing that stood out to me against the Steelers is that the line wasn't trash.  The Steelers have a ferocious defense especially the front 7.  The run game was terrible but Carson didn't get killed.  5 sacks with 4 backups playing against that defense, I'm OK with that.  Now, can they continue to grow and get better?

Lane's contract makes him untradeable this year.  We go from 17 million under the cap to 11 million over the cap if we trade him if I a reading OTC correctly.

DJax being able to play some snaps this week would be huge. 

12 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Yea, there definitely is a learning curve for the new IR system.  My fear for the Eagles though is their big picture isn't big enough.  Case in point the Toohill release.  Toohill has done squat this year.  He played 22 snaps and didn't really stand out.  He's a premier athlete though. Teams will take a risk on a guy like that.  To even give another team a shot at claiming him so you can bring back Vinny Curry (who we all love for his SB52 role and is a good dude) at his age coming off a hamstring injury and provides no value heading into the next generation of Eagles football beyond 2020 proves to me that their big picture is 2020 and that's it.  

If I'm the Eagles I'm looking at:

Who on my roster can get back a 4th round pick that so far outside of one game has proven to be a waste. 

Who on this roster has any value to another team and little future with this team?  I'm looking at Maddox, Mills, Ertz, Cox, McCleod, Sudfeld and such.

Which young players do we need on the 53 not only dressing but playing meaningful downs so we know what they bring to the table in 2021 and beyond.  

Will anyone give a 7th for DJack or Alshon?

Hear me out on this one.  How bad is Lane Johnson hurt and what is his value in a trade?  Again, I'm looking big picture, the next 3-5 seasons.  Lane is a curious situation to me.  He's starting to get these nagging injuries but is still a top RT in the league.  He will be 31 next year. I see 2 scenarios that could play out.  Does he have JP shelf life where we get another 8 years out of him or does he start to decline, become injured more and whatnot.  Would a team give a 1st for him?  In this case does the team think that Dillard is still their LT of the future and Mailata can play RT?  I don't want to trade Lane, I'm just playing out scenarios in my head that I think any good GM would do if he is looking at his roster construction not this year but the next 5 years.

So many questions and different directions this team can go.  My gut tells me that the Eagles think they are in a better position than they are and they will be buyers at the trade deadline.  DJack and Alshon take valuable reps away from younger WR and the Eagles sneak in to the playoffs only to get smoked in round 1.

 

 

I will disagree with you on Cox having no value on this team.  He's a proven leader on the defense, and they need that out there on the field, especially with no voice of leadership from the LB, and having lost the voice in the secondary.

 

I hear you on Johnson... that's a tough one.  BUT... if Dillard is what they thought he was, and Mailata can flip to RT (he took a lot of snaps there in the Preseason before the 2019 season), then maybe that's a tough move to make, but a necessary one.  It's likely to ruffle some feathers both in the fanbase and the locker room, but... its the kind of move that teams that want to stay ahead of the curve make, and the kind of move teams that fall behind fail to make. The question is, are the Eagles prepared for such a move with Dillard and Mailata?  I don't know.   Is Driscoll the future at RT?   The next few weeks will show a lot for him too.   And the injury to Dillard this year and the unwillingness to move on from Peters last year loom large in creating the uncertainty for the future around two of the most important positions on the team... the OTs.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

DJax being able to play some snaps this week would be huge. 

I think we have a better chance of the stimulus package passing this week.

Just now, Khani1 said:

I guess if some terrible team offered a 1st rounder in the top 15, I would have to seriously consider it but I don't see that happening.  We have too many holes on the line to trade him at the moment I guess is what I am saying.  I would like the rest of this year and all of next year to evaluate whether he is in the next "5 year" plan.  If he comes back in a few games and plays through the rest of this year and then comes back next year and plays 15-16 games, I think the answer is yes.  If he is in and out during that time or has a long term injury, we better start making plans for our next RT.

I hope he is in the 5 year plan.  I also hope the Eagles already have their mind on who the next RT could be.  Case in point look at Dillard.  They thought they had their new LT and it's going to be 3 seasons before we even know.  Half of that is just bad luck but the other half is the Eagles had a 37 year old JP with no replacement plan until it was too late.  They need to learn from that and do the opposite with Lane.  Heck they drafted a potential replacement for their franchise QB in the 2nd round but haven't invested in the O-line higher than the 4th round in how many drafts now?  They have been completely reckless with their draft picks.  Ignoring positions all together in some.  It's great to find UDFA or 7th round gems but you can't build your team with that.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

I hope he is in the 5 year plan.  I also hope the Eagles already have their mind on who the next RT could be.  Case in point look at Dillard.  They thought they had their new LT and it's going to be 3 seasons before we even know.  Half of that is just bad luck but the other half is the Eagles had a 37 year old JP with no replacement plan until it was too late.  They need to learn from that and do the opposite with Lane.  Heck they drafted a potential replacement for their franchise QB in the 2nd round but haven't invested in the O-line higher than the 4th round in how many drafts now?  They have been completely reckless with their draft picks.  Ignoring positions all together in some.  It's great to find UDFA or 7th round gems but you can't build your team with that.

100% agreed.  I do not want the Eagles to trade Lane.  When healthy, he is probably the best RT in the league.  As you mentioned, hopefully he goes the JP route (well at least JP until he was 35 years old).

Does anyone have the time frame of when Goedert is expected back?

9 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Oh I'm not suggesting they should actively look to trade Lane Johnson.  What if a team offers a 1st for him though?  

I'm just looking at this team down the road, who has huge salaries, who's aging/injured and whatnot.  The reality is they will probably replace Lane sooner than later.

One thing that stood out to me against the Steelers is that the line wasn't trash.  The Steelers have a ferocious defense especially the front 7.  The run game was terrible but Carson didn't get killed.  5 sacks with 4 backups playing against that defense, I'm OK with that.  Now, can they continue to grow and get better?

Absolutely.   The RG position is the weakest link.   Driscoll had his share of rough snaps.  A couple times Mailata got beat with the speed of Dupree.  But, by and large, PASS protecting, they did very well (grading on a curve here).  The run game is another story altogether.  Other than the perfect call at the perfect time with that draw to Sanders (and a great block by Kelce)... there was ZERO running game.  Not a minimal running, literally ZERO.   Sanders had 10 other carries for 6 yards. Scott was 1 for 3.  Wentz had 4 for 11.

 

But, the Steelers are REALLY good against the run, so that was to be expected to an extent.  But, only 20 yards on 15 carries is abysmal.