51 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

So you agree with the far leftists now?

Stop getting emotional. 

11 hours ago, NVeagle said:

"Things you can't do by executive order unless you're a dictator. We're a democracy. We need a consensus," Biden said, before going on to sign more executive orders in his first week in office than any other president.

You left out the part where all of the executive orders are undoing the ones from the NSDAP who was in office before him.

 

Just in case anyone was curious, Biden's current approval rating is higher than Trump's at any time during his presidency

 

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/535742-poll-president-bidens-first-approval-of-his-term-at-63-percent

Leftists are gonna love hearing me tell them that it's unconstitutional...

 

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DC Statehood Bill Reintroduced to US Senate

"There’s never been a time when statehood for the District was more likely,” D.C. Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton said

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dc-statehood-bill-reintroduced-to-us-senate/2851454/

 

18 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Leftists are gonna love hearing me tell them that it's unconstitutional...

 

 

Correct. Dems would be better off going for Puerto Rico. 

1 minute ago, Gannan said:

Correct. Dems would be better off going for Puerto Rico. 

No one wants to hear your pragmatism, buddy...

51 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Correct. Dems would be better off going for Puerto Rico. 

Good luck.

7 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Good luck.

If offered do you think PR would want it?  I'm of the opinion it should be offered to the territories but only if the population is interested. 

14 hours ago, NVeagle said:

Even the left is attacking Biden:

#BidenErasedWomen is the hashtag vocal feminist groups such as Women’s Liberation Front (WoLF) are using to urge their members to object to what they view as Biden’s "unprecedented attack on women’s rights and liberty for everybody.”

10 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Good luck.

Well DC statehood is unconstitutional so its basically a non starter. PR is at least theoretically possible. 

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

If offered do you think PR would want it?  I'm of the opinion it should be offered to the territories but only if the population is interested. 

They already voted in favor of statehood.

19 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

If offered do you think PR would want it?  I'm of the opinion it should be offered to the territories but only if the population is interested. 

PR seems to be fairly evenly split between people that want things to stay the way they are, people that want independence and people that want to become a state.  But, yeah, I think statehood won out the last time they voted and maybe even the time before that too.  Not that it actually matters in practice.  We can make them a state whether they want to be one or not.

1 hour ago, pallidrone said:

They already voted in favor of statehood.

53%

1 hour ago, VanHammersly said:

PR seems to be fairly evenly split between people that want things to stay the way they are, people that want independence and people that want to become a state.  But, yeah, I think statehood won out the last time they voted and maybe even the time before that too.  Not that it actually matters in practice.  We can make them a state whether they want to be one or not.

It's been trending down the last couple decades, was over 60% at one point.

3 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

It's been trending down the last couple decades, was over 60% at one point.

The past administration didn't exactly go out of their way to woo you guys either

14 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

The past administration didn't exactly go out of their way to woo you guys either

FEMA response to hurricane Maria was a huge kick in the balls but the local statehood party has also been rocked with scandal after scandal.  

 

I find it extremely difficult that P.R. can become a state without a 2/3 backing both on the island and in the U.S.  It was trending that way 20 years ago but is very clearly not trending that way now.

1 hour ago, Gannan said:

Well DC statehood is unconstitutional so its basically a non starter. PR is at least theoretically possible. 

@EaglesRocker97 @Gannan How can you be so sure Washington DC cannot become a state?  The area that contains the Capitol, White House, National Mall, and some other government buildings will be the Federal District as outlined in the US Constitution. The rest of the city becomes the state of Washington DC. A part of DC was already given back to the state of Virginia, so there is precedent to partition the District. The residents of Washington DC deserve self-governance.

5 minutes ago, toolg said:

@EaglesRocker97 @Gannan How can you be so sure Washington DC cannot become a state?  The area that contains the Capitol, White House, National Mall, and some other government buildings will be the Federal District as outlined in the US Constitution. The rest of the city becomes the state of Washington DC. A part of DC was already given back to the state of Virginia, so there is precedent to partition the District. The residents of Washington DC deserve self-governance.

Aren't the metro parts outside of that 100-square mile area considered parts of MD and VA? Very few people live in the actual District.

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Aren't the metro parts outside of that 100-square mile area considered parts of MD and VA? Very few people live in the actual District.

700,000+ people live in the District of Columbia. It is a living, working city. More people live there than the state of Wyoming. Originally DC was surveyed 10 miles x 10 miles square = 100 sq. miles. The area across the Potomac, roughly south west of the Capitol, was partitioned and returned to state of Virginia. It is now Arlington, VA. The rest of DC remains the District of Columbia = about 68 sq. mi. You are correct the metro area outside of the DC square, roughly north and east, belong to the state of Maryland. But the 700,000 or so people who live in DC are under jurisdiction of Congress, but have no direct representation in Congress.

 

5 minutes ago, toolg said:

More people live there than the state of Wyoming.

Vermont also

7 minutes ago, toolg said:

700,000+ people live in the District of Columbia. It is a living, working city. More people live there than the state of Wyoming. Originally DC was surveyed 10 miles x 10 miles square = 100 sq. miles. The area across the Potomac, roughly south west of the Capitol, was partitioned and returned to state of Virginia. It is now Arlington, VA. The rest of DC remains the District of Columbia = about 68 sq. mi. You are correct the metro area outside of the DC square, roughly north and east, belong to the state of Maryland. But the 700,000 or so people who live in DC are under jurisdiction of Congress, but have no direct representation in Congress.

 

Ok, but my point would pertain to that 10x10 mile area. The Constitution explicitly gives Congress the right to create a "Federal District." Most Federal judges are likely to argue that the use of the term "District" was intentional. If they wanted to leave open the possibility of statehood, it would've been clear in the wording. The fact is, they didn't. The Federalist Papers makes it clear that they envisioned it as neutral, non-voting district. Now, you certainly can argue that that's undemocratic. My only point is that the measure will fail without an amendment.

Just now, EaglesRocker97 said:

Ok, but my point would pertaain to that 10x10 mile area. The Constitution explicitly Congress the right to create a Federal District. Most Federal judges are likely to argue that the use of the term "District" was intentional. If they wanted to leave open the possibility of statehood, it would've been clear in the wording. The fact is, they didn't. The Federalist Papers makes it clear that they envisioned it as neutral, non-voting district. Now, you certainly can argue that that's undemocratic. My only point is that the measure will fail without an amendment.

Under the bill passed in the House, the area that contains the Capitol, White House, National Mall, and Federal Government buildings becomes the Federal District. The rest of the city becomes the state of Washington DC. As I said before, Washington DC is no longer a 10x10 mile square because part of it was already returned to Virginia. I do not think an Amendment is required, as the Federal District will remain. Only it will be a much smaller area than it is currently.

7 minutes ago, toolg said:

Under the bill passed in the House, the area that contains the Capitol, White House, National Mall, and Federal Government buildings becomes the Federal District. The rest of the city becomes the state of Washington DC. As I said before, Washington DC is no longer a 10x10 mile square because part of it was already returned to Virginia. I do not think an Amendment is required, as the Federal District will remain. Only it will be a much smaller area than it is currently.

Ok, so this is basically accurate. They could only go so far as to reduce the size of the District but not make the District itself a state.

9 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Ok, so this is basically accurate. They could only go so far as to reduce the size of the District but not make the District itself a state.

Yes. That’s it. 

1 hour ago, toolg said:

@EaglesRocker97 @Gannan How can you be so sure Washington DC cannot become a state?  The area that contains the Capitol, White House, National Mall, and some other government buildings will be the Federal District as outlined in the US Constitution. The rest of the city becomes the state of Washington DC. A part of DC was already given back to the state of Virginia, so there is precedent to partition the District. The residents of Washington DC deserve self-governance.

Hmmmm. I guess that could work. I’d have to read the logistics of it. I think it could get a little dicey when it comes to how the district is using public utilities, water, etc that under the jurisdiction of the state.