December 2, 20213 yr 4 minutes ago, Gannan said: The truly scary thing is that had the election gone the other way, we almost certainly wouldn't have had a Christmas this year. Best case scenario, we would've had a bread-line Christmas.
December 2, 20213 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: The truly scary thing is that had the election gone the other way, we almost certainly wouldn't have had a Christmas this year. Best case scenario, we would've had a bread-line Christmas. So, Biden isn't responsible for inflation but he is responsible for the economic turnaround as we come out of lockdowns? Epic trolling.
December 2, 20213 yr Just now, Outlaw said: So, Biden isn't responsible for inflation but he is responsible for the economic turnaround as we come out of lockdowns? Epic trolling. I just remember the breadlines during the Trump administration and I think we can all agree, we never want to go back to that again.
December 2, 20213 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: I just remember the breadlines during the Trump administration and I think we can all agree, we never want to go back to that again. I wouldn't know. I was busy chilling in the gulag.
December 2, 20213 yr Just now, Outlaw said: I wouldn't know. I was busy chilling in the gulag. Don't be silly. We never reached gulags, only breadlines and an intense hatred for Christmas and America.
December 2, 20213 yr 14 minutes ago, Outlaw said: So, Biden isn't responsible for inflation but he is responsible for the economic turnaround as we come out of lockdowns? Epic trolling. Seriously.... 36% - the Cult - it may also represent their collective I.Q.
December 2, 20213 yr 24 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I mean, you do understand a troll job is happening, right? Yup. And I also believe you all look like that. Deal with it
December 2, 20213 yr 32 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I mean, you do understand a troll job is happening, right? 46 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: What a shame, didn't see this coming. The lawnmower thing actually broke him.
December 2, 20213 yr 18 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: Seriously.... 36% - the Cult - it may also represent their collective I.Q. Biden 2024!
December 2, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, Ipiggles said: Seriously.... 36% - the Cult - it may also represent their collective I.Q. Coming from someone who follows Dinesh D'Souza on twitter.
December 2, 20213 yr 2 minutes ago, Gannan said: Coming from someone who follows Dinesh D'Souza on twitter.
December 2, 20213 yr On 11/24/2021 at 9:06 AM, JohnSnowsHair said: A year ago there were 310 rigs active in the US, down from ~700 in January 2020. Now there are 563 rigs active. An increase of 81%. Getting oil rigs back online is not like flipping a switch. Not that you care, as your only goal is to make this political. Edit: adding reference: https://rigcount.bakerhughes.com/rig-count-overview/ On 11/24/2021 at 9:08 AM, Ipiggles said: You may wish to know, what impact Biden's reversal of the Trump admins deregulation also had on the OIl industry. But I know that doesn''t fit your narrative. On 11/24/2021 at 9:10 AM, JohnSnowsHair said: Please, "enlighten" me. On 11/24/2021 at 11:44 AM, JohnSnowsHair said: he doesn't actually have anything. because he's "informed" by right wing media that just assures him Biden is evil and Trump was a god. when Biden came in, he issued a moratorium on new leases for drilling. this didn't affect existing leases, many of which were not being utilized yet. so there's not a shortage of drilling options for oil companies. at the same time, rigs had gone from 700 down to around 200 during the pandemic, because demand dropped so hard. we haven't even restored the 700 rigs yet - though we've come a long way back to be at 563. and as we bring more back online, something that Biden has not stood in the way of, supply pressures for oil should ease. this is the actual story. there are definitely some additional components that vikas brought up about private capital being less inclined to fund shale and tight oil extraction, but none of those are related to any Biden policies. but for @Ipiggles facts are not the goal. like his clone Kz and other right-wing partisan hacks here, he already knows the answer he wants: Biden & the liberals are to blame for everything. all that matters is sharing and spinning stories that support that narrative. that's it. On 11/24/2021 at 11:52 AM, JohnSnowsHair said: long term, the Keystone XL pipeline may factor in to supply. but it's worth noting that the oil that Keystone XL would be transporting is rather dirty (look up tar sands oil), and requires significantly more refinement than regular crude. and even without Keystone XL, we're still importing a helluva lot of oil from Canada: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/even-without-keystone-xl-us-set-record-canadian-oil-imports-2021-01-22/ I'm not going to sit here and say that Biden is or has been super friendly to the oil industry. but the reality is that his policy declarations in this regard are limited to a moratorium on new leases, which has already been fought variously in court and he lost. and new leases in the Gulf have just recently been auctioned off, which the Biden administration minimally fought in court but gave up on opposing fairly quickly. all of the above speaks to an administration whose strategy on oil is to signal that it wants to fight oil expansion through EOs and court battles, but ultimately is going to continue to let the oil industry operate more or less under the status quo. this gives them the ability to message to their base that they're fighting for environment protection policies, while not actually getting much in the way of the industry. if you're a dedicated environmentalist, you're pretty pissed at the Biden administration right now because it's been very weak on this, and it's indeed getting dragged by environmental groups. but of course this doesn't change the narrative for right wingers dedicated to ensuring Biden fails regardless. @Ipiggles this would be the exchange, and about where I presume you decide to block me rather than engage on the merits.
December 2, 20213 yr 8 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: @Ipiggles this would be the exchange, and about where I presume you decide to block me rather than engage on the merits. I actually think he blocks and unblocks me depending on how the conversation is going. Yet another EMB puss puss.
December 2, 20213 yr 28 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: @Ipiggles this would be the exchange, and about where I presume you decide to block me rather than engage on the merits. 1st, this may surprise you, but you were on ignore long before this. Also whether you believe it or not, I never opened up any of your retorts here, I moved on. Now onto the discussion. Lots to talk about. 1st it is admittingly complex subject. However, the idea Biden has nothing to do with Oil/Gas prices is just ludicrous. Just like it would be ludicrous to say Trump did not impact the oil and gas industry through deregulation. Now you can debate whether or not it was reckless for the environment to do as much deregualtion, different subject. Here is an article on the subect. Discussing some of what Trump's admin had deregulated and Biden has been working to reverse. 1st article Dated Feb 21st 2021 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/02/biden-trump-environment-climate-crisis Below are some of Trumps Deregulations, These 5 had already been fully reversed in FEBRUARY Opened up areas of Arctic waters and the Bering Sea to oil and gas drilling. [1] Reversed Rescinded an Obama executive order on preparing for climate change impacts using risk management strategies. [1] Reversed Shrunk the size of several national monuments, including the Bears Ear national park in Utah which allowed for drilling there. [1] Reversed Enabled the expansion of offshore drilling. [1] Reversed Approved the building of the Keystone XL pipeline. [1] Reversed These below were already headed to review and some have now been fully reversed Reduced protections to allow drilling in the Bears Ear national park. [1] Directed agency review Made it easier to lease out public lands based on outdated information. [1] Directed agency review Reversed a rule that prevented taking sand from protected areas to replenish other beaches. [1] Directed agency review Reduced protections to allow drilling in the Grand-Staircase-Escalante national monument. [1] Directed agency review Claimed federal ownership of minerals on tribal land. [1] Directed agency review Allowed gas companies to drill in the northeast portion of the National Petroleum Reserve. [1] Directed agency review Moved to open up 13.5 million acres of land to drilling in Western Alaska. [1] Directed agency review Opened up drilling on 9m acres of public land in the west, which are the habitat for greater sage grouse. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] Directed agency review Reduced protections to allow drilling in the Northeast Canyons and Seamounts Marine national monument [1] Directed agency review Authorized oil and gas leasing on the Arctic national wildlife refuge’s coastal plain. [1] Directed agency review Opened the protected Tongass national forest in Alaska to logging and road construction. [1] Directed agency review Some of these have now been fully reversed. This report Dated May 2021 Gives you and idea of where they were with the reversals of Trumps admin - now some of this covers the Oil/Gas industry and the rest is other EPA stuff, but it's in there. https://www.law.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Trump-Rollbacks-Report.pdf Now I may not be the most intelligent guy, but when Trump inacted the deregulation, we became the world's leading producer of oil, fisrt time in my life. And yes I can easily admit a pandemic has contributed to the lack of production currently, but you cannot sit there and tell me that the reversals of deregulations on the industry itself had nothing to do with it as well? What we cannot do, is quantify just how much each decision impacted it. We do know the result when Trump enacted the deregulations, and can only extrapolate from there.
December 2, 20213 yr 34 minutes ago, Boogyman said: I actually think he blocks and unblocks me depending on how the conversation is going. Yet another EMB puss puss. That would be a wrong. But it wont matter what I say, you will make up something anyway.
December 2, 20213 yr 22 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: That would be a wrong. But it wont matter what I say, you will make up something anyway. That part is definitely true
December 2, 20213 yr Say what you want about dementia, but it really seems to help comedic delivery. Good one, Joe!
December 2, 20213 yr my favorite thing about president biden is how good he is at trolling the right...he makes repugs lose their sheet! oh...and his hairy legs!
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