7 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Why have Frank Reich's offenses been so mediocre in Indianapolis? 

Did they score 40 points recently?

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

and I just asked you to pick a stat

YPG this year 28th  last year - 15th. 2018 - 14th - 2017  6th... hmm wonder what changed

PPG - this year 24th - last year 13th 2018 - 18th - 2017 3rd... hmmm wonder what changed. 

Doug's a .500 coach who got lightning in a bottle. End of story

Never Doug's fault. Dudes Teflon 

I don't think doug is an especially good play caller not do I think he is a master game planner. I think his best attribute is as a communicator and his emotional intelligence with his players coaches and organization. I'm not sure why he can't have an OC, even Reid gave guys like pederson Nagy and bienemy play calling duties. I just don't see the benefit of the head coach calling the plays even if that coach is an offensive mastermind. The best coaches are those that can delegate responsibility  bilichick doesn't call O or D he has a DC and an OC and let's them do their jobs, and why is it head coaches will call offensive plays but you rarely see a head coach take on the role of DC. Tomlin has an OC and DC. Reid an OC and a DC. Carrol an OC and a DC. Yet Pederson is HC and OC and has 15 Offensive assistants where none of them have a defined role. Why not let Duce call plays?  Or one of those 15 Offensive assistants one has call plays. While Reich didn't call plays Doug said Frank and he would come up with game plan.

Now apparently it's a group effort where 15 different guys have input??? That seems like a lot of noise. 

I think eagles need to streamline the process get an OC let him and doug come up with game plan and let the OC call plays and let the coach coach the team 

I'm constantly seeing beichick during games gathering up a group on offense or defense and coaching them up while the OC and DC do their jobs. Pederson has zero time to step back and look at things because he's trying to do 50 things at the same time.

I'd love to see Duce call plays if he fails well it's not like it could be worse than it is now right?

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

At the end of the day, theres 3 type of people here...

1) blame the coach for 99% of the problems(me)

2) Blames everyone equally(which I dont get)

3) Gives Doug immunity b/c he got us a superbowl and everyone else is to blame. 

 

4) Everyone plays a hand in it to some degree, but putting 99 percent on one particular person is really stupid. (Me)

38 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Interesting.  I hope I'm never the person who is sufficiently happy with 1-3-1 level performance, in football or otherwise, that I criticize others for critiquing it.

Who's sufficiently happy? But according to you, there's no hope of turning things around, and basically 90 percent of our roster sucks. Cool. 

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

More recently then Doug's team. O, also has better numbers than dougs team, but you keep ignoring me when I throw fact after fact in your face. 

What joy do you get from watching Eagles games/following the team? Maybe take a break until Doug moves on? 

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

My guess, having your All Pro QB randomly quit has a lot to do with it. AND, in Reich's first year with Luck, his numbers were a hell of a lot better than Dougs

And, I'm sure they're better thus far this year. 

I agree missing talent at key positions impacts the play of the  offense.  Indy, however, is offensively mediocre this year but their defense has been very good.  Why do you think Indy is bad this seas   In 2018 under Luck, they weren't as good as the Eagles in 2017.  Indy had Luck, Hilton, Ebron, Mack and Hines healthy throughout the season as well.  Arguably better starters than the Eagles in 2017  but still not as good as the Eagles in 2017.  

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

 

First off lane is one of my favorite players on this team. But secondly this all falls on Lane. He should’ve done the surgery back in like February. He does it then he has enough time to see what’s going on with his ankle afterwords and heal up and this is likely not a problem right now. I am hundred percent agree with tra Thomas when he says he needed to just do it back in jan/feb. Maybe Lane has the surgery in February and he still having the same problem but at least then you would’ve said well he did it at the right time and he had enough time to recover maybe this is just a bigger issue. But doing it in August he was likely to miss some games, still rush back too soon and not have it completely heal this season unless he missed multiple weeks of the season. 

Folks, Fulgham looks to be the real deal....the kid was open all-game-long....

 

 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

First off lane is one of my favorite players on this team. But secondly this all falls on Lane. He should’ve done the surgery back in like February. He does it then he has enough time to see what’s going on with his ankle afterwords and heal up and this is likely not a problem right now. I am hundred percent agree with tra Thomas when he says he needed to just do it back in jan/feb. Maybe Lane has the surgery in February and he still having the same problem but at least then you would’ve said well he did it at the right time and he had enough time to recover maybe this is just a bigger issue. But doing it in August he was likely to miss some games, still rush back too soon and not have it completely heal this season unless he missed multiple weeks of the season. 

Well a lot of places were not scheduling surgeries from March to about May/June.  So that may have played a role in the delay.  

14 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Lol they should have replied with "Well then why don't you use him more"

That would’ve been classic.  

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

First off lane is one of my favorite players on this team. But secondly this all falls on Lane. He should’ve done the surgery back in like February. He does it then he has enough time to see what’s going on with his ankle afterwords and heal up and this is likely not a problem right now. I am hundred percent agree with tra Thomas when he says he needed to just do it back in jan/feb. Maybe Lane has the surgery in February and he still having the same problem but at least then you would’ve said well he did it at the right time and he had enough time to recover maybe this is just a bigger issue. But doing it in August he was likely to miss some games, still rush back too soon and not have it completely heal this season unless he missed multiple weeks of the season. 

It depends if surgery was ever offered to him. He only had it in August because he reaggravated it in TC. If the Dr's said he's fine and he felt fine during the offseason and working out, its hard to fault him here for it.

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Folks, Fulgham looks to be the real deal....the kid was open all-game-long....

 

 

Stupid Doug. 

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Folks, Fulgham looks to be the real deal....the kid was open all-game-long....

 

 

Wait I thought Doug can't get guys open? Or that Fulgham is only a contested catch guy which isn't sustainable? 

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

Looks like Fulgham active, Hightower inactive by that response.  The real question for me is who would be higher on the depth chart between Hightower and JJAW?  

If Quez is healthy, time for him to get some reps maybe and see what he can do.  I don't want a 3 snap a game Jackson or a super slow and injury prone Alshon out there anymore.

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Folks, Fulgham looks to be the real deal....the kid was open all-game-long....

 

 

I guess this was the play Vilma was talking about. Talk about long developing though. 

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

Folks, Fulgham looks to be the real deal....the kid was open all-game-long....

 

 

What is Driscoll doing on that play? He just seemed to let Tuitt go instead of staying with the double-team.  If he stays with the double-team, it's a likely TD.  

3 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'm not complaining about his selection, but he's not there yet.  He's likely swimming in his own head right now to a certain extent.  That's the product of the limited offseason, at least in part.  And he's being called upon a ton as a 5th round pick, because the WR room is so injured and bare right now.  But, that's kind of what my point was.  They gave a big contract to an oft injured Jeffery, and then restructured it to lock themselves into needing to keep him around this year.  Two strikes there.  Desean was a bad trade.  It was an attempt to get the 'quick fix' for the speed guy, and he was one of the best ever at that.  But, the emphasis there is on the 'was'.  He's now 'oft-injured' and expensive, as they also gave him an extension and more money, tying their hands with him as well this year.  Two more strikes there.  And those two moves together eliminated their options when it came to bringing in a FA WR in a down year on the market, like Robby Anderson.  He was the guy that they were actually interested in getting (according to reports) and was a younger, less injured option than either Jeffery or Desean, but they are locked in with them for big money, so Anderson, even at his lower than anticipated cost, became too expensive for this cap strapped team.   ***And this is where people who defend Howie with the we've never had a cap problem are missing boat... we do have a cap problem, because he kicked the can down the road so much with some of these older players that should have never been brought back... After the Super Bowl, they never should have brought back Peters or Sproles... and they both ate valuable roster spots, and cap space.  Just too much holding on to the past with this current GM/ownership.***   They tried to fix the speed WR spots with younger players in the draft in late rounds... Hollins (4th), Gibson (5th)... and missed on them both.  Then they went with the Jeffery replacement in Round 2 with JJAW... and missed there as well.  That's a lot of mistakes at the WR position since the Super Bowl.  And when they are all put together that is why this team is where it is at the WR position now.  Being forced to push a player that might have talent into a role he's not ready for yet with Hightower.  Forced to rely on Ward, and forced to push Fulgham out there immediately when they brought him in.   Frankly, Fulgham might be the only decision that they have gotten 100% right at the WR position since the Super Bowl.  Reagor is an "Incomplete", so he's not measured into this yet.   But, he needs to get healthy and get on the field to help.   Hopefully he can soon.   I truly believe that a trio of Reagor, Fulgham and Ward would actually be 'NFL' caliber at all 3 positions, even if it would likely still be in the bottom 1/3 talent wise.   At least it wouldn't be bottom of the barrel, bad.

Everything you said about this I brought up about two or three weeks ago saying the same thing you did. Almost Verbatim. Additionally I put out every wide receiver corps In the NFL and said how many of these teams would you put the Eagles wide receivers ahead of these other teams. It was like four or five teams in the entire NFL I would say the Eagles had a better wide receiving corps and that’s when desean was healthy still. Like relying on late round rookies or rookies in general to just hit the ground running and look good can go either way. We are seeing some rookies this year and last year do it but then there’s a lot of rookies who are struggling week to week to be consistent probably because we didn’t have a normal off-season and it’s not easy for everyone to jump into the fray and be great. Heck even Justin Jefferson has had struggles this year. Three out of the first five weeks he’s been held to 40 yards or less. He had two outstanding weeks. Rookies are going to have ups and downs that’s part of the game. When you rely on rookies just tend to have growing pains and inconsistency week to week

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Well a lot of places were not scheduling surgeries from March to about May/June.  So that may have played a role in the delay.  

For an NFL player? Don't they have their own team or league surgeon? 

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

congrats on getting someone up that took 5.5 seconds to develop . 

By my count, it took Tuitt 2 seconds to beat Pryor.  

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

That's some ugly stuff by Ertz and hightower. Especially Ertz.

Both of Sanders non catch targets were off target throws by Wentz, one catchable but low and behind and the other off.

Fulgham did more in 1 game then JJAW has done in his career☹️

If Wentz hit the 2 do balls to Hightower we could be talking about 2 WRs with monster breakout games this week.

3rd one is a wash between Hightower misjudgement, and Wentz pushing it out of the back of the end zone. 

But the other 2 were completely on Wentz. Could been 4 receptions on 6 targets, and well over 100 yards.  

5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

For an NFL player? Don't they have their own team or league surgeon? 

They don't have their own hospitals.

 

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

For an NFL player? Don't they have their own team or league surgeon? 

Team doctors are usually orthopedic surgeons that have an existing practice.  A lot of these practices stopped elective surgeries from March through May.  

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It depends if surgery was ever offered to him. He only had it in August because he reaggravated it in TC. If the Dr's said he's fine and he felt fine during the offseason and working out, its hard to fault him here for it.

That would be true.  However there is this also chance that it was an issue where he just didn’t want to have the surgery. This has been a problem for over a year. Based off what they did in that surgery and what was reported this was an issue that was going to say around with him until he had that thing cleaned out. The fact that he had the surgery and then try to rush back was just plain stupid. You had the surgery in August give it the ample amount of time to heal otherwise you’re gonna wind up hurting it once again and taking your self out of the lineup even longer. Going based off what Caplan and mosher alluded to wanted to avoid having the surgery and thought that the months off would make the difference.

Just realized we play 2 games next week. Possible record outcomes: 

1-5-1     2 L’s

2-4-1    Split

3-3-1    2 W’s

1-3-3    2 Ties

21 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Who's sufficiently happy? But according to you, there's no hope of turning things around, and basically 90 percent of our roster sucks. Cool. 

I never said either one of those things.