October 14, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Didn't it come with one? Just double checked (was rushing to install it before schmoopie got home) and nope. And the instructions said to remove the old doorbell and wire it up. One other possibility I can came up with: I didnt fully charge the battery pack before I set it up (its still charging at the moment) so possibily thats causing the issue (too weak of a charge to support the lighting, the camera, the wifi and the doorbell)
October 14, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, paco said: Just double checked (was rushing to install it before schmoopie got home) and nope. And the instructions said to remove the old doorbell and wire it up. One other possibility I can came up with: I didnt fully charge the battery pack before I set it up (its still charging at the moment) so possibily thats causing the issue (too weak of a charge to support the lighting, the camera, the wifi and the doorbell) That's weird. I thought they all came with them. It's possible your old one isn't up to the task and you need to install a new one. https://ring.com/products/hardwired-transformer
October 14, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: That's weird. I thought they all came with them. It's possible your old one isn't up to the task and you need to install a new one. https://ring.com/products/hardwired-transformer I'll try the charged battery in the AM and if its still off, Ill give that a shot. I think they sell them at lowes.
October 14, 20205 yr Just now, paco said: I'll try the charged battery in the AM and if its still off, Ill give that a shot. I think they sell them at lowes. I'm reading now that the newer models may not need them. Not sure which one you said you had, but you might be right about the battery just needing a good charge.
October 14, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I'm reading now that the newer models may not need them. Not sure which one you said you had, but you might be right about the battery just needing a good charge. Its the 3 plus. Thanks for the tips though. Good food for thought
October 14, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, paco said: Its the 3 plus. Thanks for the tips though. Good food for thought Best bet to confirm is to check the voltage when you get your meter. Most likely it's good enough.
October 14, 20205 yr 8 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Best bet to confirm is to check the voltage when you get your meter. Most likely it's good enough. You may have been on to something. This am I put the battery in and pushed the button. Nothing. Checked the circuit downstairs, still good. Went into the in home chime settings and did the automatic chime detection. Got an error. When I went into advanced chime settings and set it to mechanical and pushed the button to ring, it failed. I'm wondering if the houses old transformer is no longer good. Will test with the multi meter when it arrives
October 14, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, paco said: You may have been on to something. This am I put the battery in and pushed the button. Nothing. Checked the circuit downstairs, still good. Went into the in home chime settings and did the automatic chime detection. Got an error. When I went into advanced chime settings and set it to mechanical and pushed the button to ring, it failed. I'm wondering if the houses old transformer is no longer good. Will test with the multi meter when it arrives How old is the house?
October 14, 20205 yr 17 hours ago, mikemack8 said: Do they come with a wide angle lense, too? Ask your Mom
October 14, 20205 yr Author 15 hours ago, paco said: @Agent23@mr_hunt@rambo @downundermike Ring is here and installed. Now in the instructions they said it doesn't matter which screw you hook each wire up to. However, when I push the button, the chime is a lot slower and a tad softer. We experienced the same thing here when dumb dumb hooked up a new doorbell at our beach condo. Before I take the damn thing down and rewire in case it does matter, did any of you experience this and was it caused by something else? i'm not an electrologist....i just swapped out the old doorbell with the ring doorbell...that was it. it's been a couple years but i remember it being a fairly simple process...even for me.
October 14, 20205 yr 31 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: How old is the house? About 15 years. I'm convinced its a combination of voltage and the ring being set up. When it gave me the lazy ding dong (mom thread), that was before I went through the set up. Now that the ring is set up and controlling the current to the bell via the software\firmware, it's detecting that it doesn't have enough juice and is blocking the electrical flow to the bell to sustain the camera. Just a dumb theory, we'll see.
October 14, 20205 yr 58 minutes ago, paco said: About 15 years. I'm convinced its a combination of voltage and the ring being set up. When it gave me the lazy ding dong (mom thread), that was before I went through the set up. Now that the ring is set up and controlling the current to the bell via the software\firmware, it's detecting that it doesn't have enough juice and is blocking the electrical flow to the bell to sustain the camera. Just a dumb theory, we'll see. Did you check the specs on the rotary girder?
October 14, 20205 yr 18 hours ago, mr_hunt said: I'm trying to be quiet in my tree stand, and funny sheet like this isn't helping 51 minutes ago, paco said: About 15 years. I'm convinced its a combination of voltage and the ring being set up. When it gave me the lazy ding dong (mom thread), that was before I went through the set up. Now that the ring is set up and controlling the current to the bell via the software\firmware, it's detecting that it doesn't have enough juice and is blocking the electrical flow to the bell to sustain the camera. Just a dumb theory, we'll see. Battery shouldn't have anything to do with it, your doorbell is powered from your breaker box. The wire that comes out of your door is coming from the doorbell and has a minimal amount of voltage on one side. When you press the doorbell, it connects the two wires and returns the voltage back to the doorbell and chimes. Best way to check it is to hold both wires by the rubber jacket and touch the bare ends. Door bell should ring instantly. You'll see minor sparks but they're normal and nothing to worry about. As long as you're holding the jacket you won't won't feel anything.
October 14, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, BFit said: I'm trying to be quiet in my tree stand, and funny sheet like this isn't helping Battery shouldn't have anything to do with it, your doorbell is powered from your breaker box. The wire that comes out of your door is coming from the doorbell and has a minimal amount of voltage on one side. When you press the doorbell, it connects the two wires and returns the voltage back to the doorbell and chimes. Best way to check it is to hold both wires by the rubber jacket and touch the bare ends. Door bell should ring instantly. You'll see minor sparks but they're normal and nothing to worry about. As long as you're holding the jacket you won't won't feel anything. What he meant to say was, take both wires and touch them to your tongue at the same time
October 14, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: What he meant to say was, take both wires and touch them to your tongue at the same time Eh, like licking a big 9v but really, if you do get a shock, it wouldn't be much different than a low setting on a dog collar, or one of them old ab trainer belts from years ago
October 14, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, BFit said: Eh, like licking a big 9v but really, if you do get a shock, it wouldn't be much different than a low setting on a dog collar, or one of them old ab trainer belts from years ago Great...now his neighbor's will be subjected to a squatch trying to get a 6 pack with doorbell wires.
October 14, 20205 yr 13 minutes ago, BFit said: I'm trying to be quiet in my tree stand, and funny sheet like this isn't helping Battery shouldn't have anything to do with it, your doorbell is powered from your breaker box. The wire that comes out of your door is coming from the doorbell and has a minimal amount of voltage on one side. When you press the doorbell, it connects the two wires and returns the voltage back to the doorbell and chimes. Best way to check it is to hold both wires by the rubber jacket and touch the bare ends. Door bell should ring instantly. You'll see minor sparks but they're normal and nothing to worry about. As long as you're holding the jacket you won't won't feel anything. I don't think that is true.... When I originally put it in (with battery) and pushed the button, it worked. But then I went through the set up process and made the doorbell "live" (for lack of a better term". It did all its firmware updates and what not. I suspect that once it sets up, it takes control of the circuit and is dictating if it is open or closed electronically within the doorbell itself. Before it was dumb and letting everything flow, which was probably causing the slowed ding dong. The fact that you can turn on and off your internal doorbell from the app speaks to it being an electronic switch, not physical.
October 14, 20205 yr 29 minutes ago, paco said: I don't think that is true.... When I originally put it in (with battery) and pushed the button, it worked. But then I went through the set up process and made the doorbell "live" (for lack of a better term". It did all its firmware updates and what not. I suspect that once it sets up, it takes control of the circuit and is dictating if it is open or closed electronically within the doorbell itself. Before it was dumb and letting everything flow, which was probably causing the slowed ding dong. The fact that you can turn on and off your internal doorbell from the app speaks to it being an electronic switch, not physical. Ahhh, I was just saying how a normal button doorbell works, that way you could trouble shoot if the ring or the actual bell chime was your problem. I also skimmed 70% of this thread while looking for deer in a tree stand, so I may have missed something along the way. What you're saying makes sense though
October 14, 20205 yr Author 1 minute ago, BFit said: Ahhh, I was just saying how a normal button doorbell works, that way you could trouble shoot if the ring or the actual bell chime was your problem. I also skimmed 70% of this thread while looking for deer in a tree stand, so I may have missed something along the way. What you're saying makes sense though i spotted this beauty behind my house yesterday. no antlers so i guess it's a doe
October 14, 20205 yr 51 minutes ago, paco said: I don't think that is true.... When I originally put it in (with battery) and pushed the button, it worked. But then I went through the set up process and made the doorbell "live" (for lack of a better term". It did all its firmware updates and what not. I suspect that once it sets up, it takes control of the circuit and is dictating if it is open or closed electronically within the doorbell itself. Before it was dumb and letting everything flow, which was probably causing the slowed ding dong. The fact that you can turn on and off your internal doorbell from the app speaks to it being an electronic switch, not physical. This is correct. I don't have a Ring but my understanding based on this conversation, is there's internal circuitry to somehow selectively energize the existing chime based on how it's configured via the app settings. So yes, that button is now strictly a digital circuit from a logical sense, in that you can choose not to ring your existing archaic chime and instead replace it with a more pleasant sounding one with the plug-in speaker add-on. Ring is using the voltage from the existing doorbell circuit to basically steal power to keep the unit's battery charged. I had thought there was an additional transformer or relay that needed to be installed elsewhere in your old circuit to prevent the old chime from ringing when power was being stolen (back when I looked into them), but they must've internalized this component now to avoid that step during installation.
October 14, 20205 yr 10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: This is correct. I don't have a Ring but my understanding based on this conversation, is there's internal circuitry to somehow selectively energize the existing chime based on how it's configured via the app settings. So yes, that button is now strictly a digital circuit from a logical sense, in that you can choose not to ring your existing archaic chime and instead replace it with a more pleasant sounding one with the plug-in speaker add-on. Ring is using the voltage from the existing doorbell circuit to basically steal power to keep the unit's battery charged. I had thought there was an additional transformer or relay that needed to be installed elsewhere in your old circuit to prevent the old chime from ringing when power was being stolen (back when I looked into them), but they must've internalized this component now to avoid that step during installation. The ring 2 use to have a physical diode that you had to install if you have a digital doorbell in your home. The ring 3 allows you to set that option in your app. So they are getting more and more dummy proof, making my issue all the more frustrating
October 15, 20205 yr 9 hours ago, paco said: The ring 2 use to have a physical diode that you had to install if you have a digital doorbell in your home. The ring 3 allows you to set that option in your app. So they are getting more and more dummy proof, making my issue all the more frustrating my chime isn't working either. edit...nvm set it to mechanical and it works fine. I'm no longer a dummy like you.
October 15, 20205 yr 10 hours ago, rambo said: my chime isn't working either. edit...nvm set it to mechanical and it works fine. I'm no longer a dummy like you. I'll have you know, mine now "works"* *Doorbell is now ringing. But I can't finish the Final Steps of the setup. On the Chime Connection test it does "Checking your doorbell system.... We're making sure your Ring Doorbell can recieve the power it needs" only to get "Something went wrong" with no additional information. BUT the app recognizes it's hardwired.
October 15, 20205 yr I am leery of all cloud based, app having home security systems. Putting your home security on the Internet. What could go wrong? Give thieves a one stop shop - they just hack the security company's poorly written app or poorly protected servers. I would never use any smart enabled device, especially in security. Ring and all these have been hacked before. I won't use voice commands on my phone, not even for speed dial, because it opens up a can of security worms. I do networks and security for a living. I know how poor network/computer security is from long experience of plugging the holes.
October 15, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Toastrel said: I am leery of all cloud based, app having home security systems. Putting your home security on the Internet. What could go wrong? Give thieves a one stop shop - they just hack the security company's poorly written app or poorly protected servers. I would never use any smart enabled device, especially in security. Ring and all these have been hacked before. I won't use voice commands on my phone, not even for speed dial, because it opens up a can of security worms. I do networks and security for a living. I know how poor network/computer security is from long experience of plugging the holes. This is true, but the key to avoiding this is actually really simple. Aside from the obvious stuff about creating unique secure passwords, using an account email that has not been seen on the pwn lists, and the fact that 2FA is pretty much standard now, there's one dumb "trick" to drop your risk of this happening: You buy signs and stickers of another company's system. That's literally it. Extremely low chance a thief is gonna see a bunch of signs for simplisafe and try to hack your system by trying to log in to Ring or whatever your actual system is.
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