1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

the first couple games when he had most of his starters

What game and what starters?  You mean the 1st half vs. the Skins where he looked great?

Over the last few weeks we've heard how good JJAW is at blocking.  Someone on here had posted his measurables if he were to be a tight end even mentioning that if he gains a few pounds he will be close to the size of Burton.  Maybe that isn't as far fetched as originally thought.  We knock JJAW everyday and deservedly so.  However, give him credit for doing the dirty work for a WR and hustling on running plays.  WR is not his calling in the NFL.  Maybe he could be a successful TE.

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

When you converted 2 2pt conversions passing the ball and one of them was to a wide open JJAW maybe just pass the ball. 

They had done almost nothing to that point running the ball.  Just go with the pass.  Personally, I'd have used Hurts in the backfield with Wentz and gone with the classic 'jump pass'.  Let Hurts take the handoff at the mesh point and then rope-a-dope the ball to Croom for the easy TD.   Or even the old Tackle Eligible play to Mailata, that would have been a great spot to pull it out.  (Though, with Johnson already out, Driscoll out, they might have run out of OTs to use.  Otherwise, put Driscoll at LT inside of Mailata as an eligible receiver, and bam!  Instant folk hero.)

15 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

He should have retired after the game 

https://twitter.com/NFL_Journal/status/1318173243463901190?s=20

Wow just wow.

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Over the last few weeks we've heard how good JJAW is at blocking.  Someone on here had posted his measurables if he were to be a tight end even mentioning that if he gains a few pounds he will be close to the size of Burton.  Maybe that isn't as far fetched as originally thought.  We knock JJAW everyday and deservedly so.  However, give him credit for doing the dirty work for a WR and hustling on running plays.  WR is not his calling in the NFL.  Maybe he could be a successful TE.

Too skinny. He’d get blown up and abused on the line.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

-Still not buying the Hightower hype.  3 drops on 19 targets this year.  He's a very very poor man's Torrey Smith with bad hands.  Smith had straight line speed but horrible elusiveness/quickness.  When Hightower does catch the ball he leaves much to the imagination RAC.

I must have missed it.  Where and when has there been Hightower hype?   There's been Hightower consternation and angst, but hype?   Not seeing it.    But, if Hightower's ceiling is Torry Smith, then I'll take it (especially as a 5th round pick).  There's a role in this offense for that.   But, he's got to stop dropping the ball.  And he just needs to get tougher... he plays way too soft.

Just now, Blazehound said:

Too skinny. He’d get blown up and abused on the line.

Not now obviously but after an offseason of training who knows.

29 minutes ago, CTEagles said:

Wtf...thats not something that I want to hear...we ran out of plays?! How is that possible? Not getting a single OC this year is really proving to be an issue. 

Agreed, but at the same time it kind of makes sense. Not trying to defend, but the roster had a lot of inexperienced guys on the line, at receiver, at TE, etc playing. Can't expect the constant makeshift line and skill positions to have 80 different red zone plays memorized this fast. Just isn't realistic.

Still dumb to say, though.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

That’s a yikes. 

I think re-calling one that worked would have been better than re-calling one that didn't.

6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Over the last few weeks we've heard how good JJAW is at blocking.  Someone on here had posted his measurables if he were to be a tight end even mentioning that if he gains a few pounds he will be close to the size of Burton.  Maybe that isn't as far fetched as originally thought.  We knock JJAW everyday and deservedly so.  However, give him credit for doing the dirty work for a WR and hustling on running plays.  WR is not his calling in the NFL.  Maybe he could be a successful TE.

One of my kids co-workers won $500 on that JJAW touchdown.

I'm sure he's a BIG fan now.

29 minutes ago, CTEagles said:

Wtf...thats not something that I want to hear...we ran out of plays?! How is that possible? Not getting a single OC this year is really proving to be an issue. 

I don't know if it has to do with the OC.  It should not have been an issue.  

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Over the last few weeks we've heard how good JJAW is at blocking.  Someone on here had posted his measurables if he were to be a tight end even mentioning that if he gains a few pounds he will be close to the size of Burton.  Maybe that isn't as far fetched as originally thought.  We knock JJAW everyday and deservedly so.  However, give him credit for doing the dirty work for a WR and hustling on running plays.  WR is not his calling in the NFL.  Maybe he could be a successful TE.

He compares well with Jordan Reed if he were to gain about 10lbs.  https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/jordan-reed vs. https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/jj-arcega-whiteside

11 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They had done almost nothing to that point running the ball.  Just go with the pass.  Personally, I'd have used Hurts in the backfield with Wentz and gone with the classic 'jump pass'.  Let Hurts take the handoff at the mesh point and then rope-a-dope the ball to Croom for the easy TD.   Or even the old Tackle Eligible play to Mailata, that would have been a great spot to pull it out.  (Though, with Johnson already out, Driscoll out, they might have run out of OTs to use.  Otherwise, put Driscoll at LT inside of Mailata as an eligible receiver, and bam!  Instant folk hero.

The bottom line was that it was the most important play of the game.  Not taking a time out to get a solid play called was a mistake. 

3 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

One of my kids co-workers won $500 on that JJAW touchdown.

I'm sure he's a BIG fan now.

Haha

28 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

He should have retired after the game 

https://twitter.com/NFL_Journal/status/1318173243463901190?s=20

And just when we thought Pryor was the worst....enter Jamon Brown!   

43 minutes ago, CTEagles said:

Wtf...thats not something that I want to hear...we ran out of plays?! How is that possible? Not getting a single OC this year is really proving to be an issue. 

That sounds like BS....like he is covering for someone screwing something up.

23 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Yup. That's about as bad as it gets.

Oh... he had about a dozen of those.  Just brutal.  

23 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Look who was on the field. Your playbook shrinks the deeper you go into your reserve tank with players. Sure they have a play book to study but from an execution standpoint you can’t expect them to know everything. 

Yup.  Losing Ertz was big.  How many plays does Jason Croom know?  

21 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

Defenders were crashing down on both Wentz and the RB. The play had no shot.

Furthermore, Doug had a TO in his pocket if he didn’t like the play call or didn’t have enough time to dial up something. Another act of stupidity from Doug. It’s a growing and concerning trend.

Calling that timeout though eliminates any chance if they don't get the onside kick.

10 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Ja'Marr Chase, Reagor, Fulgham would be a pretty sweet WR group

It would be, but all that talent don’t mean crap if the QB is getting hit in 0.5sec on damn near every play. 

18 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

Too skinny. He’d get blown up and abused on the line.

I think he's got no shot as an inline TE, but maybe as a hybrid H-back type. Burton was never really an inline blocker either.

1 minute ago, QuinnWR4 said:

It would be, but all that talent don’t mean crap if the QB is getting hit in 0.5sec on damn near every play. 

This.  Until we fix the mess at OLine, nothing gets drastically better.

Regarding the 2 pt. conversion.  Is it that far fetched to think NFL coaches and players can't draw something up based on what they've seen all game now?  Heck, Hakeem Butler is 6-6.  Throw him a fade, give him a shot to make a play.  Throw it up for Fulgham, he's proved that he can high point the ball.  Anything is better than saying we ran out of plays.  My goodness that's just pathetic to think.  Do you think AR and Mahomes would ever say we ran out of plays so let's hand run a play where the best option is our 5-7 running back who is averaging 2 yards a pop?  

With each passing week DP sounds more and more clueless.  Last week it was the time out.  This week they ran out of plays.  

9 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

The bottom line was that it was the most important play of the game.  Not taking a time out to get a solid play called was a mistake. 

Yeah, I can't really argue against that.  And Manu's point about not getting the TD before the 2 minute warning was also a glaring issue.  Although, honestly, the game was about the 2 point conversion... getting the ball back was a pipe dream.  Onsides kicks just are never an option any more.

29 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Look who was on the field. Your playbook shrinks the deeper you go into your reserve tank with players. Sure they have a play book to study but from an execution standpoint you can’t expect them to know everything. 

yep. thats the obvious explaination. May not expect to hear a coach say he ran out of plays. But theres a perfectly understandable reason why. Look at all the late round rookies in the game. Worse yet players who actually came from other teams like Brown, Croom, Fulgham...

Obviously we dont have our entire playbook at our disposal. 

Just now, bpac55 said:

Regarding the 2 pt. conversion.  Is it that far fetched to think NFL coaches and players can't draw something up based on what they've seen all game now?  Heck, Hakeem Butler is 6-6.  Throw him a fade, give him a shot to make a play.  Throw it up for Fulgham, he's proved that he can high point the ball.  Anything is better than saying we ran out of plays.  My goodness that's just pathetic to think.  Do you think AR and Mahomes would ever say we ran out of plays so let's hand run a play where the best option is our 5-7 running back who is averaging 2 yards a pop?  

With each passing week DP sounds more and more clueless.  Last week it was the time out.  This week they ran out of plays.  

Do you honestly think "he ran out of plays?"  This seems more like Doug taking the heat for someone to me.  

If he's being honest, it's a huge issue.

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Regarding the 2 pt. conversion.  Is it that far fetched to think NFL coaches and players can't draw something up based on what they've seen all game now?  Heck, Hakeem Butler is 6-6.  Throw him a fade, give him a shot to make a play.  Throw it up for Fulgham, he's proved that he can high point the ball.  Anything is better than saying we ran out of plays.  My goodness that's just pathetic to think.  Do you think AR and Mahomes would ever say we ran out of plays so let's hand run a play where the best option is our 5-7 running back who is averaging 2 yards a pop?  

With each passing week DP sounds more and more clueless.  Last week it was the time out.  This week they ran out of plays.  

They nearly ran out of players too.  Its not as far fetched as it sounds.  If you have plays for 3 TEs, you lose Ertz, now you can eliminate all those plays.  Unbalanced lines with an extra OL in there?   Cross them off... they lost their extra tackle.  How many plays does Croom know?    Was Hakeem Butler even dressed for this game?   I get it, its a bad look to say it out loud, and personally, I think recalling one you already used is an option... just make it one that works.   Even going with a simple fade to Fulgham works for me.  Let him go up and try to win the jump ball... but the Eagles don't seem to have a fade in the playbook at all.  Does Wentz work on that with the WRs?   Just doesn't seem like that's a part of the offense.   (That's not a defense, but a reason.  If its not in the offense and Wentz hasn't been working on it with his teammates, how do you make that call in that situation? )

32 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

The option had worked decently the whole game. I do have to go back and rewatch. I was sitting at a red light when the play happened. So I didn’t see it in detail. 

Except for the red zone fumble...  and I am a fan of the play in general - and perhaps if Scott actually let Carson have the ball as the DE was following Scott and there was a gap momentarily - but Carson was fighting Scott to get the ball and well the play just crumbled