i think Kary Vincent Jr is being slept on

19 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Trades are not completed before they need to be cap compliant.  

Yep, but one of those trades could be used after the league year starts to get the necessary 6-8 million dollars needed to sign draft picks.

Actually, just looked at cap hits for the picks last year, we are looking at a 5-6 million cap number for the player we select 6th.  So we are going to need 8-9 million to sign draft picks.

Trading down seems more likely now, cap implications of it may be a huge factor in the decision.

I call this draft the @justrelax special...

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18.

Rashawn Slater

OT Northwestern

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  36.
  Wyatt Davis

  OG Ohio State
  
•  
  37.
  Tyson Campbell

  CB Georgia
   
• 50.
  Terrace Marshall Jr.

  WR LSU
  
• 70.
  Josh Myers

  OC Ohio State
   
• 84.
  Kenneth Gainwell

  RB Memphis
   
• 151.
  Richard LeCounte

  S Georgia
   
• 157.
  Kary Vincent Jr.

  CB LSU
   
• 191.
  Anthony Schwartz

  WR Auburn
   
• 220.
  Briley Moore

  TE Kansas State
   
• 232.
  Paddy Fisher

  LB Northwestern

 

51 minutes ago, greend said:

Barnett will probably restructure, no?

You can extend him. He's not going to restructure/take a paycut.

11 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Or... crazy thought, he could give out good contracts to good players.   Just a thought.

The problem is they knew this year was coming before signing Malik Jackson or Alshon.  

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Yep, but one of those trades could be used after the league year starts to get the necessary 6-8 million dollars needed to sign draft picks.

Actually, just looked at cap hits for the picks last year, we are looking at a 5-6 million cap number for the player we select 6th.  So we are going to need 8-9 million to sign draft picks.

Trading down seems more likely now, cap implications of it may be a huge factor in the decision.

I don't think the cap space is going to influence whether they trade down.  

So he's just going to ruin future years to get out of the mess he created. Great

How is he still employed?

Russell Wilson has a no-trade clause, so the team selection matters.

26 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Or... crazy thought, he could give out good contracts to good players.   Just a thought.

There's a limited supply each year of players who fit, who are the right age, and who have reasonable salary demands.

That's why you don't build through free agency, rather, you're opportunistic, signing only those who are good bets.

8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

So he's just going to ruin future years to get out of the mess he created. Great

How is he still employed?

Ruin what season? We'll have cap room in 2022, oddles of cap room in 2023 when Howie will want to start signing free agents (so their best seasons will be when the young players are peaking).

8 minutes ago, RLC said:

Russell Wilson has a no-trade clause, so the team selection matters.

Anyone know when 2021 comp picks will be announced ??  Usually it is early March, have not seen a date.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Who said it would just be the Eagles?   The Saints are in worse shape than the Eagles, even with Brees out of the picture.

But, they could get compliant easily with a few other moves... like trading/extending Slay, Hargrave... Trading/cutting Ertz... extending Barnett/Seumalo, etc. They can also push a bunch of Cox's $15M salary for 2021, into a signing bonus... freeing up about $10-$12M... depending on how they choose to do it. 

 

I just don't see them able to do it before the first day of the league year... because a trade isn't official until then anyway.   So, once some of these trades are official, the team would be under the cap, same with the freeing up of money with June 1 moves.... the money isn't available until June 1, but the team would be 'under' the cap eventually.

Maybe I misinterpreted it.

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So, I think the goal is to get the number down to within Wentz' number of the current cap, and then throw themselves on the mercy of the court, so to speak, and argue that they are only over by 1 contract, which they have since 'canceled' so to speak.

But anyway, they are going to have to get under, and its not going to be pretty. They will probably have to restructure and extend Cox, or at the least add another dummy year or two on there. Same thing with other players. Graham, Johnson, Hargrave, Brooks + doing something with Barnett + whatever you do with Ertz gets them under with some money to sign some cheap vets. They just have to do it, they don't have a choice. You can't be over the cap. 
 

I said it before, trading Wentz severely affects their cap situation and not just the dead money. He was THE guy they were banking on restricting this offseason and that’s off the table. 

20 minutes ago, RLC said:

Russell Wilson has a no-trade clause, so the team selection matters.

Why don't they just fix the Oline? Unless things are going behind the scenes

I would hate it if he went to Dallas or Saints. Though I don't think Saints have the money

Bears may go all in

Have Raiders given up on Carr?

2 hours ago, downundermike said:

Not sure what the heck he is talking about.  All the posts clearly talk about cutting/trading those players.

Looks like he's had 404 posts.  I think I remember 1 that made any sense.  We have a total crackpot on our hands, and I actually find it pretty amusing.  

   

2 hours ago, Don Corleone said:

Good to see you as well, JR

43 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Yep, but one of those trades could be used after the league year starts to get the necessary 6-8 million dollars needed to sign draft picks.

Actually, just looked at cap hits for the picks last year, we are looking at a 5-6 million cap number for the player we select 6th.  So we are going to need 8-9 million to sign draft picks.

Trading down seems more likely now, cap implications of it may be a huge factor in the decision.

You have to remember with the top 51 rule not all those picks are going to count against the cap and the ones that do will push someone else off. It should be about $5 to $6M to sign all the rookies as is. 

34 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

So he's just going to ruin future years to get out of the mess he created. Great

How is he still employed?

Basically. It's not going to be ripping off a band aid like the Eagles and others suggest. More like a scab that eventually heals over time

31 minutes ago, RLC said:

Russell Wilson has a no-trade clause, so the team selection matters.

Cowboys? Russell Wilson is a dick

37 minutes ago, RLC said:

Russell Wilson has a no-trade clause, so the team selection matters.

The cherry on top to this horrific season/offseason will be if either DeShaun Watson or Russell Wilson gets traded to the Cowboys.  I honestly hope they franchise Dak soon or sign him to a new deal.  

35 minutes ago, RLC said:

Russell Wilson has a no-trade clause, so the team selection matters.

 

 

Bears??? 

1 minute ago, hputenis said:

The cherry on top to this horrific season/offseason will be in either DeShaun Watson or Russell Wilson gets traded to the Cowboys.  I honestly hope they franchise Dak soon or sign him to a new deal.  

I don't get why anyone would want to play for Dallas. Jerry Jones is a dewsh bag

Cowboys trading Dak for Wilson would be a mistake. Wilson is 5 years older and Dallas would have to give up extra compensation. 

Just now, greend said:

I don't get why anyone would want to play for Dallas. Jerry Jones is a dewsh bag

Very talented offense, top class facilities, no income taxes, and one of the most popular franchises in sports. 

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

You have to remember with the top 51 rule not all those picks are going to count against the cap and the ones that do will push someone else off. It should be about $5 to $6M to sign all the rookies as is. 

It will be 5 plus million just for #6, so it will be north of 7 million, closer to 8.  Will run the numbers at lunch.

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Cowboys trading Dak for Wilson would be a mistake. Wilson is 5 years older and Dallas would have to give up extra compensation. 

Not seeing the problem with Dallas having to use draft resources to trade for an older QB with a huge cap number.

3 hours ago, devpool said:

If Sewell gets to us and we don't take him I would imagine some team might want to trade up for him. If we take sewell they can sell dillard in camp if someone loses a tackle 

Why can't we move Sewell to LG, Mailata stays at LT, Isaac is basically the super sub 6th o-lineman...