23 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Barkley was lights out in the playoffs that year. Hurts had a great super bowl, and so did the defense.

Hurts had more pass yards (the stat many are obsessed with) in the NFCCG vs Commies than he did in the Super Bowl which you acknowledge was great. He had a 110.1 passer rating and also had 3 rush TDs vs his 1 rush TD in the SB. Against the Packers that year in the Wild Card round he also had 2 pass TDs, passer rating 111.4. His first ever playoff game in 2021 for example - with crappy receivers plus rookie Smitty - he had 258 yards, a TD, 2 INT. That's his 2nd highest yardage, more than the SB win. And before you say stats don't matter, they matter when fans complain about low passing numbers.

Just now, SinCityEaglesFan2 said:

who cares ??? WE WON !!!

Was answering the question that was asked dude, calm down

Panthers defensive coordinator needs to be fired. He has no idea who he is playing. He game planned for Drew Bledsoe.

Bad day to be a Caleb Williams hater

1 minute ago, devpool said:

Was answering the question that was asked dude, calm down

You questioned Hurts. That’s not allowed lol

20 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

The entire team being great in that run doesn’t change the fact that he was very good at leading that offense, making timely and accurate throws when needs and sustaining drives. Dude was on another level that entire post season…along with Saquon and the D.

He also has the clutch factor and is a winner. When he makes mistakes, throws an INT, loses a game, he stays focused and hungry and bounces back. He has traits that people used to criticize McNabb for not having. With Hurts you're going to get a lot of games with low passing numbers, rush yards and TDs and sometimes game management. In the SB win, the Chiefs took out Barkley and Hurts responded with a great performance.

Hurts won't ever be a top passer slinging it like many fans want. But some QBs put up fantasy stats and don't win anything. And there are excuses for all these other QBs that they need support around them that's what's holding them back...yet they say Hurts needs talent around him to win. Well, duh. It's a team sport, everyone needs talent around them to win. A QB can't do it by themselves.

Well just based on the way things are going week 1, the biggest offseason question just may be if Arch Manning will demand the Browns pass on him.

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

You questioned Hurts. That’s not allowed lol

When someone says a QB has only played 9 or fewer great games over a 6 year career which includes two SB runs, that's not merely "questioning" him.

T Lawrence right now vs the Browns. - 15 / 20, 220 yards, 4 TDs.

7 minutes ago, devpool said:

He's played single digit GREAT games in his career, it's at least 2 because of the super bowls. Great strawman though!

You and others repeatedly bring up Allen and Burrow when peopem criticize them, that's what creates the Hurts debate. You make it seem like they wouldn't have the same or better success with these teams. No ish, no QB does it on his own. Hurts needs MORE than those QBs because he isn't on their level, and honestly it isn't even close

17 minutes ago, NOTW said:

I agree Allen and Burrow and probably some others would win with this roster. I've never claimed Hurts is above some of these other guys. I simply point out the hypocrisy of arguments. Every QB has flaws. Some of these QBs people make excuses for them but are overly critical of Hurts (he has his flaws and weaknesses too). There have been games I called for Hurts to be benched because he was playing badly and they needed a change in that game. I don't go to any extremes negative or positive, it's just funny the people who are so hypocritical in their comparisions.

You're just saying anything. I'll let you carry on with delusions.

Go Birds.

5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Bad day to be a Caleb Williams hater

Very true.

There will be great days as well. Just have to be patient unfortunately.

A few of those Hail Marys getting picked off should do the trick. I need Ben Johnson to be sad too. If the Bears could also lose every game that would be great.

2 minutes ago, SinCityEaglesFan2 said:

T Lawrence right now vs the Browns. - 15 / 20, 220 yards, 4 TDs.

My fantasy QB. Was en fuego at the end of last year.

16 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Yeah I point out the hypocrisy and how silly it comes across when you do it with other team's QBs. And trashing other teams is also fun, like the overrated Rams. When it's your own team, it gets ridiculous. Btw I have a couple people on ignore who do nothing but over the top unrealistic praise for Hurts, that's annoying too and insufferable to read.

But the offense is not "in shambles" when Hurts misses 1 guy. In games AJ Brown missed, Smitty and Goedert had huge numbers. He also made the playoffs in 2021 with rookie Smitty and garbage otherwise with Quez, Reagor, JJAW and Greg Ward. With those guys he only had 600 yards less than when he had his MVP runner up year that even Hurts biggest critics acknowledge as a good year for him.

Then how come the story is always that Hurts didnt play well because he was missing his top weapon, or his TE? You look back at stats, and forget how the games actually went.

By the way, I never talk about Allen, Herbert, Burrow.... and very rarely see others do it in here either.

Jets are rolling the Titans. Cam Ward looks like a bona fide bust.

Offenses ahead of the defense so far. We'll see if it continues in the Eagles game, usually it's the other way week 1 and offenses start slow.

... and the Browns are finally on the scoreboard

13 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Hurts had more pass yards (the stat many are obsessed with) in the NFCCG vs Commies than he did in the Super Bowl which you acknowledge was great. He had a 110.1 passer rating and also had 3 rush TDs vs his 1 rush TD in the SB. Against the Packers that year in the Wild Card round he also had 2 pass TDs, passer rating 111.4. His first ever playoff game in 2021 for example - with crappy receivers plus rookie Smitty - he had 258 yards, a TD, 2 INT. That's his 2nd highest yardage, more than the SB win. And before you say stats don't matter, they matter when fans complain about low passing numbers.

his QB rating is always high because he does nothing difficult, and most of the bad plays he makes consistently throughout games are things that dont count towards the QB rating stat....

stats dont even begin to tell the story with Hurts.

Baker wet the bed as well. At least he got paid.

So they chose Dalton. Interesting

6 minutes ago, NOTW said:

You're just saying anything. I'll let you carry on with delusions.

Go Birds.

Reading is hard when you're preparing to hate watch the QB of your "favorite" team.

5 minutes ago, NOTW said:

He also has the clutch factor and is a winner. When he makes mistakes, throws an INT, loses a game, he stays focused and hungry and bounces back. He has traits that people used to criticize McNabb for not having. With Hurts you're going to get a lot of games with low passing numbers, rush yards and TDs and sometimes game management. In the SB win, the Chiefs took out Barkley and Hurts responded with a great performance.

Hurts won't ever be a top passer slinging it like many fans want. But some QBs put up fantasy stats and don't win anything. And there are excuses for all these other QBs that they need support around them that's what's holding them back...yet they say Hurts needs talent around him to win. Well, duh. It's a team sport, everyone needs talent around them to win. A QB can't do it by themselves.

It’s not Hurt’s fault that SB team is one of the greatest teams of all time. He’s far from a great QB, but he def wasn’t Trent Dilfer and the Ravens. I’m completely ok with never knowing what Hurts can do with a not optimally talented team.

This whole convo is kind of funny, because Allen and Burrow are fantastic QB’s. Herbie…i get the dislike and slander. Sucks some people can’t contain their hate enough to talk rationally.

McKee is the emergency QB. Unreal that they're committed to this Dalton thing.

Dalton as QB2?? 🤔🤔

"Magically increase” his value. Then flip him for a 6th, based upon what NFL team may need a backup QB after week 1 or week 2?

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Reading is hard when you're preparing to hate watch the QB of your "favorite" team.

Looking forward to seeing what JH can do in the new scheme. We've been waiting for this for a while. Roster is jacked.