It's one game and the reason preseason is important to teams who have made significant personnel changes.

Give them a cpl weeks.

1 minute ago, Original Sin said:

It's one game and the reason preseason is important to teams who have made significant personnel changes.

Give them a cpl weeks.

We don't have a couple weeks.  0-3 means the season is over.

They arent going 0-3

28 minutes ago, greend said:

Okay guys it's 1 game, let's reign it back in a bit. 

No, it's the apocalypse, I tell you. The apocalypse.

Also remember this is covid. These backups didn’t even see preseason snaps. Yesterday was pretty ugly, league wide. 

Just now, Desertbirds said:

No, it's the apocalypse, I tell you. The apocalypse.

You forgot to use all caps.

We should be getting contributions from players in the first three rounds of the draft every year, and we're just not.  Just looking at the draft picks and their contribution to game 1...

2020 - Reagor, Hurts, Taylor - Reagor started and had 1 big catch, Hurts was deactivated, Taylor contributed solely on special teams. (Contribution 1 catch for 55 yards, a muffed punt, a couple of tackles and a special team penalty.)

2019 - Dillard, Sanders, JJAW - Dillard is out for the year, Sanders out for the game and possibly more, JJAW played and had 0 catches.  (Contribution was nothing.)

2018 - Goeddert - Was one of the few bright spots in the game.  (Contribution 8 catches, over 100 yards and a TD.)

2017 - Barnett, Jones, Douglas - Barnett was out for the game with an injury.  Jones and Douglas play for other teams.  (Contribution was nothing.)

If we add in 4th round picks, Maddox and Sweat actually contributed, Wallace was a special teamer, and Hollins and Miller are on other teams.  A 5th round pick, Gerry, started and contributed.

Clearly two areas that are very concerning are drafting and keeping guys healthy.

Just now, Han Solo said:

We should be getting contributions from players in the first three rounds of the draft every year, and we're just not. 

No team gets this.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

It's sad how Doug and the OCs underestimated Skins and then didn't even make any adjustments

Also how Schwartz still had Slay not play to his strength

Wentz wanted to throw deep but the Oline just couldn't block. I'm also thinking he might still be sore since he didn't move around but after 8 sacks it might be more. Doug and the OCs failed him

So what was the point of all of those OCs to help out when the gameplan looked like that

At least Dallas lost too

They replaced the injury prone Lee with the now injury prone Vander Esch

54% to Jackson. So did he do that or were they limiting his use to keep him fresh for the season? I was expecting Peters to not be 100% and Jackson to be 70-90%

Very possible that wasn't even the best front 4 we'll face. Next week we face one the best DTs in the league

Do we know who they plan to replace Kelce with already on the team? I don't know what round you get quality centers from

Seumalo is the center of the future, and I suspect Driscoll is the LG, unless Mailata steps up and beats out Dillard, in which case Dillard would move to LG, though I think they may be thinking of Mailata as the RT. And of course, Prince is the wildcard.

29 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

 

Yet he keeps pulling an AR, leaving it all on Wentz to dig the team out and acting like Wentz is Tom Brady.  Wentz is still young, Doug needs to make it easier on him and not harder. 

He's almost 28, dude. I swear the extreme Wentz apologists make me wanna pull my hair out. This guy is so coddled by many fans and beat writers, and for what? Measurables, press conferences, and three quarters of a superstar season three years ago? He's injury prone, fumble prone, inconsistent, and erratic as a passer. He's made some highlight plays, and I consistently acknowledge that. But come on, man -- at some point, the excuses have to stop.

4 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Cant tell you the last time the Eagles came up with a big  Turn over, or a multi turn over game. 

 

This is what happens when you don't have playmakers at the Linebacker or safety positions.  When your primary defensive ends are older players and your CBs don't have great hands.

I thought the defense played well yesterday.  Continually given short fields, and dealt with several injuries throughout the game.  They covered well, contained well and got some pressure on the quarterback.  At the end of the game the defensive ends were Josh Sweat and Genard Avery (still don't know how he made the team).  The offense put them in many bad positions and changed the momentum of the game.  I couldn't blame the defense at all for yesterday.

Slay looks like an excellent addition, though I fear he is late to the party.  He would have been what this team needed the last two seasons.  Excellent man cover guy.  No Malcolm, no Bradham, who makes the big plays now on the defense?  They will continue to rely on Fletcher and BG, and Malik Jackson was solid yesterday, but there aren't enough new players stepping up.  Credit to Sweat for a nice sack and strip, we will see if he can continue that -- he will have opportunities since it looks like Curry will be out for a while.

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

0-3. nah probably not

1-3, sure looks like it

Yo pumped for the Steelers game tonight? 

3 minutes ago, Han Solo said:

We should be getting contributions from players in the first three rounds of the draft every year, and we're just not.  Just looking at the draft picks and their contribution to game 1...

2020 - Reagor, Hurts, Taylor - Reagor started and had 1 big catch, Hurts was deactivated, Taylor contributed solely on special teams. (Contribution 1 catch for 55 yards, a muffed punt, a couple of tackles and a special team penalty.)

2019 - Dillard, Sanders, JJAW - Dillard is out for the year, Sanders out for the game and possibly more, JJAW played and had 0 catches.  (Contribution was nothing.)

2018 - Goeddert - Was one of the few bright spots in the game.  (Contribution 8 catches, over 100 yards and a TD.)

2017 - Barnett, Jones, Douglas - Barnett was out for the game with an injury.  Jones and Douglas play for other teams.  (Contribution was nothing.)

If we add in 4th round picks, Maddox and Sweat actually contributed, Wallace was a special teamer, and Hollins and Miller are on other teams.  A 5th round pick, Gerry, started and contributed.

Clearly two areas that are very concerning are drafting and keeping guys healthy.

Very much spot on.  As for the first, the track record of recent failure is extensive.  It's time for change. 

For the latter, they are on the 4th medical and training staff, we will see if they can finally get this right.  I don't care anymore that the lie constantly about the injuries, go ahead by all means, just please stop the amount of "soft tissue" injuries, re-occurrence and re-injuries, losing people in pregame warmups, etc.  I don't need smoothies and sports science and secret sauce, just be *league average* and not lead the league every year, would be awesome.

5 minutes ago, RLC said:

No team gets this.

Few get less than what the Eagles have recently.

6 minutes ago, John_C said:

This is what happens when you don't have playmakers at the Linebacker or safety positions.  When your primary defensive ends are older players and your CBs don't have great hands.

I thought the defense played well yesterday.  Continually given short fields, and dealt with several injuries throughout the game.  They covered well, contained well and got some pressure on the quarterback.  At the end of the game the defensive ends were Josh Sweat and Genard Avery (still don't know how he made the team).  The offense put them in many bad positions and changed the momentum of the game.  I couldn't blame the defense at all for yesterday.

Slay looks like an excellent addition, though I fear he is late to the party.  He would have been what this team needed the last two seasons.  Excellent man cover guy.  No Malcolm, no Bradham, who makes the big plays now on the defense?  They will continue to rely on Fletcher and BG, and Malik Jackson was solid yesterday, but there aren't enough new players stepping up.  Credit to Sweat for a nice sack and strip, we will see if he can continue that -- he will have opportunities since it looks like Curry will be out for a while.

We held McLaurin to 5/61, Haskins to a 5.7 YPA, their RBs to 19/63, and got 3 sacks.  I would have gladly taken that before the game began.

WFT never had to cross midfield to score.  Turnovers and fourth downs cost us the game.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Han Solo said:

We should be getting contributions from players in the first three rounds of the draft every year, and we're just not.  Just looking at the draft picks and their contribution to game 1...

2020 - Reagor, Hurts, Taylor - Reagor started and had 1 big catch, Hurts was deactivated, Taylor contributed solely on special teams. (Contribution 1 catch for 55 yards, a muffed punt, a couple of tackles and a special team penalty.)

2019 - Dillard, Sanders, JJAW - Dillard is out for the year, Sanders out for the game and possibly more, JJAW played and had 0 catches.  (Contribution was nothing.)

2018 - Goeddert - Was one of the few bright spots in the game.  (Contribution 8 catches, over 100 yards and a TD.)

2017 - Barnett, Jones, Douglas - Barnett was out for the game with an injury.  Jones and Douglas play for other teams.  (Contribution was nothing.)

If we add in 4th round picks, Maddox and Sweat actually contributed, Wallace was a special teamer, and Hollins and Miller are on other teams.  A 5th round pick, Gerry, started and contributed.

Clearly two areas that are very concerning are drafting and keeping guys healthy.

A little patience, Taylor was drafted as a project with upside, Dillard was injured, it happens. JJAW is the only seemingly "whiff" the last few years and I'd still give him a whole season.

People are overreacting, it's a weird season with no exhibition games, two starting OL down, then Driscoll goes down (who really isn't suited to OT with his short arms), Hargrave and Barnett injured, then Curry and Graham go down.

The back seven probably played as well as we've seen in almost a decade, we have far more speed than we've had in a long time back there, the OLBs and Slay and Maddox.

Malik Jackson looks healthy, if they can get Hargrave back they have a heck of a DT rotation with Ridgeway, and Sweat looks like he's finally starting to live up to his athletic promise.

Reagor had a nice start, but it'll take time to build chemistry, this is where you miss exhibition games, you just can't duplicate game conditions in practice.

Ward is a solid slot WR, he knows how to get open underneath, the kind of player you don't let leave (Amendola? Edelman is a converted college QB).

I'm not panicking until game 4 or 5, this team has plenty of talent if they can get semi-healthy, and the OL should jell as they get game experience, a lot of the problems were communication against inside blitzes, and some poor route running by rookie WRs (who would have thought?). And Pederson, with a 17 point lead, should have been far more conservative - nothing wrong with dink and dunk when you're OL is shaky and you have a lead.

 

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

We held McLaurin to 5/61, Haskins to a 5.7 YPA, and got 3 sacks.  I would have gladly taken that before the game began.

WFT never had to cross midfield to score.  Turnovers and fourth downs cost us the game.

 

 

Agree completely.  You have to sometimes take the good with the bad, but if our QB had just thrown the ball away a bunch of times the Eagles would very likely have won the game.

I find it very hard to fault anything in particular with the defense yesterday.

Week 1 ,weird things happen.

Had you told me Michael Thomas would have 17 yards in receptions...and Kamara 16 yards rushing at home, I say saint lose...but they won ,bucs beat themselves,  as did the birds. 

Its 1 game during a screwed up off season.

34 minutes ago, John_C said:

7.  There isn't enough criticism of "analytics" driven decision making.  Like anything else, the output is only as good as the data.  Data by definition will always have gaps, will always be incomplete and will never correlate 1:1 with a situation.  That is why we need these pesky, fallible, inconsistent, mistake prone, inconvenient things called people to make final decisions.  You have to look at situationally whether it made sense to call timeouts and run a 2-minute drill before the half, versus being happy with a 17-0 lead against a team that couldn't do anything offensively.  Similarly, something has to be looked at with the Eagles "Defer to get 2nd half kickoff, spend 15 minutes at halftime coming up with bad ideas, and immediately go 3 and out getting the ball back to the other team with all momentum" 2nd half strategy that they have carried over from last year.  Doug, being an AR student, should be better in this area as it is something his former mentor was good at -- come out with some adjustments after halftime and get the ball down the field.  We do the opposite -- it is like the other team is anticipating exactly what the Eagles are going to do.  Self scout and fix this, please.  It's brutal.

 

Deferring is almost always the right decision. You avoid teams scoring twice in a row + make sure the offense doesn't not touch the ball for 45 minutes, which can happen. 
In this instance, we got a 3 and out to open the game, then scored on the 1st drive. There are legitimate issues with coaching and situational football, but this one is unfair IMO.

Decent hope?

6 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Yo pumped for the Steelers game tonight? 

He's not trolling.  1-3 is realistic with how we look/how easily we get injured.

12 minutes ago, Han Solo said:

We should be getting contributions from players in the first three rounds of the draft every year, and we're just not.  Just looking at the draft picks and their contribution to game 1...

2020 - Reagor, Hurts, Taylor - Reagor started and had 1 big catch, Hurts was deactivated, Taylor contributed solely on special teams. (Contribution 1 catch for 55 yards, a muffed punt, a couple of tackles and a special team penalty.)

2019 - Dillard, Sanders, JJAW - Dillard is out for the year, Sanders out for the game and possibly more, JJAW played and had 0 catches.  (Contribution was nothing.)

2018 - Goeddert - Was one of the few bright spots in the game.  (Contribution 8 catches, over 100 yards and a TD.)

2017 - Barnett, Jones, Douglas - Barnett was out for the game with an injury.  Jones and Douglas play for other teams.  (Contribution was nothing.)

If we add in 4th round picks, Maddox and Sweat actually contributed, Wallace was a special teamer, and Hollins and Miller are on other teams.  A 5th round pick, Gerry, started and contributed.

Clearly two areas that are very concerning are drafting and keeping guys healthy.

The idea that top draft choices don’t bust is a myth. The idea that this draft should be graded after one game and no preseason is a myth. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

Decent hope?

So you're telling me there's a chance?

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

My birthday's today, headed out to Del Frisco's. May catch the 2nd half(probably not). Also too old to stay up for the late game tonight too 

Wearing your Steelers jersey out? 

1 minute ago, John_C said:

Agree completely.  You have to sometimes take the good with the bad, but if our QB had just thrown the ball away a bunch of times the Eagles would very likely have won the game.

I find it very hard to fault anything in particular with the defense yesterday.

This is where you could possibly make the argument that a second round LB or DB, instead of Hurts, could have made a play that a Gerry, Riley or Mills couldn't.

1 minute ago, Khani1 said:

He's not trolling.  1-3 is realistic with how we look/how easily we get injured.

Cool. Didn’t even read his post. Just a general question because he’s a Steelers fan