5 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

Sweat has progressed nicely and is looking like a future star. Singleton  has been getting better and better. Edwards has improved over 2 seasons. None of these guys are "there" yet, but at least they are trending in the right direction. None of them brought high expectations with them when they arrived here --- so you give them time so long as they are taking advantage of opportunities. 

I feel like we’ve been hearing about sweat for 10 years now.  He’s improved, but he’s not an every down DE and probably won’t ever be in their rush the qb by committee defense.  Way too early to talk about singleton.  He’s the only healthy lb in the roster and built like a safety but probably not a safety or a true linebacker.  Too early.  Edwards is probably the better option in terms of potential and they don’t even play him.  My guess is they don’t want the criticism is he doesn’t play to fans expectations or they just honestly don’t know what they have and how to use him.  He’s falls into the category of talent without proper coaching, and will probably thrive somewhere else in 3 years.  

3 minutes ago, judunno said:

2 scores for a good part of the game. That's not enough to go crazy with the pass. They had a number of opportunities to run the ball down the stretch before Dallas eventually broke it open.

Eagles threw it 39 times and ran it 29 times. Not as out of whack as you’re making it out to be. 

2 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

No offense, but that's just pessimism --- not fact. Optimism isn't fact either, but it doesn't make sense to paint a negative spin on something good just for the sake of feeling bad about it. 

It’s my experience from seeing it before. You can call it whatever you want, but it doesn’t mean I’m wrong. You have been defending JJAW all year, and that doesn’t mean you’re right with that optimism. 

3 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Eagles threw it 39 times and ran it 29 times. Not as out of whack as you’re making it out to be. 

Hurts did some running on called pass plays. All 9 of his carries were not called runs. Plus he was sacked. Backs accounted for 20 carries across 3 players.

9 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Could be.  I'm sure he didn't like the backflip into the end zone...and with good reason with DJax's injury history. 

That said, he puts himself in a pretty bad predicament if he ends up losing the game when the deep ball to Jackson clearly was working....which is exactly what ended up happening.  Hopefully this loss doesn't end up costing him his job...or he might be second guessing that one. 

 

 

The reason hurts had some much time early was desean opening things up and forcing more guys into coverage.  The second he scored and never touched the field again, hurts began getting pressured and Dallas brought more blitzes.  If doug benched him purposely which I truly believe that’s what happened then he played right into Dallas hands.  And he should be fired for it. 

6 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Singleton looks to be the real deal.  His PFF pass rush grade is among the top 10 in the entire NFL.  He's also top 30ish out of all NFL linebackers against the run.  Solid find and a keeper, imo. 

Yeah I think I want to see them both stay healthy and consistent before I’m ready to call Singleton or Edwards legit. I do think they both were pleasant surprised, but Boston Scott was a pleasant surprise last year too. Things can change. 

2 minutes ago, DBW said:

I feel like we’ve been hearing about sweat for 10 years now.  He’s improved, but he’s not an every down DE and probably won’t ever be in their rush the qb by committee defense.  Way too early to talk about singleton.  He’s the only healthy lb in the roster and built like a safety but probably not a safety or a true linebacker.  Too early.  Edwards is probably the better option in terms of potential and they don’t even play him.  My guess is they don’t want the criticism is he doesn’t play to fans expectations or they just honestly don’t know what they have and how to use him.  He’s falls into the category of talent without proper coaching, and will probably thrive somewhere else in 3 years.  

As a rookie, Sweat was a good pass rusher with a lot to learn. Last year he added weight and improved technique. This year he showed improvement as a run defender as well. He's ready to take on a starting role if needed. Sure, his knee will always be a question, but it has held up so far. It's not like he's been Buckhalter out there. 

3 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

You have been defending JJAW all year, and that doesn’t mean you’re right with that optimism. 

Have I? Or do you guys just keep bringing it up? 

6 minutes ago, judunno said:

Hurts did some running on called pass plays. All 9 of his carries were not called runs. Plus he was sacked. Backs accounted for 20 carries across 3 players.

Hurts rushes are still rushes. He only had 9 today and three were sacks. He had arguable the same amount of scrambles as rushes. I’d have to go back and look at it, but still you’re talking about at most a 3-6 run pas difference. Again that’s not as outlandish as you’re making it out to be. It’s pretty par for the league with teams behind in games. 

Just now, brkmsn said:

Have I? Or do you guys just keep bringing it up? 

You have, but it’s a lot harder to Do when your guy isn’t even dressing anymore.

5 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Yeah I think I want to see them both stay healthy and consistent before I’m ready to call Singleton or Edwards legit. I do think they both were pleasant surprised, but Boston Scott was a pleasant surprise last year too. Things can change. 

What changed with Scott? He's averaging 4.8 ypc this season.

3 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Hurts rushes are still rushes. He only had 9 today and three were sacks. He had arguable the same amount of scrambles as rushes. I’d have to go back and look at it, but still you’re talking about at most a 3-6 run pas difference. Again that’s not as outlandish as you’re making it out to be. It’s pretty par for the league with teams behind in games. 

You have. 

I wouldn't call an improvised run by a QB committing to the run game. If you're sitting here trying to tell me we committed to the run today and we were more balanced  than it seemed, we can just stop arguing now., Guarantee you he dropped back to pass close to 50 times today.

1 hour ago, Swoop said:

We know Jags go Lawrence.

Jets probably go Fields

Miami probably goes Sewell to protect Tua.

I have no idea what Atlanta does.

We probably end up 5th, assuming we lose next week....so...?

 

 

Fields hasn't played well this year.  Many holes in his game exposed.  He is a candidate to fall long and hard in the 1st round

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

You have, but it’s a lot harder to Do when your guy isn’t even dressing anymore.

Nope --- you guys just believe in the strawmen you create. 

I mean, honestly, it's funny to me how simply not calling a player a bust turns that player into "my guy" and somehow that means I think the player is "so great." 

1 minute ago, brkmsn said:

What changed with Scott? He's averaging 4.8 ypc this season.

Maybe it’s mostly the returns that have annoyed me so much, but i don’t feel like he’s been as good of a receiver in the backfield this year or as much of a big play threat this year. 

2 minutes ago, judunno said:

I wouldn't call an improvised run by a QB committing to the run game. If you're sitting here trying to tell me we committed to the run today and we were more balanced  than it seemed, we can just stop arguing now., Guarantee you he dropped back to pass close to 50 times today.

Dude the former skins dropped back 50 times with two horrible quarterbacks this week. It happens all the time 

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

Maybe it’s mostly the returns that have annoyed me so much, but i don’t feel like he’s been as good of a receiver in the backfield this year or as much of a big play threat this year. 

Lack of opportunities. 

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

Maybe it’s mostly the returns that have annoyed me so much, but i don’t feel like he’s been as good of a receiver in the backfield this year or as much of a big play threat this year. 

I do think he was miscast as a KR, but I thought Scott filled in nicely for Sanders when needed and he did have a huge, clutch game winning catch for us this year.

1 minute ago, brkmsn said:

Nope --- you guys just believe in the strawmen you create. 

I mean, honestly, it's funny to me how simply not calling a player a bust turns that player into "my guy" and somehow that means I think the player is "so great." 

Because you’re the only guy there posting videos of the guy running routes and doing nothing else. 😂🤣😂

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

Dude the former skins dropped back 50 times with two horrible quarterbacks this week. It happens all the time 

Point is it shouldn't.... when you're playing the WORST rush defense in the league. Do you not see the flaw in that? I can see if you're down 4 scores early in the game or something but that wasn't the case.

1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

Might be being generous with 8 bud. It’s a real bad roster that is in terrible cap condition, but Howie’s coming back for some reason. 

With Howie picking the players we're looking at 3-5 wins a year for the foreseeable future.

Exactly Howie now has to draft his way out of this? Yea right!!

1 minute ago, brkmsn said:

I do think he was miscast as a KR, but I thought Scott filled in nicely for Sanders when needed and he did have a huge, clutch game winning catch for us this year.

I don’t think he’s a bad player, but there’s no way that I would consider him as some kind of starter type and he’s not a kick returner. Getting back to Singleton and Edwards who both have been a nice surprise this year I still don’t believe the Eagles have fixed this problem. I hope you’re all right they did though. 

4 minutes ago, judunno said:

Lack of opportunities. 

Well you’re right cause we have been down in almost every game this season. 😂

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

Because you’re the only guy there posting videos of the guy running routes and doing nothing else. 😂🤣😂

I posted (while JJAW discussion was relevant) videos from last year for the purpose of countering certain arguments, refuting the notion that he couldn't get separation or get open. That never meant, nor did I ever suggest, he was great. Only your strawman ever made that claim. 

In the NFL, sometimes a player doesn't work out with a team for whatever reason. Maybe that will be it for his career (like Todd Pinkston) or maybe he finds a home on another team and contributes for a decade (like Ed McCaffrey). Regarding JJAW, it doesn't look like it will happen here for him. He is still here for now, so ... that might change. We all agree it seems unlikely at this point. 

4 minutes ago, judunno said:

Point is it shouldn't.... when you're playing the WORST rush defense in the league. Do you not see the flaw in that? I can see if you're down 4 scores early in the game or something but that wasn't the case.

It’s a game against your opponent and the clock too bud. You have to score to come back into the game. Running the ball eats up more time than passing does. On top of that holding calls on run plays are just drive killers. Cleveland threw the ball 53 times against the Jets and only lost by seven.