July 8, 20242 yr Just now, DrPhilly said: He’s said it about 10x now in 10 different places. They aren’t accepting it at this point. Then I guess it's time for a bloodless coup! Lock and Load! Staring into the abyss!
July 8, 20242 yr 4 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: he's not dropping out. he just called into morning mika ( ) and said as much. I was assured he would be out at the end of last week. Surely there has been some kind of mistake.
July 8, 20242 yr 3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: He’s said it about 10x now in 10 different places. They aren’t accepting it at this point. the morning mika call makes it ***official***.
July 8, 20242 yr Just now, jsdarkstar said: The Grass Roots support Biden. Is that like a cover band of the The Roots, but whiter?
July 8, 20242 yr Just now, mr_hunt said: the morning mike call makes it ***official***. Let’s see if Schiff and the others accept it. Not looking like it to me. They seem to be just repeating that Biden should keep "considering” and waiting for him to reach a different conclusion.
July 8, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: He just played one of the few cards he had left in his hand. This will make it challenging to replace him from a messaging standpoint. It's setting up to be a case of self-sabotage if they push him out now for Harris or anyone else. I'm sorry, but this just comes off as pop pop refusing to go to the nursing home and insisting he can still drive.
July 8, 20242 yr 17 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Let’s see if Schiff and the others accept it. Not looking like it to me. They seem to be just repeating that Biden should keep "considering” and waiting for him to reach a different conclusion. Biden is taking a really big gamble. If Democrats lose in November and Trump gets back into power, Biden will be remembered in history as the senile old goof who stubbornly refused to do what was best for his country and step aside. He'll be 82 years-old on November 20 and, IMO, it's an absurdity he's running for re-election. Say what you want about polling numbers, but polls have been very consistent for a long time that a vast majority of the electorate thinks he's too old to run. Democrats have waited far too long to start listening to their voters, and there's very little enthusiasm right now for Biden at the top of the ticket. Biden running for a second term in office never should have been part of the calculus.
July 8, 20242 yr Just now, Gannan said: I'm sorry, but this just comes off as pop pop refusing to go to the nursing home and insisting he can still drive. To a degree, sure, but the most reliable voting bloc are comprised of old people who bristle at the thought that they'll be in a similar position themselves. And for those who are really pining for a Harris presidency, voting for Biden is still more or less a vote for Harris. Or at least that's the way I see it. If during the next four years, he's genuinely no longer able to do the job due to a legit medical issue, then Harris is waiting in the wings to take over anyhow.
July 8, 20242 yr 4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said: Biden is taking a really big gamble. If Democrats lose in November and Trump gets back into power, Biden will be remembered in history as the senile old goof who stubbornly refused to do what was best for his country and step aside. He'll be 82 years-old on November 20 and, IMO, it's an absurdity he's running for re-election. Say what you want about polling numbers, but polls have been very consistent for a long time that a vast majority of the electorate thinks he's too old to run. Democrats have waited far too long to start listening to their voters, and there's very little enthusiasm right now for Biden at the top of the ticket. Biden running for a second term in office never should have been part of the calculus. Hard to disagree with any of this. But I think it's a huge gamble either way.
July 8, 20242 yr 17 minutes ago, Alphagrand said: Biden is taking a really big gamble. If Democrats lose in November and Trump gets back into power, Biden will be remembered in history as the senile old goof who stubbornly refused to do what was best for his country and step aside. He'll be 82 years-old on November 20 and, IMO, it's an absurdity he's running for re-election. Say what you want about polling numbers, but polls have been very consistent for a long time that a vast majority of the electorate thinks he's too old to run. Democrats have waited far too long to start listening to their voters, and there's very little enthusiasm right now for Biden at the top of the ticket. Biden running for a second term in office never should have been part of the calculus. I agree to all of that and as of right now they can't win with Biden imho. They will be rolling the dice no matter so in my mind their best chance is to take away his keys and let someone else drive. All of the "experts" I've read say "he will be the last to identify and acknowledge the seriousness of his personal issues".
July 8, 20242 yr 57 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: he's not dropping out. he just called into morning mika ( ) and said as much. This MF'er spittin...
July 8, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: To a degree, sure, but the most reliable voting bloc are comprised of old people who bristle at the thought that they'll be in a similar position themselves. And for those who are really pining for a Harris presidency, voting for Biden is still more or less a vote for Harris. Or at least that's the way I see it. If during the next four years, he's genuinely no longer able to do the job due to a legit medical issue, then Harris is waiting in the wings to take over anyhow. Oh yeah, there's no way he can finish his 2nd term if he were to win. I just want to win. I want the best chance to win, which in my opinion isn't him. He's also playing a dangerous game with his legacy. If he stays in and loses, he will forever be known as the stubborn old guy who gave the country away to Trump and project 2025.
July 8, 20242 yr Sad to see some of you haven't progressed past the denial stage of grief. Derp it's just a stutter: This is who you want making critical decisions for our country. At least move on to the anger stage where you're mad at how duped you were, thinking this guy can form a rational thought about policy
July 8, 20242 yr 5 minutes ago, Gannan said: Oh yeah, there's no way he can finish his 2nd term if he were to win. I just want to win. I want the best chance to win, which in my opinion isn't him. He's also playing a dangerous game with his legacy. If he stays in and loses, he will forever be known as the stubborn old guy who gave the country away to Trump and project 2025. Exactly my feelings
July 8, 20242 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: At least move on to the anger stage where you're mad at how duped you were People in here have been telling you that for years and yet here we are...
July 8, 20242 yr 6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: At least move on to the anger stage where you're mad at how duped you were Just over a year ago... On 5/3/2023 at 10:10 AM, Mike31mt said: What is your point? Trump has infinitely more political baggage than DeSantis so one of you please explain to me how DeSantis is "DOA" but Trump is the favorite.
July 8, 20242 yr he looked & sounded horrible during the debate...and it wasn't just a typical bad debate performance or a bad 90 minutes like some are trying to spin. it was sad to watch. i definitely think he should drop out but hell yeah i'll vote for him over cheeto if he doesn't. i'll vote for anyone over cheeto.
July 8, 20242 yr 16 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: This is who you want making critical decisions for our country. At least move on to the anger stage where you're mad at how duped you were, thinking this guy can form a rational thought about policy This is such a hilarious statement coming from you.
July 8, 20242 yr 21 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Sad to see some of you haven't progressed past the denial stage of grief. Derp it's just a stutter: This is who you want making critical decisions for our country. At least move on to the anger stage where you're mad at how duped you were, thinking this guy can form a rational thought about policy Uh yeah...no. You're unhinged as usual. Here he is 4 years ago kicking Trump's arse in debate about policy. Here he is shredding Paul Ryan. I guess you're fortunate enough not to have an elderly people you care about. They can have good days and bad days, and they can decline fast. The idea that "he was always out of his mind" is simple Biden derangement. He's always been a good debater. That's why those of us rooted in realty were shocked and saddened by what we saw.
July 8, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, Gannan said: Uh yeah...no. You're unhinged as usual. Here he is 4 years ago kicking Trump's arse in debate about policy. Here he is shredding Paul Ryan. I guess you're fortunate enough not to have an elderly people you care about. They can have good days and bad days, and they can decline fast. The idea that "he was always out of his mind" is simple Biden derangement. He's always been a good debater. That's why those of us rooted in realty were shocked and saddened by what we saw. "Here's Biden 16 years ago..." How long was it that he declined before this debate? The day before? A month before? Just admit that you ate up all the propaganda from the DNC when people pointed out Bidens obvious dementia and they tried to pretend it was actually Trump who was senile.
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